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Court makes ruling after agreeing with Samsung that Apple's false statements could have caused harm

While the insanity continues in the U.S. with Apple, Inc. (AAPL) being granted software patents with little care for reason, in the United Kingdom sanity has slowly been restored, thanks to proactive London courts.

In recent weeks Apple saw UK courts order its design patent narrowed and many of its European Union software patents invalidated.  There would be no bans of Android tablets or smartphones based on Apple's tenuous, and often painfully obvious "invention" claims, the judges ruled.

The decision only applies to the UK, as in the EU patents are granted first by regulators with the union's intellectual property body, then reissued as identical patents by each member-state.  In other words, only the UK copy of the European Patent was invalidated.  But the decision has a strong likelihood of informally swaying the decisions of courts in other member states, given the UK's leading economic role in the EU.

To add insult to injury, the UK court has ordered that Apple print an apology to Samsung Electronics Comp., Ltd. (KSC:005930) in several major newspapers, acknowledging that its competitor's design was not a copy of the iPad.

Samsung’s lawyer Kathryn Pickard complained at a UK hearing that Apple's highly publicized claims that Samsung had "stolen" the iPad design "caused real commercial harm."

While late Apple CEO Steve Jobs accused Samsung of "stealing" his company's ideas, vowing "thermonuclear war", Samsung has never admitted to doing such a thing.  By contrast Mr. Jobs himself  brazenly bragged of his company's lust for stealing others' work, "Picasso had a saying - 'Good artists copy, great artists steal.' And we have always been shameless about stealing great ideas."

The court agreed with Samsung's assessment that Apple had harmed it with lies.  It ordered Apple to pay for notices in four of the nation's top newspapers/publications --  Financial Times, the Daily Mail, Guardian Mobile magazine, and T3.  A draft must be sent to Samsung's lawyers for approval.

Financial Times
Apple must pay for apologies in several top UK publications. [Image Source: The Guardian]

Apple must also print a notice on its UK homepage for six months stating that Samsung's tablets are unique and do not copy its iPad.

Richard Hacon, Apple's lawyer bemoaned the ruling, saying it would amount to "an advertisement" for Samsung.  He commented, "No company likes to refer to a rival on its website."

Apple's lawyers of late have been open in acknowledging how difficult it is for their company to keep up with its more lively South Korean rival, commenting, "Samsung is always one step ahead, launching another product and another product."

Sadly for those lawyers, their dream of trying to catch up by banning the competition have been rewarded with a public-relations nightmare.

Source: Bloomberg

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Better then fines
By vXv on 7/18/2012 4:21:15 PM , Rating: 5
That ruling is way better then just having apple pay fines or damages ... they basically have to tell everybody "we can't compete on the marked so we try to kill our competition in the court rooms".

RE: Better then fines
By JackBurton on 7/18/12, Rating: -1
RE: Better then fines
By Gondor on 7/18/2012 5:11:26 PM , Rating: 5
A couple of decades ago IBM created x86-based PC market. After it couldn't compete anymore with a multitude of its rivals they sold the PC division off and you can no longer buy an IBM PC today.

Being the one to start the market in no way implies that you'll remain competitive forever and same holds true for Apple; since they fail to compete the normal way (by offering better product at the same price or by offering a comparable product at lower price) they resorted to in-court bullying through their patent trolling.

RE: Better then fines
By JackBurton on 7/18/12, Rating: -1
RE: Better then fines
By retrospooty on 7/18/2012 6:09:08 PM , Rating: 5
You say that as if all companies dont copy others... Apple is one of the absolute worst ever. They copies Palm and RIM far FAR more than any android maker copied Apple and you know it.

RE: Better then fines
By JackBurton on 7/18/12, Rating: -1
RE: Better then fines
By retrospooty on 7/18/2012 7:33:27 PM , Rating: 5
Lets see, a mobile OS, with apps, email and internet on a phone? Yup, been done. Yes, they added a multitouch screen and a slick UI. But it actually had less features. It was a great product and deserved the great sales. It does NOT mean they have the right to sue others for copying the same way they copy. All companies do this and Apple is more guity of it than most. Its total BS, and if you cant see that and see it clearly, then you are an idiot.

RE: Better then fines
By retrospooty on 7/18/2012 7:39:20 PM , Rating: 3
On another note, at this Point Android has far surpassed iPhone is both hardware and software. Apple is being outsold by Android phones and so decided to copy android makers and go with a larger screen. I am sure they will have good hardware, but IOS 6 is lagging behind Android 4.1 . IOS has been surpassed in pretty much every way, so its hard to call it a "copy" when its totally superior.

