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Apple's "other" operating system gets a major update

Windows enthusiasts around the world are waiting for the October release of Windows 8. However, for those of the Mac persuasion, today marks the release of OS X 10.8 "Mountain Lion". Mountain Lion is the latest in a long line of OS X releases and is available for a "mere" $19.99 from the App Store.
 
For customers that purchased a new Mac computer since June 11, the upgrade to Mountain Lion is free from Apple.
 
Apple brags that Mountain Lion includes over 200 new features -- which are obviously too numerous to list here -- but we'll include just a couple of the highlights:
  • Full iCloud integration
  • Game Center, Reminders, and Notes -- all three are staples of iOS, and all three are iCloud-enabled
  • Messages -- another iOS transplant
  • Notification Center -- most Mac users got their notifications via Growl, but now Apple is getting into the game with the -- once again -- iOS-esque Notification Center
  • Dictation
  • Power Nap -- this feature allows a Mac to still periodically check email and sync iTunes content while in a deep state of sleep. If connected to a power source, the machine will also perform Time Machine backups and download software updates.
  • Facebook and Twitter -- these two social networks are also baked into the upcoming iOS 6 release

A few sites have posted reviews of Mountain Lion and the consensus is that it's a worthy upgrade to Lion. The Verge's Nilay Patel is overall pleased with the upgrade:
 
Ultimately, this is pretty easy: you should spend the $20 and upgrade to Mountain Lion, especially if you have a newer Mac. You’ll gain a handful of must-have features, and everything will get faster and smoother. I haven’t really missed Snow Leopard at all since upgrading, which is remarkable considering how much I disliked Lion...
 
Mountain Lion is the first version of OS X to deeply integrate network services at every level, from storing documents to sharing photos to connecting external displays, and it seems that much lighter for it — as though Apple’s relentless charge into its post-PC era has allowed the OS X team to rethink exactly what a PC is and should be. Mountain Lion isn’t perfect, but it’s a confident, thoughtful step towards the future of desktop computing.
 
Engadget's Brian Heater acknowledges that Mountain Lion is a bargain upgrade, but also notes that it seems as though OS X is mainly taking a back seat to iOS when it comes to attention/features, and that the operating system is in need of a complete "rethink":
 
That said, it seems time for Apple to make a bold new pronouncement on the desktop front. The company appears to have most of its resources invested in the mobile side -- and there's no question as to why: the iPhone and iPad have reinvigorated the company, making it a computing player on a scale that no one (save, perhaps, for Jobs himself) could have predicted a decade ago. Still, it might be hard for OS X users not to feel neglected -- many of the latest new features feel a bit like iOS hand-me-downs. When and if Apple rolls out a new operating system this time next year, hopefully we'll be seeing a very different side of Mac OS.
 
But with a price tag of just $20, Mountain Lion is a no-brainer upgrade for members of the Mac community.

Sources: The Verge, Engadget



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Just $20
By Reclaimer77 on 7/25/2012 12:13:18 PM , Rating: 0
For what amounts to a free Windows service pack.

I don't think the average Mac owner would know what a "bargain" is if you smashed a dictionary over their heads.




RE: Just $20
By Pirks on 7/25/12, Rating: -1
RE: Just $20
By quiksilvr on 7/25/2012 1:05:25 PM , Rating: 1
In my opinion, Apple should never charge for their OS. iLife, iWork and Mac OSX should be free upgrades forever because of their ridiculously overpriced products. The whole point for premium hardware is to get perks like premium software included with it.


RE: Just $20
By Pirks on 7/25/2012 3:27:56 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
their ridiculously overpriced products
Find the same quality clone of retina Macbook or Macbook Air that costs less. Not just the specs but how stiff/light/thin is the chassis, how long is battery life, what SSD is there, how good is the screen, how power connector is made, how fast you can get service in the nearest manufacturer's retail store, how can you control your OS using touch pad gestures, you know, the little details like that. Got anything on Windows side as good as these Apple products, DOWN TO THOSE DETAILS ABOVE, that cost LESS?


