Tesla's Elon Musk Dumps on Fisker, Calls Karma a "Mediocre Car at a High Price"
August 18, 2012 8:04 PM
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There's still some bad blood between Elon Musk and Henrik Fisker
Just a few hours ago, Fisker Automotive announced that it
was able to determine the cause of the latest fire
that destroyed a Karma hybrid/electric sedan. Now, we’ve learned that Tesla Motors/
CEO Elon Musk is jumping into the fray to kick Fisker Automotive while it’s down in an interview with
. It should be noted, however, that Musk and Fisker Automotive founder Henrik Fisker have a rocky past (
read this article
for some background information).
Musk was somewhat diplomatic when talking about the Karma’s styling, noting, “It looks good. Particularly from the side it looks good. I don’t love the front. It looks too much like a caricature of a Mexican Bandito—the grille.”
But the emphasis on over-the-top styling lead to one of Musk’s main criticisms of Henrik Fisker and the Karma sedan. “The fundamental problem with Henrik Fisker — he is a designer or stylist… he thinks the reason we don’t have electric cars is for lack of styling. This is not the reason. It’s fundamentally a technology problem."
In other words, the Karma is all style with little substance.
Henrik Fisker and the Fisker Karma [Image Source: Car and Driver]
Musk goes on to state that the voluptuous bodylines of the Karma make for an oddly packaged vehicle. For example, despite the fact that Karma weighs as much as a full-size SUV (5,300 lbs) and is nearly 200" long, it has very little cargo capacity and can only seat four people.
Although Musk doesn't allude to the Model S in this section of the
Model S is faster
, features both a front and rear trunk, and can seat five people in its base configuration. The Model S can also seat up to seven with optional rear-facing jump seats installed in the cargo hold (Elon Musk has five children and
wanted to be able to transport them all in the Model S
Musk also took Fisker to task over outsourcing much of the development of the Karma to other companies (most of the development for the Model S was done in-house). "He outsourced the engineering and manufacturing. But the fact is…that’s the crux of the problem. And he’s outsourcing to people who don’t know how to solve the problem."
Elon Musk and the Tesla Model S [Image Source: AutoEvolution]
Given the two reported fires involving the Fisker Karma (including the
most recent fire which
was caused by a third-party supplier's cooling fan) along with the
replacement of battery packs
, we're sure that Musk is probably patting himself on the back.
To sum up his thoughts on the Karma, Musk proclaimed that the vehicle is "a mediocre product at a high price." The Fisker Karma starts at $95,900 while the entry-level Model S starts at
and can hit
for the "Signature Performance" version.
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RE: Nailed it
8/19/2012 10:50:53 PM
What's with the compulsion to be an apologist for Musk? Come on now, it's getting old.
RE: Nailed it
8/20/2012 11:51:23 AM
There's a difference between defending what somebody said based on the content, and pointing out "Hey, they never said the stuff you're criticizing them for saying."
You made up a quote, you got called on it. Move on.
RE: Nailed it
8/20/2012 11:57:37 AM
He said Mexican "something". Okay I got the quote a little wrong, so-fucking-what?
The point is he slammed his opponents product in a very untasteful manner. YOU move on!
And why is it a bad thing if something looks Mexican? So Mexicans are automatically bad? Lilly white racist from South Africa = Elon Musk.
RE: Nailed it
8/20/2012 1:34:39 PM
You off your meds today or something? You're positively perspiring olive oil.
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