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By tying NFC and in-app purchases together, Microsoft killed support for legacy devices

Microsoft Corp.'s (MSFT) Windows Phone 8 is fast incoming and promises to deliver more substance behind the company's already slick Metro graphical user interface.  But a key storyline has been the controversy surrounding Microsoft's decision to leave legacy device users out in the cold with no upgrade path to Windows Phone 8.  Instead, they get a partial update -- Windows Phone 7.8.

After Microsoft made that clear, much discussion has focused on which features will and won't be included in Windows Phone 7.8.  The Verge has dug up details from the Windows Phone Developer Center on the Microsoft Developer Network (MSDN), which indicate that Windows Phone 7.8 users will not get in-app purchases.

Microsoft chose to launch Windows Phone from the ground up. As a result, certain commonplace features like cut and paste were mysteriously absent at launch.  Many of those missing features were included in a series of updates -- the biggest of which was Windows Phone 7.5 "Mango".

But Mango apps still lacked in-app purchases, an essential feature for Android and iOS developers.

Rather than go for half-hearted near-field-communications (NFC) wireless payments and in-app payments, Microsoft decided to make a brand-new shiny "Wallet" hub for Windows Phone 8, which securely stores users' credit cards and allows a common payment API.

Windows Phone 8
In-app purchases are only for Windows Phone 8, not WinPhone 7.8. [Image Source: The Verge]

The bad news is that by tying NFC and in-app payments together, Microsoft essentially nixed in-app payments for legacy devices, which lack NFC.  It's still possible that the feature might creep into Windows Phone 7.8, but for now MSDN says that in-app payments will only be available for Windows Phone 8.

Sources: MSDN, The Verge

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RE: *wah*
By sigmatau on 8/7/2012 4:00:17 PM , Rating: 2
What's worse, MS letting people know that their devices have no full upgrade (but still an upgrade) or let users like yourself and your sorry GS2 wonder if and when they will get one?

I can't even believe you have the nerve to reply. Your phone became obsolete within a month of release. The US version of the GS2 came out in mid October while the Nexus with ICS came out in early November. It took Samsung over 8 months to push ICS and you still have to deal with the super horrid touchwiz.

Hypocrite much?

RE: *wah*
By Reclaimer77 on 8/7/2012 5:41:50 PM , Rating: 1
You've obviously never used a GS2, or you would never call it "sorry". To date there's still not even a Windows Phone that comes close, how sad is that?

Secondly, I'm running ICS. And guess what? It didn't completely change my life. Sorry but I wasn't sitting here crying myself to sleep every night over the updates. The phone was amazing the way it came, and as far as "super horrid touchwiz", that's just funny trolling.

RE: *wah*
By sigmatau on 8/7/2012 7:44:27 PM , Rating: 1
I've owned one idiot. I've said it before and you know it idiot.

The GS2 is a POS kids toy. It doesn't support Outlook correctly or work with sharepoint and portals correctly. It was beyond useless to me as I use my phones for work.

But hey, enjoy Smurfs Village on your POS.

RE: *wah*
By JasonMick on 8/7/2012 8:14:34 PM , Rating: 2
I've owned one ------. I've said it before and you know it -----.

The GS2 is a POS kids toy. It doesn't support Outlook correctly or work with sharepoint and portals correctly. It was beyond useless to me as I use my phones for work.

But hey, enjoy Smurfs Village on your POS.
As a Windows Phone owner, I have to say I disagree with Reclaimer -- my WP experience has been as good or better than Android. But I realize that every user's needs and preferences are a bit different.

You on the other hand, seem to see one side of the picture, and you also seem a little worked up.


RE: *wah*
By BabelHuber on 8/8/2012 7:10:08 AM , Rating: 1
There is a shitload of Android calendars in the Play Store which have good Outlook integration. Hell, even the original Google Calendar does this just fine.

Lots of colleagues have the SGS2, and somehow everybody manages to sync with Outlook, except of you of course.

For Sharepoint access, there are also lots of Apps (haven't tried this, though).

Also, since yesterday I'm running stock Android 4.1 on my SGS2 (Supernexus Rom).

For phone calls in my car, I can even use rSAP with an rSAP App. Just try to do this with WP7 or iOS.

Perhaps you are too dense to recognize this, but Android is not a closed system. Nobody forces you to use the Samsung Apps like the calendar or Touchwiz if you don't like it.

When buying an Android phone, it's not like buying a WP or an iOS phone.

It's more like buying a Windows Notebook: You can use the OS with the bloatware it ships with if you want to, but you are free to replace all Apps with others and even install any OS in case you don't.

RE: *wah*
By sigmatau on 8/8/2012 1:13:09 PM , Rating: 2
I could live without sharepoint/portals, but not outlook integration. The stock email app is beyond useless as it crashed 3-5 times a day and sometimes erased all emails on the my GS2. There are no good email apps for Android. I looked. k9 or other crap are beyond horrid. You can't even set them up correctly with outlook as it wont take your account settings even with the correct server information.

Why would I be bothered with looking for apps for something that is accessed from the web? I'm tired of making my GS2 work as it should out the gate. I need to get new calendars and other apps that should be stock? I also never said anything about calanders in my previous post. Good to here that the GS2 can't do that either correctly. WOW!

RE: *wah*
By BabelHuber on 8/9/2012 4:52:59 AM , Rating: 2
As I already have stated, I have lots of colleagues who use their SGS2 to sync with Outlook, and I have never heard a complaint from them.

You remind me of a friend who used to have an iPhone. After he saw my SGS2, he also bought one when his contract ran out.

Back then he told me the iPhone is too restricted for him. Now he tells me his SGS2 is too complicated for him.

Some people are never satisfied, I guess. They always complain and do not understand that some advantages also mean some disadvantages.

RE: *wah*
By Reclaimer77 on 8/8/2012 8:33:46 AM , Rating: 2
I literally have NO idea what you're talking about.

It's clear that Android isn't for you since you apparently cannot be bothered to take the five seconds required to locate the appropriate app and download it. Android most certainly supports those things.

RE: *wah*
By sigmatau on 8/8/2012 1:15:49 PM , Rating: 2
Um, sorry you are talking out your rear. Apparently you use your phone for games and such and not for work. Get a real job that requires access to emails while away from your office and get back to me. Until then, enjoy your Smurf Berries!

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