TSA Refuses to Hold Public Hearings on Nude Scanners, Court Chimes In
August 2, 2012 10:45 AM
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Court demands to know why TSA is brazenly violating federal laws and its orders
We've covered over the past few years how the
U.S. Transportation Safety Agency
's "nude" full-body scanners
have been used
. The TSA has received sweeping condemnation for the Orwellian scanner program, which many experts say
cannot detect dangerous materials
as well as
metal detectors or traditional search techniques
A handful of high-profile civil liberties watchdog organizations have targeted the deployment. Perhaps the most successful was the
Electronic Privacy Information Center
(EPIC) lawsuit against the TSA. While EPIC fell short of felling the nude scanners on Constitutional grounds, it did score a victory of sorts when the
U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit
found the TSA violated a federal transparency law.
The court on July 15, 2011 ordered the TSA "to act properly" and rectify its breach of the
Administrative Procedures Act
(APA) of 1946, which requires federal programs to hold public hearings. The TSA held no such hearings with regards to the court scanners, so three judge appellate panel
ordered the agency
[PDF] to undergo a 90-day public comment period.
The TSA has defied a court order to hold a public review its "nude" full-body scanners.
[Image Source: TSA]
So what’s problem? The TSA never complied with the court order. As of last month, it told
that the hearing and policy review had been shelved until sometime "next year". The TSA has stated it really doesn't want to hold the public review at all, as it feels it could harm the government's capability to respond to "ever-evolving threats."
That defiant stance landed the TSA back in court this week. In a
[PDF] the federal court reiterated its demand for hearings, ordering the TSA to respond by Aug. 30.
Jim Harper, the director of information policy studies at the
an active petition
on the new White House petition site rolled out by the Obama administration. The petition demands the TSA follow the law and hold the public hearings. The petition has almost 16,500 signatures and only needs about 8,500 more to reach its goal of 25,000. Under the rules of the petition site, if the additional signature mark is met, President Barack Obama must personally respond.
A petition hopes to get President Obama to force the TSA to follow the law.
It's understandable why the TSA wouldn't want to have to answer tough questions from the public on
health risks to frequent fliers
and why the TSA was
storing nude body scanner images
, after it had promised not to.
However, even considering the controversy, it's in the relative minority. Agencies like the
U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
have complied with the APA rules, offering public reviews of contentious provisions such as the
CAFE (corporate average fuel economy) standards
U.S. District Court for D.C. via Wired
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RE: It Simply Reflects a Change in American Values
8/3/2012 1:04:02 PM
Ridiculous hyperbole? Empty claim, unless you want to try to debate the major points in history and how they've impacted the country. The poster before you is right, but only in a limited sense: it's not the government itself, it's the electorate, but I made that point as well, that Vietnam and the social divide it created sent the electorate to the left.
But no, very few people outside the Tea Party cares. There's big-government Republicans out there, and then obviously the Democrats gleefully pull the country left. Okay, there might be some Libertarian Party folks unassociated with the Tea Party, but they're almost the same things.
And it's hardly an extreme to point out the failures of nations and empires throughout recorded history, or the collapse of the welfare state going on throughout Europe and certain American cities, or its failure in the 90s in Sweden I believe it was, etc. Spain's about to need a huge bailout -- OMG, HYPERBOLE!!! Or, maybe I'm just repeating a headline from CNBC. One of those.
Not really extreme to point out the science, the psychology, of how people get comfortable with all this, and herd mentalities, either. That's all pretty basic stuff.
Sorry if your education has failed you, but all I did was point out basics, and indicated history has a verdict on how it all turns out. I know government education doesn't equip us to typically connect dots, but FFS, wake up.
RE: It Simply Reflects a Change in American Values
8/3/2012 3:46:06 PM
When the military marches down my street, with the UAVs flying over, I will hop onto the internet really quickly to apologize about how wrong I was. Of course I'm sure by then the Big Government will have already turned off all access to the real internet. But in spirit I'll post something to you specifically.
You can follow your prophet, and the rest of us will listen to what he says and compile it along with the hundreds of other ideas we have to contend with. It must be great to be able to shut off all that other noise and focus on your one true message. But, the rational folks have discussions to have still, so run along.
I am right, anyone who disagrees with me is wrong. That's a great way to win people over to your cause!
It's so hard to find folks that don't like the TSA, I mean this board is full of people who are singing their praises. We are all just sheeple. The majority of this country is very happy with the patriot act, and are more than willing to give up their 2nd amendment. SOPA didn't generate an iota of pushback, and sailed right on through congress. So wow, you must feel really good about the coming military state, you'll be right while the rest of the US is thanking the government for their warm blanket of freedomless security.*tinfoil hat*
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