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As with Motorola case, Apple is starting to get on the judge's nerves in its case against Samsung

Like a boss, Apple, Inc. (AAPL) went out and poured money into recruiting top tier legal representation to sue its rivals.  In U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California, this synergy seemed on the verge of succeeding after Apple's lawyers micromanaged to exclude certain high profile pieces of evidence from rival Samsung Electronics Comp., Ltd. (KSC:005930), while allowing its own star exhibits.  But it appears that yet again Apple is brushing off on its attorneys, as they've found a way annoy yet another judge.

After enduring the seeming harassment of a 75-page briefing requesting 22 rebuttal witnesses for next week, presiding Judge Lucy Koh changed her tone, no longer looking to give Apple any courtroom promotion.  In fact the filing had Judge Koh inquiring whether Apple attorneys had been busy scoring some coke.

She asked Apple why they would present her the document "when unless you're smoking crack you know these witnesses aren't going to be called!"

But Apple attorney William Lee insists that he wasn't looking for the free crack giveway, commenting, "First, your honor, I'm not smoking crack. I can promise you that."

He argued that a couple of the witnesses on his lists were Samsung's.  As Samsung and Apple's legal teams then fell into a noisy legal argument, she exclaimed, according to a courtroom reporter for The Verge, "I'm billing time because you all are being unreasonable."

Judge Koh had already pushed both sides to cut down on the time of their arguments, saying the court could not devote itself to being a full-time Apple v. Samsung court.  Apple tested the waters last week, asking Judge Koh to allow a rebuttal witness, designer Susan Kare, after its early design witnesses had struggled under cross-examination.

Judge Koh
Judge Koh has grown increasingly frustrated with Apple's attorneys during the lawsuit against Samsung. [Image Source: IB Times]

But Apple said Ms. Kare couldn't return to court until next week due to "family matters".

Irritated, Judge Koh told Apple's team that unless Ms. Kare could come this week, she wouldn't be coming at all.  But Apple's lawyers apparently couldn't take the hint, requesting  even more witnesses for next week on Thursday.

That kind of belligerent filings and judicial frustrations strikes eerily similar to that encountered in the case against Google Inc. (GOOG) subsidiary Motorola which Apple presented to Judge Richard A. Posner, a Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals judge moonlighting in the U.S. District Court, Northern District of Illinois (Chicago).

Judge Posner initially seemed inclined to listen to Apple's infringement claims, but after Apple insisted on appealing every single decision -- even its own victories -- with a slew of junk filings, his sentiments shifted sharply.  With both sides quibbling and unable to reach a settlement, he decided the best course of action was to toss out both sides' cases.  He dismissed the lawsuits "with prejudice".

As Judge Koh experiences a similar "eye opening" experience regarding Apple legal's policy of irritating filings, one has to wonder whether Apple v. Samsung might face a similar fate.

Source: The Verge

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RE: The Only People Apple Pisses Off
By macdevdude on 8/17/2012 12:43:25 PM , Rating: -1
P.S. *whispers* He's dead!
Can we at least agree to be respectful and leave Steve Jobs out of this?

You wouldn't talk a bunch of trash about Albert Einstein would you? Respect the dead, esp. the ones who changed the world for the better.

RE: The Only People Apple Pisses Off
By amanojaku on 8/17/2012 12:49:14 PM , Rating: 3
Jobs != Einstein!!!

More accurately,

Einstein > Jobs

Jobs didn't change the world for the better, he just sold stuff. Hell, the guy isn't even known for being a big supporter of philanthropic work. And most people who knew him even a little hated him. Einstein had no detractors.

RE: The Only People Apple Pisses Off
By macdevdude on 8/17/12, Rating: -1
By Cheesew1z69 on 8/17/2012 2:06:08 PM , Rating: 2
He invented NONE of those....are you really this ignorant? Wait..we know the answer.. .

By momorere on 8/17/2012 2:09:37 PM , Rating: 2
I for one sure am glad that douchebag Jobs "invented" all those things you listed. Without him we wouldn't even be able to breathe. I don't wish death upon anyone but my God I'm glad that bastard is dead. You should really try and educate yourself with who invented what. Where is this time machine that Jobs "invented" and used to go back in time to create the first electronic computer back in 1948 at Manchester University ?? That is one device I'm glad other companies haven't "copied" yet.

By Cheesew1z69 on 8/17/2012 2:31:55 PM , Rating: 5
Oh, the irony...

