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For the total seven months of 2012 so far, the automaker has only sold 135 of these EVs

Ford's electric Focus hasn't had much luck in the sales department during 2012, and this was evident in July's numbers.

The electric Ford Focus, which is a 5-door hatchback electric vehicle (EV) that was first produced in December 2011, had a total of 38 sales in the United States for the month of July.

This was a pretty big drop from the 89 Ford Focus Electrics sold in June. However, for the total seven months of 2012 so far, the automaker has only sold 135 of these EVs.

Ford has built a total of 884 Ford Focus Electrics this year, with 121 built in July alone. The American automaker managed to sell zero Focus EVs in February, March and April.

Ford hasn't given any sales predictions for the Focus EV throughout the rest of 2012, but said it will match supply with demand. For right now, the Focus EV is only available in California, New York and New Jersey. It will make its way to 19 other markets this fall.


Source: The Detroit News



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RE: Simple
By Samus on 8/3/2012 10:50:19 PM , Rating: 2
Here's my math:

EV's have superior performance to anything in their price range (the Focus EV is 0-60 is <9 seconds, the Tesla S is 0-60 <6 seconds)

EV's do not have bad performance in Hot/Cold. Nissan screwed up this 'reputation' of EV's like Chrysler screwed up the reputation for turbo chargers in the 80's.

Good EV's have enough range for most of the population (only 5% of the country commutes more than 100 miles per day for work, and 3% of them are truck drivers)

Charging stations are coming along with grid optimizations and improvements. Like anything, it takes time.

This is all a transitionary technology. Hating on new transportation technology is stupid. If people don't buy it, then they'll just have to make it better. That's fine with me. I'm not personally buying one until quick charging (45 minute to 80% capacity) is a reality, which it will be in just a few years. But in the mean time, people who can utilize this technology are free to buy it, which is great.

Getting $7500 dollar government tax credits, on the other hand, is where I have a huge problem, one Walks didn't even mention.


RE: Simple
By mindless1 on 8/4/2012 1:55:34 PM , Rating: 1
It's not a race car, your idea of performance is ridiculous unless you're the type that always floors it coming off a red light only to sit and wait at the next light longer than everyone else.


RE: Simple
By StormyKnight on 8/5/2012 2:47:47 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
EV's do not have bad performance in Hot/Cold.

The batteries used in EVs suffer under conditions that are too hot or too cold. Hence, the performance (range) also suffers.


RE: Simple
By Samus on 8/6/2012 3:45:20 AM , Rating: 2
Tell that to Elon Musk. Tesla vehicles (in addition to the Chevy Volt) have negligible range impact from ambient temperatures. The heating/cooling system overhead has some draw on the overall range, but its around a 4-5% impact according to Tesla, who also states Nissans' air-cooled system reduces efficiency up to 50%.

And as far as I'm concerned, all these $40,000 EV's are performance cars. Yes, they have 100MPH-120MPH top speeds but they also have twice the torque of the petrol kit. It might not be immediately appearant, but when you load the car up with the family or haul around a few hundred pounds of cargo from Home Depot and you can still blast uphill like a diesel without running out of puffs, you'll realize they definately have a performance-edge over basically any naturally-aspirated engine.


RE: Simple
By Dr of crap on 8/6/2012 8:40:58 AM , Rating: 2
You must NOT live in tha area of the country that gets temps below -20°F. Some here where it does get that cold and colder, some can't even start our gas powered cars BECAUSE the battery can't get the engines started, BECAUSE of the much reduced energy of the battery at that cold temp!

Typical southener that doesn't understand winter temps!


RE: Simple
By Rukkian on 8/6/2012 9:44:27 AM , Rating: 2
Or he knows how some of the cars work (volt, tesla models) with heated and cooled batteries. This drops the efficiency 4-5%, and takes some of the power while charging, but gets around that issue for the most part.

The issue is with cars like the leaf that is just air cooled, and does not have a warmer.

As for the subsidies, the way they are implemented I do not agree in, but lets face it - most of the haters are simply rush is right people that hate Obama.

Most new technologies need help to get started, especially for something as ingrained into our society as the automobile. It takes time to get infrastructure, and for people to trust the technology. This particular credit is getting extra scrutiny by those that hate liberals (at least what Rush says a liberal is), and may be implemented int he wrong way.

Would you rather have money handed out for research by companies that do not directly effect citizens, or would you just like all research to not be funded by the government? Where do you draw the line? Cut off medical research, cause it isn't directly profitable? Cut off space exploration because it can't make money?

I will not be buying an ev of any type until the tech matures some, but that is what giving credits now does. I would personally like to see most spending dropped until we cut the deficit, but it would have to be across the board - IE cut some programs, but also close tax loopholes, cut aid to other countries, etc, etc.


RE: Simple
By Dr of crap on 8/6/2012 10:15:27 AM , Rating: 2
FAIL - he doesn't know how cars work.

And your reply has nothing to do with what I stated.

You reply is all political


RE: Simple
By Samus on 8/6/2012 12:32:03 PM , Rating: 2
I've been an automotive engineer at FoMoCo for a decade and you're telling me I don't know how cars 'work'?

Son, you truely are the doctor or crap.

Political views aside, the previous post is accurate. The energy used to keep the batteries at an efficient operating temperature greatly outweighs the lost efficiency incurred by a cold or overheating battery.

And I don't know who the post was directed at about being a "typical southerner" but I am from Chicago and it regularely drops well below 0f here in the Winter. It ain't Alaska but it definately pushes the capabilities of any battery chemistry. I use an engine block heater in my diesel just so the OIL doesn't freeze.


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