RE: Just $20
By Solandri on 7/25/2012 4:40:06 PM , Rating: 5
I feel like I post this every week...

The same is true for just about any high-end product on the market. Most such products have at least one thing that they're best-in-class at. Consequently, there is no other product which can match its features.

e.g. you could say the same thing about the 13" Asus Zenbook, and how it has a 1080p IPS screen, is thinner than the 13" MBA, has more ports, can output to HDMI without a dongle, can expand memory with a SO-DIMM, has discrete 3D video, is priced lower, etc. And how none of Apple's (or anyone else's) products matches or bests all those details.

It's a nonsensical argument crafted to arrive at a predetermined conclusion. To do a comprehensive comparison, you have to do a trade-off comparison - look not just at better features but also at inferior or missing features.


RE: Just $20
By retrospooty on 7/25/2012 5:18:47 PM , Rating: 3
Oy... the musical chair fanboy revolving door is now back frowning on MS and PC LOL. I Wonder whats next?


RE: Just $20
By Pirks on 7/25/12, Rating: 0
RE: Just $20
By hexxthalion on 7/25/12, Rating: 0
RE: Just $20
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 7/25/2012 12:38:31 PM , Rating: 3
There are over 200 new features and we can't possibly list them all. That's why I included a link to the full list.


RE: Just $20
By Reclaimer77 on 7/25/2012 12:54:37 PM , Rating: 3
You call those features? *snort*


RE: Just $20
By Reclaimer77 on 7/25/2012 12:59:43 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
- AirPlay and AirPlay mirroring


It's called Skype. It's way better, and free

quote:
- Gatekeeper


Microsoft Security Essentials and Malicious removal tool?

quote:
- system wide integration of 'share' button - you can share pretty much anything you want


So your desktop becomes Facebook? Uhh okay, whatever.

quote:
- Safari 6 with loads of updates


When's the last time anyone paid for a browser or a browser update? Seriously?

Sorry if you think anything here with worth a $20 "update", but it's just not. More of the same from crApple.


RE: Just $20
By Cheesew1z69 on 7/25/2012 1:03:13 PM , Rating: 1
Actually...not that I am defending Apple...

AirPlay lets you stream music throughout your entire house — wirelessly. AirPlay wireless technology will be fully integrated into speaker docks, AV receivers, and stereo systems from companies such as Bowers & Wilkins and Denon. So you can enjoy your entire iTunes library — every song and every playlist — in any room and anytime.

That wouldn't be Skype


RE: Just $20
By Reclaimer77 on 7/25/2012 1:11:23 PM , Rating: 2
Ugh I got Airplay confused with Facetime, my bad.


RE: Just $20
By Solandri on 7/25/2012 4:44:19 PM , Rating: 2
Airplay's equivalent would be DLNA. I've only fiddled a bit with either, so can't really say if one is better. Most newer audio systems support both, and most newer TVs support DLNA.


RE: Just $20
By hexxthalion on 7/25/12, Rating: 0
RE: Just $20
By Reclaimer77 on 7/25/2012 1:19:42 PM , Rating: 2
Is this the part where I'm supposed to go "oooohhh" and "ahhhhh"?


RE: Just $20
By hexxthalion on 7/25/12, Rating: -1
RE: Just $20
By B3an on 7/25/2012 1:58:39 PM , Rating: 1
• AirPlay - Proprietary Apple ****. The same sort of thing can be accomplished with DLNA, used on many devices like phones and TV's and is a industry standard. I can already stream my desktop to my TV wirelessly and i dont need any useless Apple TV to do it.

• Gatekeeper - Vista's UAC basically. Welcome to 2006. Hope you enjoy the annoying dialogue boxes... http://images.macworld.com/images/article/2012/02/...

• System wide Share button - A less useful version of Windows 8 Share button that Apple have quickly ripped off. This is the problem when MS show their future OS's many months in advance.