Apple Slapped with Multitouch Patent Lawsuit posted by Thom Holwerda on Wed 31st Mar 2010 21:55 UTC IconI guess this is what some people would call "karma". Apple may shout off the rooftops that it invented multitouch, and that anyone else using it is clearly stealing it from them - but another company has taken offence to that, and has slapped the Cupertino giant with a patent infringement suit over multitouch. The company in question is Taiwanese chipmaker Elan Microelectronics, and they are suing Apple over patent no. 5,825,352, filed in February 1996, and granted in October 1998. The patent calls for a "method and apparatus for detecting an operative coupling between one or more fingers or other appropriate objects and a touch pad includes processes for detection of multiple maxima with intermediate minima in appropriate sequences to emulate the operations of cursor control and button actuations in a pointing and control device". In other words, multitouch. In 1996. More than ten years before Apple released the iPhone. "Multi-finger applications are becoming popular in smartphone and computer applications, particularly with support for multi-finger gestures integrated into the new Microsoft Windows 7 operating system," the company states, "The 352 patent is a fundamental patent to the detection of multi-fingers that allows for any subsequent multi-finger applications to be implemented." This is not some obscure patent that surfaced only recently. In 2008, Elan Microelectronics sued Synaptics over this very same patent, and the courts found that indeed, Synaptics and its products were in violation of this patent. In the end, the two companies settled the matter. Elan Microelectronics has filed a complaint with the US International Trade Commission, seeking a ban on imports of several Apple products (MacBook, iPhone, iPod Touch, Magic Mouse), including the iPad once it's released. "We have taken the step of filing the ITC complaint as a continuation of our efforts to enforce our patent rights against Apple's ongoing infringement. A proceeding in the ITC offers a quick and effective way for Elan to enforce its patent," the company said in a statement. Seeing Apple's and its followers' arrogance over multitouch, it's hard not to snicker a bit over this one. Wie kaatst kan de bal verwachten.

More irony...

Pixar John Lasseter, an employee at the Graphics Group, created 3-D short animation films to help sell their products . These short films gained so much attention that Disney and the Graphics Group (renamed Pixar) teamed up to release "Toy Story" in 1995. The film was a success and proved to cost less and take less time than producing 2-D animated films. Pixar's subsequent film releases, and those of other animation studios, proved that 3-D would be the future of animation.

Wait, more irony?

In 2000, the touchscreen Ericsson R380 Smartphone was released.[18] It was the first device to use an open operating system, the Symbian OS.[19] It was the first device marketed as a 'smartphone'.[20] It combined the functions of a mobile phone and a personal digital assistant (PDA).[21] In December 1999 the magazine Popular Science called the Ericsson R380 Smartphone one of the most important advances in science and technology.[22] It was groundbreaking in being as small and light as a normal mobile phone.[23] In 2002 it was followed up by P800.[24]

And yet, MORE....

The trackball, a related pointing device, was invented by Tom Cranston, Fred Longstaff and Kenyon Taylor working on the Royal Canadian Navy's DATAR project in 1952. It used a standard Canadian five-pin bowling ball. It was not patented, as it was a secret military project.[4] Independently, Douglas Engelbart at the Stanford Research Institute (now SRI International) invented the first mouse prototype in 1963, with the assistance of his colleague Bill English.[5] They christened the device the mouse as early models had a cord attached to the rear part of the device looking like a tail and generally resembling the common mouse.[6] Engelbart never received any royalties for it, as his patent ran out before it became widely used in personal computers.[7] The invention of the mouse was just a small part of Engelbart's much larger project, aimed at augmenting human intellect via the Augmentation Research Center.[8]

Oh, this to fun!

1936 Konrad Zuse - Z1 Computer First freely programmable computer.

Tablets? Think again!


I think that's enough history lesson for today....

Moron Troll...

By BifurcatedBoat on 8/22/2012 4:14:46 AM , Rating: 1
He didn't invent any of that. In fact, I don't think Apple has ever actually invented anything.

Apple has done a good job of taking other people's ideas and turning them into commercially successful, viable products.

I do have to give them credit for that. Even though they didn't invent smartphones, or even touchscreen smartphones, we might not have them in our pockets if not for Apple.

However, when your company's business model is based around copying other people's ideas, then to turn around and start firing off lawsuits because other companies re-copied what you copied, that's hypocritical and really, indefensible.

By retrospooty on 8/17/2012 1:00:35 PM , Rating: 4
Oh please. Jobs was a freegin Angry maniac and a total asshole to boot. People that worked at Apple when he was there would turn the other way when they saw him coming down the hall. HE regularly yelled at the top of his lings at people for no reason. Just a complete lunatic. He actually thought its OK for his company to blatantly copy others, but not for others to copy him.

RE: The Only People Apple Pisses Off
By MrBlastman on 8/17/2012 1:03:21 PM , Rating: 5
You've just insulted Albert Einstein by placing Steve Jobs in the same tier as one of the greatest minds to ever grace this planet.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Steve Jobs might have stolen ideas and provided the inspiration to create a gigantic company selling billions of dollars worth of product... but that's ALL he ever did!

Einstein, on the other hand, came up with ideas such as general and special relativity which have changed the world, permanently. His ideas are widely discussed by physicists to this day and continue to have an impact in many aspects of our lives. He won a nobel prize in physics for crying out loud! Einstein might not have been super wealthy but everything he did and stood for made mankind better due to his selfless devotion to the sciences.

Steve, on the other hand, was a ruthless profiteer that didn't (as far as most can tell) give much of anything to charity.