RE: Better then fines
By Pirks on 7/18/12, Rating: -1
RE: Better then fines
By retrospooty on 7/18/2012 8:01:09 PM , Rating: 2
There are IOS6 and Jelly Bean videos all over youtube, you go see for yourself. Anyone that can look at teh both and think IOS is even close needs thier heads examined. Jbean is faster too.

this is just the voice app, but its a good barometer. This is on a Nexus too, so old CPU, nothing near as fast as newer Androids out this summer.

RE: Better then fines
By Pirks on 7/18/12, Rating: -1
RE: Better then fines
By sprockkets on 7/18/2012 9:52:43 PM , Rating: 3
RE: Better then fines
By gladiatorua on 7/20/2012 1:24:06 AM , Rating: 2
Siri sucks balls.

In default iPhone configuration or you have to buy an accessory for that?

RE: Better then fines
By retrospooty on 7/18/2012 11:25:18 PM , Rating: 2
Go look on youtube at the jellybean demos. Its insane fast. And again on the old TI 1.2ghz chip from the nexus... I cant wait to see It on my SGS3.

RE: Better then fines
By robinthakur on 7/19/12, Rating: -1
RE: Better then fines
By retrospooty on 7/19/2012 10:10:59 AM , Rating: 5
"My SGS3 slows down markedly once you start to fill up the internal storage and home screens take ages to refresh etc. "

My SGS3 is ridiculous fast, loaded like yours. You either have a defective device, or have done something that somehow is slowing it down, or your just full of s$%t.

"The build quality of the SGS3 is awful"

This is what makes me think your full of it... I am amazed at how great the build quality is. For a device with a screen this big, I find it amazing that a device this solid is so thin and light... or is it amazingly thin and light for a device that is so solid.

"The ironic problem with the SGS3 is that there is no iTunes equivalent. "

OK, its starting to make sense now. You think itunes is a good thing.

Me, I plug in my usb cable and copy files as if it were a flash drive, therefore there is no need for that aweful joke of software called iTunes. IOS is ok, but iTunes is just crap.

RE: Better then fines
By Reclaimer77 on 7/19/2012 11:22:14 AM , Rating: 3
That's a pretty impressive demonstration of how much Siri, and the iPhone 4S itself, lag's behind the competition. What's more impressive is that's the new DEFAULT search for Android. Not some special gimmicky trick like Apple did with Siri.

Jelly Bean pretty much rules over all other mobile OS's at this point. Android is freight train of innovation rolling down a mountain without brakes.

RE: Better then fines
By retrospooty on 7/19/2012 11:45:08 AM , Rating: 2
"Jelly Bean pretty much rules over all other mobile OS's at this point. "

I know... Have you seen the live demo's of it? They are all over youtube. Check this one from like 1:25 to 1:40 . Just flipping thruugh home screens. It almost looks like the video is on fast forward, but its real-time. And still, this is the old 1.2ghz TI SOC chip on the Nexus, which is pretty crummy compared to the chips in the latest Androids out, and even the iPhone 4s.

RE: Better then fines
By Pirks on 7/19/2012 3:13:57 PM , Rating: 1
Nice WP7.5 ripoff, they ripped the camera UI, the fluidity of OS and the triple dot menus (...)

Too bad WP8 is around the corner where they finally got rid of stupid limitations of WP7. The moment Samsung ships Galaxy Note 2 with WP8 onboard I'm likely do dump Android, 'cause original is still better than clone. We'll see however, MS is not particularly fast in shipping mobile OSes, they may procrastinate and fuck it up again like they did with WP7.

But even with WP7 it turned out today that Lumia sales double every quarter, they sold whopping 4 million WP7.5 Lumias this quarter, wow. I was sure they wouldn't ever break 2 million but boy was I pwned by Ballmer this time hehe :))) If WP7 sales double even now with shitty phone hardware and limitations I wonder how unlimited by hardware WP8 will fly... anyway I'm likely dumping Android and going back to WP8 phablet the moment they make such a phablet (which is a big IF) just because Google just clones stuff made by MS and Apple. It's not that bad by itself but... still after experience with WP UI and Android UI I definitely feel that original is better than clone.

