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Event data recorder (EDR) or "black box"  (Source:
The Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers wanted to push the setting of black box standards to September 2013

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) declined the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers' request to delay set standards for "black boxes" in vehicles.
The black boxes, called event data recorders (EDRs), are used in autos to record the last moments before an accident to identify its cause. Automakers have been using them for awhile now, but the NHTSA's new standards, which are to be set September 1, could force auto companies to replace their current EDRs for more expensive ones. 
The Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers, which represents automakers like Detroit's Big Three, wanted to delay the setting of EDR standards to September 2013. The group said automakers with older EDRs can meet the new regulations by disabling these older versions, but only as long as the new rules set standards for the devices -- not mandate them. 
The NHTSA rejected the request in an eight-page letter, saying that it has already cooked up some ways to help automakers comply without having to spend extra money. Besides, the new standards have already been delayed several times since the rules were finalized in August 2006. 
"The agency has made it a priority to work toward a proposed standard that would mandate these devices on all passenger vehicles on the nation's roadways," said Lynda Tran, NHTSA spokeswoman. "NHTSA remains committed to proposing a standard in the coming months that will help save lives by ensuring both automakers and the agency have the necessary data to make continued improvements in vehicle safety."
According to NHTSA, EDRs are already in 91.6 percent of vehicles today, and it would only cost about $24.4 million to boost this number to 100 percent. This is based on the sale of 15.5 million light vehicles annually. 
Back in April, the U.S. Senate passed a bill called the "Moving Ahead for Progress in the 21st Century Act," also called "MAP21." The bill aimed to place EDRs in all 2015 model year vehicles, but also had a bit of a downside -- the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) could strip Americans of their passports if they owed enough tax money. 


Source: The Detroit News

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RE: Over my dead body.
By vectorm12 on 8/15/2012 8:09:08 AM , Rating: 2
By the time it's been standardized it's most likely gonna be tied into the ECU of the engine. Which means it's not just gonna come out without modifications to the engine/drive-by-wire systems.

RE: Over my dead body.
By Nfarce on 8/15/2012 11:05:54 AM , Rating: 1
And by that time, someone will likely have created a device/program to modify the ECU that will have one of these. (In the 80s and 90s before we had laptops and custom tailored performance curve programs to tune today's cars, we called them EPROM chips and they replaced stock ECU chips - Hypertech Industries was one of the first to do so). It was one of the easiest and least expensive ways to boost 10% plus in horsepower and torque.

Now the question will be if modding tomorrow's ECU with this black box capability - altering or even removing the BB data recording capability - will void the warranty on the vehicle. That may be how the government will keep a grip on us by the short hairs. I'd seriously contemplate voiding my warranty to keep the government out of my life and where I drive. It is not a stretch to believe that one day that black box data can be used to track your miles and tax you more in some new tax plan passed in Congress and signed by the president.

RE: Over my dead body.
By donxvi on 8/15/2012 7:53:28 PM , Rating: 2
FWIW, where I work this function is handled by the airbag control module.

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