RE: Just $20
By retrospooty on 7/25/2012 2:42:25 PM , Rating: 2
"Gatekeeper - Vista's UAC basically. Welcome to 2006. Hope you enjoy the annoying dialogue boxes..."

Oh no, because when Apple copies, they are allowed to call it inventing remember? As a matter of fact, they just "invented" the 4 inch screen and 4G in a phone with the upcoming iPhone 5. They also "invented" the notification scheme right out from under Android where they copied it from.


RE: Just $20
By Reclaimer77 on 7/25/2012 3:39:05 PM , Rating: 2
Little known feature that comes standard with Windows Media Player called "Play to" does the same as Airplay.


RE: Just $20
By BillyBatson on 7/25/2012 2:45:30 PM , Rating: 2
"- system wide 'share' button isn't just FB and Twitter, also Flickr and others"

Are you serious? Lmao that sounds MUCH worse and far more useless than just facebook.

"- Safari 6 - do not track, iCloud tab synch, offline reading lists, unified search/address bar (at last), improvements to develop module and others"

Again it a browser the upgrade should be available to all Mac users.

Reclaimer is right.... (dare I say it!?)... Half of the upgrades on that list should be free to all Mac users, the other half if on a list like windows update I would never even heck to have installed. Sharing and social integration lol how ridiculous.


RE: Just $20
By hexxthalion on 7/26/2012 5:27:52 AM , Rating: 2
yep, safari 6 was released to Lion users yesterday - not sure about snow leo as I don't have it


RE: Just $20
By Paj on 7/26/2012 7:21:22 AM , Rating: 2
So Airplay is basically another proprietary Apple technology that has been around in a shareware or open source form for some time now?


RE: Just $20
By B3an on 7/25/2012 1:22:36 PM , Rating: 2
Gatekeeper is more like Windows UAC (User Account Control). By default it only allows apps from Apples store and identified developers. I can see this causing lots of issues with people wondering why they cant install some things now.

Kind of funny really, in those annoying ads Apple used to take the p**s out of Vista for UAC and its security dialogue boxes popping up, and now Apple have gone and done the same sort of thing.

This is also another in a long line of security features that Windows has for years and only now OSX is just implementing it.


RE: Just $20
By Reclaimer77 on 7/25/2012 1:27:47 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
By default it only allows apps from Apples store and identified developers.


LOL brilliant right? Apple is making OSX just as walled as iOS.

It's a feature, you know, worth 20 bucks. Having Apple dictate what you can install and further pushing people into their closed AppStore/iTunes ecosystem of whoring.


RE: Just $20
By hexxthalion on 7/25/2012 1:29:43 PM , Rating: 2
read it like a requirement for digital signature - hope that explains it better


RE: Just $20
By retrospooty on 7/25/2012 1:36:27 PM , Rating: 2
Sounds like a bunch of nothing to me. Nothing worth even installing other than the update/patch type items.


RE: Just $20
By hexxthalion on 7/25/2012 1:40:34 PM , Rating: 2
that's OK, AirPlay mirroring alone is worth the upgrade - that's something I've been waiting for


RE: Just $20
By Reclaimer77 on 7/25/2012 3:51:07 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
that's OK, AirPlay mirroring alone is worth the upgrade - that's something I've been waiting for


This is so typical of an Apple faithful. We've been doing this on our PC's for like, I don't know, a decade now? But in typical Mactard fashion, you'll just wait and wait for something from Apple no matter how long it takes them.


RE: Just $20
By retrospooty on 7/25/2012 5:03:47 PM , Rating: 2
"This is so typical of an Apple faithful. We've been doing this on our PC's for like, I don't know, a decade now? "

Yup, and the Apple narrative is that they invented it... then a year from now the narrative is that others copied it from Apple. the hipocracy of this company and the gullibility of its fans are absolutely amazing.


