quote: The Windows Store is also the only "approved" source of Metro apps but given that this is Windows I am sure there will be easy ways to load Metro apps however you choose.
quote: I think the biggest problem Steam will have is that the Windows Store will be baked into Windows 8 and the Steam store will be completely unknown outside of gamers. How are they going to penetrate this market?
quote: I wouldn't be too sure about that. Microsoft is turning into a "Me too, Apple" more and more every day.
quote: Because by all indications Windows 8 for the PC is shaping up to be a massive flop. There's still opportunity for Steam here for sure.
quote: How so? Microsoft was selling smartphones and tablets, with its OEM partners, long before the iPad or iPhone were a twinkle in Steve Jobs' eye.
quote: Wow, you're really on to something there. That must be why BUILD 2012 sold out in an hour due to wild developer demand for Win8 apps and product. That MUST BE why OEMs were stumbling over themselves to show off all sorts of slick Windows 8 devices at Computex. And SURELY that is why the Windows 8 Release Preview reached 1 million downloads in under 24-hours... http://www.redmondpie.com/download-windows-8-relea... I mean don't those landmarks just scream "massive flop"??
quote: I'm so glad you shared your kind wisdom with us.
quote: But for you to deny the extremely vocal majority who's clearly NOT enthused about Metro as a desktop UI? Come on man.
quote: Sure Windows 8 and its Metro UI will not be pleasing to a majority of PC enthusiasts. They oft prefer barren interfaces, graphically minimalist interfaces, and the ability to fully customize everything themselves. However, these preferences run counter to the majority of users, and the enthusiast community is quite small compared to the overall base of phone, tablet, and computer users.
quote: Hence the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, but the few like to cry foul that they're not getting their way.
quote: Since when did MS catered to those people though? Look if you want something pretty and flashing and easy enough for a 4 year old to use, Apple is down the hall.
quote: It's more than that and you know it.This is unlike any Windows OS before it, because Metro is there, and the desktop is still there.
quote: Microsoft has always catered to them. Remember, when the Windows GUI was slocked on top of MS-DOS many power users felt it was a huge step backwards and emulation of Apple's 1984 MS-DOS. Similar arguments were made back then -- Microsoft was turning its back on its true fans, while trying to copy Apple's mass market appeal.
quote: I guarantee you, no matter how much you villainize Windows 8, it will be more flexible/customizable than the rigid confines of OS X.
quote: But that's what critics like yourself aren't understanding.
quote: There should be a completely seamless interaction between Metro and the Desktop, across the board
quote: I see no reason why Metro and Desktop apps, for the PC version of Windows 8, be incompatible with each other
quote: throwing the PC and mobile OS together in a big jumbled mess
quote: And the older desktop apps are not touch friendly legacy mouse/kbd software straight from your beloved era of 1990s :P
quote: It's an absurd waste of screen real estate
quote: Forcing this environment onto the Desktop PC
quote: That's not what I mean and you know it :) I'm talking about Microsoft blatantly looking to mimic Apples vertically integrated platform of tightly controlled "app stores" and in-house services bundled into the OS. And bringing this to the desktop.
quote: Microsoft isn't exactly mimicking Apple here, alone. Linux, RIM, Verizon, and others had app stores long before Apple's iTunes App Store. Were they as successful? No, of course not. But to say "Microsoft is copying Apple" even solely on the basis of its adoption of an app-distribution ecosystem is silly given the amount of predecessors to Apple's App Store.
quote: Thats right, I am specifically ignoring the third party apps that sometimes did that in the early 2000's if you prayed right and had the right phone model version and serial number because those were goddamned lame and suitable for technically literate people at best
quote: I'm talking about Microsoft blatantly looking to mimic Apples vertically integrated platform of tightly controlled "app stores" and in-house services bundled into the OS. And bringing this to the desktop.
quote: I think the upgrade price of $39.99 is a steal for such a huge upgrade in usability.
quote: I dunno man, this is first time ever I see MS seriously going to pwn Apple in usability department.
quote: Since when was Microsoft competing against Apple in the usability of desktop OS's?
quote: Ya I also laughed hard reading this Reclaimer's troll post, especially after using Win8 RTM build on my Vaio. He's just a clueless idiot who has no real experience using Win8. I think the upgrade price of $39.99 is a steal for such a huge upgrade in usability
quote: And SURELY that is why the Windows 8 Release Preview reached 1 million downloads in under 24-hours... http://www.redmondpie.com/download-windows-8-relea...
quote: Windows 8 for the PC is shaping up to be a massive flop
quote: Pirks you are and always have been, a stupid troll and person in general.
quote: If that doesn't make him a troll, he's just some kind of mentally deficient person.
quote: The point was more along the lines of how is Microsoft going to stop users from tampering with Windows and doing whatever they please?
quote: That's obviously just your opinion and I'm sure it's shared by plenty but actual indications are that Windows 8 will be a bigger success than Windows 7.
quote: I think that will really depend on how much Steam is charging to distribute these apps.
quote: With the Windows Store being built into Windows 8, Valve's Steam is going to be competing against a built-in feature of the OS.It's going to be Netscape vs. Microsoft all over again. Microsoft pretty much cornered that market before it even began.