I'm sorry you worship currency. It is the bane and downfall of mankind... greed, that is.

RE: The Only People Apple Pisses Off
By Digimonkey on 8/17/2012 1:11:57 PM , Rating: 2
I'm confused. I thought it was evident a long time ago macdevdude was a forum troll. Why are you guys feeding it?

By MrBlastman on 8/17/2012 1:12:55 PM , Rating: 2
Sometimes they just have to be fed poison with hope they'll die and go away. :P

RE: The Only People Apple Pisses Off
By Reclaimer77 on 8/17/12, Rating: -1
RE: The Only People Apple Pisses Off
By MrBlastman on 8/17/2012 1:31:41 PM , Rating: 5
I've looked at death in the eye, fearing only weeks/days/hours to live and survived. During this period I revised my viewpoint on many things in life--including the universe, time and space, physics, priorities etc.

The one thing, in all that time that I found offered me the least amount of comfort was... money. If I had died, what good would that money have done me? If I had lived--it might have made my life easier.

But, for what? It would require sacrificing time. Time that could be better spent on things that mean something to more than just myself and the rest of the world.

Don't get me wrong--I admire philanthropers like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet who seek to give away their fortunes in the form of trusts to better society. I think that is wonderful and great--and the right thing to do.

Most people, though, who lust after money, I find sacrifice many things in their life in pursuit of it. Things such as family (children especially suffer), personal time, society, morals, ethics and so on. All for what? A shiny car (BMW, Mercedes etc.), a giant house, a big screen television. Things that supposedly make them important.

When you're dying though--none of that makes you important. Just look at Steve--he was worth billions, yet, none of it did him any good. At best it bought him a few more years but that was all. He couldn't cheat death, not for all the money he had.

I know people who have given up their hopes and dreams just to make another dollar--just to get a little richer... only to come to the end of their days with a slap to their face realizing that they never got to enjoy any of it, only to die younger than they wished for failing to take care of themselves.

I'm a capitalist and a believer in the free markets. I don't, though, think that money should be anyone's central focus in their life. Greed leads to the worst coming out in people. They kill for it, trample for it, abuse for it and even destroy for it.

This is why I look at it the way I do.

Unfortunately, to see things this way, you almost have to look death in the eye--and that is an experience I don't wish upon anyone.

RE: The Only People Apple Pisses Off
By Dug on 8/20/2012 2:32:56 PM , Rating: 2
I agree with what you say, but not all people who sacrifice things in life to get money do so just for status.

They do it so they have enough money to do the things that are important to them and to provide for their family.

Even billionaires will go to work, because that is important to them. Not necessarily to make more money, that's just an affect of what they enjoy.

Like Tosh says, "I've never seen anyone frowning on jetski"

RE: The Only People Apple Pisses Off
By bupkus on 8/17/2012 2:41:57 PM , Rating: 2
Predating our modern urban environment people lived in tribal organizations. Then, instead of the anonymous disregard for others well being, people would share their bounty or even share their small gleanings. Those who did not would be considered by all to be outcasts undeserving of partaking in someone else's turn of luck in their hunting, gathering, etc.

Yes, I understand that it was our present specializations and institutions that gave rise to populations and abundance but these systems are just a small fragment of time to our many tens if not hundreds of thousands of years on this sphere.

We have not yet perfected a system of social order that balances opportunity with social and economic systems.If we had it was swallowed up by an unproductive greed for wealth and power. We now can see the failings of capitalistic predation left unresolved and the social and political instabilities left to fester.

RE: The Only People Apple Pisses Off
By Cheesew1z69 on 8/17/2012 1:17:54 PM , Rating: 2
Einstein actually invented stuff. Steve Jobs did not. Einstein changed the world, Apple did not.

Another ignorant comment by you, as usual.

RE: The Only People Apple Pisses Off
By Cheesew1z69 on 8/17/2012 1:20:35 PM , Rating: 2
Er... well...yea, not invented stuff. Point is, he changed the world, Apple didn't.

RE: The Only People Apple Pisses Off
By Fritzr on 8/17/2012 10:45:14 PM , Rating: 2
No, in addition to the theoretical physics that Einstein is remembered for, he was also an inventor.

The refrigerator that he invented went on sale in Europe in the 1930s. His physics student Leo Szilard was co-inventor. This refrigerator is #31 on Time Magazines "Top 50 Great Inventions" list.

RE: The Only People Apple Pisses Off
By ritualm on 8/17/2012 9:24:53 PM , Rating: 2
A better comparison is

Jobs = Edison

Einstein is a bonafide genius. Jobs? A tyrant at the same level as Kim Jong-Il.

By Cheesew1z69 on 8/17/2012 10:46:20 PM , Rating: 2
I was actually thinking of Edison when I typed that

By SlyNine on 8/17/2012 2:22:23 PM , Rating: 2
Comparing Steve to Albert, common.. Fuck Steve Jobs, he's a crock and a villain!

"Death Is Very Likely The Single Best Invention Of Life" -- Steve Jobs

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