RE: Just $20
By web2dot0 on 7/25/2012 5:47:01 PM , Rating: 2
Dude, that's like saying MP3 players' been out forever, so what's the big deal with iPod?

I get it. You are a Apple Hater.

Just because the similar feature is avail from other platforms doesn't mean the feature is meaningless and old.

It's HOW the feature complements the OS. Get it?

Wow, laptops been around for 20years .... big deal. I know, but it's the DETAILS that count.

Oh, transistors been around for 50years, so what's the big deal with i7 processors? The technology is 50years old!!!!!!!

Move on buddy. You are acting like a 8 year old. Mountain Lion is out and let the reviewers REVIEW it. At the end of the day, there's something called "The Market" that will dictate whether the product is a viable product or not.

The record will speak for itself. Just like Windows ME/Vista is the worse product EVER. The jury is out. If no one buy the upgrade, then it's a dud. GET IT?


RE: Just $20
By Reclaimer77 on 7/25/2012 6:07:19 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Move on buddy. You are acting like a 8 year old. Mountain Lion is out and let the reviewers REVIEW it. At the end of the day, there's something called "The Market" that will dictate whether the product is a viable product or not.


In that case I'm vindicated. Because "the market" hasn't rallied to Apple computers and their OS's since the early 1990's.


RE: Just $20
By Pirks on 7/25/2012 6:17:36 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
the market hasn't rallied to Apple computers
The market has spoken - Apple makes way more profit selling computers than Dell or some other cheapo PC maker like Acer. Time to stop being super duper dumb, Reclaimer. Read some financial reports, will ya?


RE: Just $20
By Reclaimer77 on 7/25/2012 6:31:31 PM , Rating: 2
Profit isn't marketshare. Windows crushes OSX, and always has.


RE: Just $20
By Pirks on 7/25/2012 6:42:34 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Profit isn't marketshare
This explains why MS with all its huge market share makes less money than Apple with its much smaller market share. I bet Ballmer is VERY unhappy that his large marketshare can't be translated into similarly large profits.


RE: Just $20
By Reclaimer77 on 7/25/2012 7:39:42 PM , Rating: 1
Now you're just trolling Pirks. You can do better than that.

I love how you guys just have to bring up Apple's profits at every opportunity, even when they aren't relevant. Do you get an erection looking at stock prices or something?

I was making an argument that when it comes to desktop OS's, "the market" isn't choosing OSX, and traditionally never has in large numbers. Market share proves this. How is bringing up profits defeating my point?

Tell me Pirks, financial wizard, how do Apple's profits stack up to Microsoft just on the OS side of things? The entire Mac OS install user base, world wide, was only 58 million users. Let's compare Apples to Oranges here...


RE: Just $20
By Pirks on 7/25/2012 8:20:21 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I was making an argument that when it comes to desktop OS's, "the market" isn't choosing OSX, and traditionally never has in large numbers. Market share proves this. How is bringing up profits defeating my point?
Well, you can bring the same point about market "not choosing" premium cars like Lexus and BMW because the market share of much cheaper Chevys and Fords is quite larger. Does this point prove anything? I don't think so, since markets were always shaping like a pyramid, i.e. the most profitable and expensive products on top narrow part with low sales and insane profits, while the cheapest junk is the base of the pyramid with huge sales and zero profit.

Hence marketshare doesn't mean match just by itself. I think the profits matter much more. Can you make a profit by selling a billion of devices for 1 cents of profit on each device sold while your competitor sells ONE device that brings him one billion dollars in profit? Yes you can and your marketshare will be billion times your competitor's BUT your profits will be 1% of his. Did I make myself clear on this?
quote:
How do Apple's profits stack up to Microsoft just on the OS side of things?
Well, Apple sells computers and gets profit per computer sold. MS sells OS licenses and gets profit from a license sold. Typical Apple computer costs circa $1500-$2000, that's middle price, I'm not including $3-5K laptops and desktops and I don't include cheapo $799 low end Macs. Typical Windows license costs around $150-200. Again average number, excluding extreme cases here. How much profit can you get from a Windows license for $200 versus profit from a $2000 laptop? Looks like with large margins on Apple hardware the Apple's profit from such a laptop will be quite above the profit MS makes from a Windows license. Even if MS license is pure profit (ideal case) then MS gets say $200 profit from a sold license and Apple is making twice that, i.e. they'd get like $400 of profit, if not more, from a typical Apple laptop they sell. So the 60 million current OS X users are the same in bringing profit as 120 million Windows users.

