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There's still some bad blood between Elon Musk and Henrik Fisker

Just a few hours ago, Fisker Automotive announced that it was able to determine the cause of the latest fire that destroyed a Karma hybrid/electric sedan. Now, we’ve learned that Tesla Motors/Space X CEO Elon Musk is jumping into the fray to kick Fisker Automotive while it’s down in an interview with Automobile Magazine. It should be noted, however, that Musk and Fisker Automotive founder Henrik Fisker have a rocky past (read this article for some background information).
 
Musk was somewhat diplomatic when talking about the Karma’s styling, noting, “It looks good. Particularly from the side it looks good. I don’t love the front. It looks too much like a caricature of a Mexican Bandito—the grille.”

But the emphasis on over-the-top styling lead to one of Musk’s main criticisms of Henrik Fisker and the Karma sedan. “The fundamental problem with Henrik Fisker — he is a designer or stylist… he thinks the reason we don’t have electric cars is for lack of styling. This is not the reason. It’s fundamentally a technology problem."
 
In other words, the Karma is all style with little substance.


Henrik Fisker and the Fisker Karma [Image Source: Car and Driver]
 
Musk goes on to state that the voluptuous bodylines of the Karma make for an oddly packaged vehicle. For example, despite the fact that Karma weighs as much as a full-size SUV (5,300 lbs) and is nearly 200" long, it has very little cargo capacity and can only seat four people.
 
Although Musk doesn't allude to the Model S in this section of the Automobile Magazine interview, the Model S is faster, features both a front and rear trunk, and can seat five people in its base configuration. The Model S can also seat up to seven with optional rear-facing jump seats installed in the cargo hold (Elon Musk has five children and wanted to be able to transport them all in the Model S).
 
Musk also took Fisker to task over outsourcing much of the development of the Karma to other companies (most of the development for the Model S was done in-house). "He outsourced the engineering and manufacturing. But the fact is…that’s the crux of the problem. And he’s outsourcing to people who don’t know how to solve the problem."


Elon Musk and the Tesla Model S [Image Source: AutoEvolution]
 
Given the two reported fires involving the Fisker Karma (including the most recent fire which was caused by a third-party supplier's cooling fan) along with the recall and replacement of battery packs, we're sure that Musk is probably patting himself on the back.
 
To sum up his thoughts on the Karma, Musk proclaimed that the vehicle is "a mediocre product at a high price." The Fisker Karma starts at $95,900 while the entry-level Model S starts at $57,500 and can hit $105,400 for the "Signature Performance" version.

Sources: Automobile Magazine, Autoblog Green



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RE: Nailed it
By Reclaimer77 on 8/20/2012 9:04:35 AM , Rating: 2
Man you're ridiculous. If I was in the market for a Tesla, I would sure want to know that driving it hard would mean the motor could overheat and the mileage goes to nothing. I've driven my car hard many times, and the engine never quit on me!

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Yes, the cars both lost charge in 50 miles, far from their rated milage, but they had the crap beaten out of them


They routinely beat the crap out of ICE cars, and I can't remember a new sports car's engine dying on them like the Tesla's.

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To the point...what they did to the Tesla Roadster was politically charged (very anti-forward thinking) by falsifying many of the failures, especially the regenerative braking system 'overheating'.


This is simply false. The failure in the brakes would have required taking the Tesla in for servicing. In my mind, broken means broken. The claim that Top Gear falsified anything is a joke, and that's why Musk was thrown out of court for making this claim not once, but twice.

Take your Liberal "forward thinking" nonsense and shove it. The Tesla Roadster is a giant step backwards for car enthusiasts, which makes up Top Gear's main audience. Is not having to buy guys worth all that? It's up for others to decide, but nothing is wrong with being better informed.

By the way, if the car was so damned great, explain to me why it was cancelled?


RE: Nailed it
By wordsworm on 8/20/2012 8:18:52 PM , Rating: 2
You could always do what liberals do and do a little research on your own rather than requiring others to do your research for you.

You know, if you run a Bugatti at its top speed of 400km/h, you'll get it about 50km before having to replace its tires. That's what happens when you push a sports car to its limit. Things wear down fast, they break.


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