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The problem is likely Nissan's air cooling system used for the Leaf's battery

The Nissan Leaf is a top player in the electric vehicle (EV) industry, but one major issue that sometimes plagues these vehicles is the battery -- and the Leaf's battey seems to be taking a lot of heat.

Leaf owners in Arizona have recently complained that their EVs are losing significant capacity in the desert's hot heat. In fact, Arizona Leaf drivers Scott Yarosh and Mason Convey have both testified to this claim.

"When I first purchased the vehicle, I could drive to and from work on a single charge, approximately 90 miles round trip," said Yarosh. "[Now] I can drive approximately 44 miles on this without having to stop and charge."

Both owners said they've lost about 30 percent of their battery capacity since purchasing their vehicles. Even when their batteries are fully charged, two to three of the 12 lights on their battery capacity gauge are out.

Both owners are very meticulous about how they care for their Leafs. There is absolutely no sign of abuse, as both were able to produce dealership service records with high marks.

"We want to learn more about what's going on, but it's something we've just been made aware of, and we don't have any conclusions yet," said Perry.

The problem is likely Nissan's air cooling system used for the Leaf's battery. Tesla CEO Elon Musk even predicted that Nissan's cooling system would fail the Leaf at some point back in August of 2010.

Musk said that Nissan's Leaf employed a cheaper air cooling system that would make its battery temperatures jump "all over the place," where cold temperatures would degrade the battery while hot temperatures would shut it down. Tesla, on the other hand, uses a high-end liquid heating/cooling thermal management solution.

But for those who are still avid Leaf fans, there's great news if you live in California or Washington. Dealerships in these two states are cutting about $5,000 off the price tag for a new 2012 Nissan Leaf. The MSRP is usually $37,250, but with the $7,500 federal tax credit, the $2,500 California clean-vehicle purchase rebate, and now the additional $5,000 off, the price for a brand-new 2012 Leaf is only about $23,000.

Sources: CBS 5, Green Car Reports

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RE: What a deal!
By bebimbap on 7/19/2012 12:17:16 PM , Rating: 1
$23k is so misleading it's almost just a bold faced lie.
$7,500 federal tax credit, doesn't mean you will get $7,500 rebate check from the IRS. It means IF you owe the IRS more than $7500, they'll knock that off.

In simple terms the car is still $30.5k for everyone that earns less than $60k /year because of all the deductions you would get otherwise.

Just be very careful when talking about "rebates" or "credits" as they are two completely different things to the government.

RE: What a deal!
By chripuck on 7/19/2012 12:24:29 PM , Rating: 3
Wrong, tax credit is a line item on a tax return. If the IRS would normally owe you 2k and you get the 7.5k tax credit then you will get 9.5k back.

RE: What a deal!
By MadMan007 on 7/19/2012 12:54:54 PM , Rating: 2
Almost. It depends on whether it's a refundable tax credit or just a tax credit. The former is in fact 'refunded' and can itself result in a refund of the credit amount as in the example you stated, the former can only reduce tax liability to $0. I didn't look up which type this one is.

RE: What a deal!
By borismkv on 7/19/2012 12:57:33 PM , Rating: 2
It's a refundable credit.

RE: What a deal!
By Church of Dirac on 7/19/2012 12:57:23 PM , Rating: 3
No, you are incorrect, bebimbap had it right.

Be very careful with this as you may not get the full $7500 depending on your circumstance. The tax credit is non-refundable and does not carry over. Meaning you must claim it in one tax year, and you can’t carry over any benefit into future years. IN General – if you have $7500 in tax liabilities after all your deductions, you can claim the full credit. Someone making about $56,000 a year with only a standard deduction (no kids, mortgage etc) will generally be able to claim the full credit. However, if you have significant deductions from kids / house, etc – you might run into trouble. On way of doing a quick check is to see how much you owed the IRS in taxes last year (assuming this year your tax circumstances didn’t change materially). This is not the amount you paid or got refunded, but the total tax owed. (This is on Line 44 last year of your 1040)

RE: What a deal!
By borismkv on 7/19/2012 12:57:05 PM , Rating: 2
There are two types of tax credits. Refundable and non-refundable. Non-refundable tax credits work as you say, but refundable tax credits are paid in full regardless of what is owed. The electric vehicle tax credit is a refundable tax credit.

RE: What a deal!
By Spuke on 7/19/2012 2:47:00 PM , Rating: 2
The electric vehicle tax credit is a refundable tax credit.
No, it's not. See the link above.

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