Well well well. The picture now looks not so rosy for MS because the Windows market is now saturated and MS market share in the OS market has peaked like 10 years ago and slowly but steadily declining ever since. Looks like MS has no place to grow now, they has grown fast until they hit their ceiling in 2000, now they just hold onto that decades old desktop PC market and constantly try to break into the new markets, failing all the time. They failed with Zune, Kin, WP7, and even Xbox success may not pay off all the billions they have sunk into it, including billions to deal with RROD, billions wasted on the previous version of Xbox, etc.

So the company like MS that has a HUGE market share among the low paying, low profit customers, is kinda in a precarious position. It has to grow somewhere and conquer new markets, since it has conquered all the old markets it could and is dominating on them already, so nowhere to grow on them now.

The new competition of highly profitable companies like Apple is a serious threat for them 'cause what is your huge market share worth if it doesn't bring you as large profits as your competitor's smaller marketshare? Eventually your domination and huge market share on the older markets will mean nothing when you are just a tiny blip on a radar of a much more rich competitor.

Say, is you company selling old fashioned iron nails worth much when there is a competitor selling uberexpensive and trendy diamond nails that people kill each other for? Even though you keep 95% market share among all the iron nail makers... you still will look in jealousy how that sneaky diamond nail guy made a billion in profit selling just one truckload of those diamond nails while you sold 10 full freight trains of your iron nails which brough you only 10 million in profit.

So next year that diamond nail guy just knocks on your door and tells you that he just purchased your company with his spare change, and you now work for him.

Will you enjoy your HUGE 95% market share on the iron nail market then, Reclaimer, if you were that iron nail maker guy? Or would you maybe start thinking that market share is much less important than profits?

Good thing Ballmer does NOT think like you do, hehe :)))


RE: Just $20
By Reclaimer77 on 7/25/2012 8:33:49 PM , Rating: 2
You honestly expect anyone to read something, coming from you of all people, THAT long?


RE: Just $20
By retrospooty on 7/25/2012 8:41:18 PM , Rating: 2
that's what's funny about pirks, he's like a dog. He has absolutely no idea how stupid he is or how others view him.


RE: Just $20
By Pirks on 7/25/2012 9:00:46 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
You honestly expect anyone to read something, coming from you of all people, THAT long?
This is why you have no university education, 'cause you have no patience to read and listen, and uni lectures are MUCH longer than my posts :P


RE: Just $20
By retrospooty on 7/25/2012 9:42:54 PM , Rating: 2
But people pay for the education, and Its beneficial... What You post is angry irrational fanboy crap. I Get What you are saying above but your analogies are way off And not relevant to the topic.


RE: Just $20
By Pirks on 7/25/2012 10:31:31 PM , Rating: 2
I was just saying that profits are more important than market share, and illustrated this with a couple of examples. Why you guys are so dumb to understand such simple and obvious things is beyond me.


RE: Just $20
By retrospooty on 7/25/2012 10:40:41 PM , Rating: 2
Your comparison of iron to diamond nails is not at all like apple vs ms. Both are very profitable. It's not like ms has all market share and no money. One sells software and the other hardware. Throw in the multi billion dollar enterprise sector that ms lives off and it's even less relevant. I agree though, much of it is beyond you.


RE: Just $20
By Pirks on 7/26/2012 1:21:47 AM , Rating: 2
Doesn't matter if you like my analogy or not, my point about market share being less important than profits is still valid.

Because company with huge profits and 1% market share may eventually buy out the competitor with tiny profits and 99% of market share.

This is how free market economy works, dude. Even though, much of this knowledge is beyond you and Reclaimer.


RE: Just $20
By retrospooty on 7/26/2012 7:36:26 AM , Rating: 2
"Doesn't matter if you like my analogy or not, my point about market share being less important than profits is still valid."

If your a stockholder or owner yes. But this discussion wasnt about profit.

"Because company with huge profits and 1% market share may eventually buy out the competitor with tiny profits and 99% of market share"

Yes this is true if it were 99 to 1 or even 90 to 10, but MS and Apple are roughly equal, both make billions every year. Thus your analogy is irrelevant to the subject matter. Its not that it isn't true, its just not applicable to THIS conversation.


RE: Just $20
By Pirks on 7/26/2012 11:29:42 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
If your a stockholder or owner yes
So if you are a user of something like BlackBerry, and you observe how a smaller but much more profitable competitor like Apple starts go use their profit leverage to slowly but steadily push your beloved BlackBerry out of the market - you'd still care about BlackBerry? Or you'd say screw it, I'm not a shareholder so why would I care?


RE: Just $20
By Reclaimer77 on 7/26/2012 10:24:17 AM , Rating: 2
LOL you know Retro, right or wrong, I think Pirks has the best self image and confidence in himself than all of us put together. When he dies I hope he donates his brain to science.


RE: Just $20
By Cheesew1z69 on 7/26/2012 10:53:51 PM , Rating: 2
No matter how much they study it, they still will not be able to fix stupid.


RE: Just $20
By Pirks on 7/27/2012 2:25:35 AM , Rating: 2
You're too late to the party, clown.


RE: Just $20
By hexxthalion on 7/26/12, Rating: 0
RE: Just $20
By Cheesew1z69 on 7/26/2012 9:04:55 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
and use my computer for whatever I need to do without worrying about it and tweaking it and so on.
I just use mine without worrying and tweaking, and so do millions of other users. Just because you don't know how to use it properly doesn't mean it's a fault of Windows.


RE: Just $20
By hexxthalion on 7/26/2012 12:19:36 PM , Rating: 1
right... you of course know better ;)


RE: Just $20
By KPOM1 on 7/25/2012 4:22:17 PM , Rating: 2
No, UAC is more like the built-in password requests OS X has always had whenever installing a new program. Gatekeeper is full sandboxing, much more akin to how iOS and Windows RT work.


RE: Just $20
By TakinYourPoints on 7/26/2012 2:30:22 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Gatekeeper is more like Windows UAC (User Account Control). By default it only allows apps from Apples store and identified developers. I can see this causing lots of issues with people wondering why they cant install some things now.

Kind of funny really, in those annoying ads Apple used to take the p**s out of Vista for UAC and its security dialogue boxes popping up, and now Apple have gone and done the same sort of thing.


Incorrect, you have it backwards. UAC took after the *nix style of temporary elevation of user rights to admin, which OS X has obviously been doing since its beginning.

Gatekeeper is simply a whitelist of developers and applications that are known to not be or distributing malware. Any developer can get on this whitelist, even without being on the App Store.

This is just a way to verify that an application isn't malware, and obviously if it is then it would be removed. Users have an option to install anything they choose, obviously, in which case they go through the same admin approval process they did before.

It isn't a walled garden, and it isn't like anything Windows is implementing at the moment.


RE: Just $20
By KPOM1 on 7/25/2012 4:19:04 PM , Rating: 2
It adds voice dictation. Nuance is a $99 product, by comparison (sure it does more and is offline, but still). Game Center, Power Nap, and a new Mail client are other substantive upgrades. It's also quicker and uses less system resources. Windows 7 didn't do much that Vista didn't, yet it was a full-priced upgrade.

Apple also made Safari 6 available for Lion owners, so no, they aren't charging for a browser update.


RE: Just $20
By tayb on 7/25/2012 12:49:26 PM , Rating: 2
It's obviously free to troll. And make mindless comments.


RE: Just $20
By Cheesew1z69 on 7/25/2012 12:54:34 PM , Rating: 2
Yep, it sure is. Tony is the master Troll. Pirks is second.


RE: Just $20
By Tony Swash on 7/25/12, Rating: 0
RE: Just $20
By drycrust3 on 7/25/2012 4:09:32 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
OSX versus Windows 8, both on legacy PC and devices. OSX upgraded on both desktop and devices annually, I wonder how often Microsoft can manage Windows updates?

One of the most important issues regarding using a computer connected to the internet is security.
The discovery of means to penetrate an OS or browser and the sophistication and amount of malware is growing at what seems like a daily basis, meaning that annual updates are totally inadequate. Microsoft does at least release security updates on a monthly basis.
I use Ubuntu as my OS, and it seems to me that users are supplied with updates at least on a monthly basis, if not more frequent than that.


RE: Just $20
By Cheesew1z69 on 7/25/2012 4:20:52 PM , Rating: 2
Usually every Tuesday they release updates.


RE: Just $20
By hexxthalion on 7/25/2012 1:17:54 PM , Rating: 1
and you two are just clueless TROLLS


RE: Just $20
By Cheesew1z69 on 7/25/2012 1:19:38 PM , Rating: 1
And I give 2 fucks what you think I am. I am certainly no troll. You may want to look around here and it's obvious who is.


RE: Just $20
By messele on 7/25/2012 3:01:51 PM , Rating: 2
So what business do you have rushing to post in an article about Mac OSX apart from you desire, along with Reclaimer, Mr. Bean and others to just be a complete an utter prick at every opportunity?


RE: Just $20
By Cheesew1z69 on 7/25/2012 3:10:22 PM , Rating: 2
It's a public site and being an utter prick any chance I get? I think you have me mistaken with someone else.


RE: Just $20
By Pirks on 7/26/2012 12:34:15 PM , Rating: 2
You are 0th


RE: Just $20
By Belard on 7/25/2012 4:19:44 PM , Rating: 3
Is it legal to tazer a troll?

MS SP are much smaller then this, Service Packs are a collection of fixes and security patches. Slight updates to the OS, no actual change to the OS itself.


RE: Just $20
By TakinYourPoints on 7/26/2012 2:34:48 AM , Rating: 2
I've upgraded MS operating systems since DOS 3.0, and OS X only since 10.2, so I have well over a decade head start experience in upgrading Microsoft operating systems.

Calling an OS X upgrade a "service pack" only speaks to ignorance of the platform, which isn't surprising given that Reclaimer has made the argument that OS X is a walled garden (hilarious). Either way, the move from 10.3 to 10.4 alone was more substantial than the move from XP to Vista, and any of them are larger than the move from Vista to Windows 7.


RE: Just $20
By captainBOB on 7/26/2012 5:32:12 AM , Rating: 1
I don't have enough facepalms to convey the amount of fail in this statement.

I will list one change from 10.7 that makes this far more than a "Service Pack"

Full 64-bit, no 32-bit compatibility layers or anything, just pure 64-bit. 32-bit in Apple land is gone as of 10.8

I seriously doubt Microsoft could make a simple Service Pack that would have a change this significant.

Last I checked, Windows Vista and 7 Service Packs brought very little user facing changes, I certainly didn't see any difference in the UI after installing them, nor did I see any indication that any stock applications were changed.

The XP service packs were such a massive upgrade because they had to update a very old OS to support newer technologies that didn't exist at its release, it was never supposed to last as long as it did. Now that Microsoft is back on schedule for OS releases I doubt we will ever see more than 1 service pack, and it will probably consist of mostly bugfixes and updates to APIs and other under the hood changes, similar to a 10.x.5 release.

Either way, with OS X so cheap now, and moving to a yearly release schedule, it wouldn't surprise me if subsequent releases are free.


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