RE: Better then fines
By retrospooty on 7/19/2012 3:51:39 PM , Rating: 2
"Nice WP7.5 ripoff, they ripped the camera UI, the fluidity of OS and the triple dot menus "

??? What is wrong with you Pirks. You are never happy with anything. OK, I didn't notice the camera UI on WP7.5 because I didnt launch it, but "fluidity of OS" ? What are you Apple now? From this point forward, anyone with a fast moving OS is copying WP7.5. LOL. Idiot. That is like saying Ferrari copied Lamborgini's speed. We were fast first!

Android 4.1 is the best mobile OS out today period. There is nothing else that does what it does. Even YOU boought an Android because your BB, and your WP7 phone cant do what you want it to do, and you STILL complain about Android. Seriously man, in a long line of retarded comments from you this has got to be the dumbest.

RE: Better then fines
By Pirks on 7/19/2012 4:31:36 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, I still complain because stock Android 2.3 on my brand new Galaxy Note was batshit ugly and totally unusable. I haven't seen worse looking and behaving mobile OS in my life, even BB7 is way nicer and faster, and Android 4.0.4 still can't render web pages with animated gifs and italicized fonts correctly, both stock browser in 4.0.4 and Chrome have errors and bad rendering of some kind, so I constantly switching between 'em which is fucked up, never done this on BB7 ever! And ICS UI speed is still crap, it's laggy compared to WP7.5. So yeah, I have something to complain about and I don't care if you stay blind to OS defects or not. I can see them and that's enough for me.
Android 4.1 is the best mobile OS
I don't give a fuck 'coz my Galaxy Note won't get it (Samsung will never do this 'coz they have Galaxy Note 2 to sell and they DO NOT want ppl to download 4.1 on their Galaxy Note instead of buying Galaxy Note 2), and IF it gets it much later as a Cyanogenmod I'm going to get stuck with a fucking dead stylus support 'cause fucking Samsung software needs that closed source TouchWiz shit to operate properly and you need Samsung software if you wanna use stylus.

Jelly Bean is good only for the owners of Google branded Nexus phones, but these have kinda crappy screen, too small for me :) So for me, on my highest end current Android device there is NOTHING in that Jelly Bean goodness. And won't be for a long time. Don't forget it's not Apple where they get OS for their device immediately after release. There is a price to pay for that zoo of Android hardware.

RE: Better then fines
By retrospooty on 7/19/2012 5:02:34 PM , Rating: 2
"Yeah, I still complain because......."

Well, you've run the gambit and used them all and found them all to be lacking. Every single mobile OS has a laundry list of problems for you. I dont know what to tell you. MAybe you shouldnt use a smartphone, or just go with "As good as you can get".

"coz my Galaxy Note won't get it"

I told you to wait. You bought a year old phone, its not like you thought there would be an upgrade... There is always cyanogenmod10. It will come soon enough.

"Jelly Bean is good only for the owners of Google branded Nexus phones"
Glad my SGS3 is getting Jellybean, already announced that tehy will be upgrading it on all carriers. :P Its not "just" the Nexus, even the note 2 will have it.

Stop complaining and enjoy your phone, it has a brilliant screen and a decent OS... I almost got a note as well, even compared to the SGS3, the note screen is almost enough to make me a bit jealous of your phone.

Like I said, Jellybean is as good as it gets for a mobile OS in 2012. Since you appear to be very demanding and hard to satisfy, I don't think buying last years model is a good idea for you.

RE: Better then fines
By Pirks on 7/19/2012 5:36:16 PM , Rating: 2
Yah I'll enjoy my Android phablet until WP8 phablet comes along. That's right I'm demanding when I use my OS and if it's not slick and fast enough I'll say bye bye to it sooner or later. The Jelly Bean in Cyanogenmod 10 without Samsung's software that enables stylus is not gonna help either.

RE: Better then fines
By retrospooty on 7/19/2012 6:01:07 PM , Rating: 2
"That's right I'm demanding when I use my OS and if it's not slick and fast enough I'll say bye bye to it sooner or later."

This I understand, but none of them seem to be good enough for you LOL. Dont count on WP8 being the savior, it is still MS.

RE: Better then fines
By Pirks on 7/19/2012 6:20:36 PM , Rating: 1
Nah I don't count on it, I totally expect MS to fuck it up yet again resulting in me being stuck with my Note with non-working stylus and Jelly Bean Cyanogenmod onboard. I wish Nokia or HTC did such a nice phablet as the Note but without stylus so that I wouldn't lose anything when upgrading to custom ROM like Cyanogenmod. My ideal phone doesn't exist yet as you can see. They all suck just in different areas. BB sucks with ancient OS, WP sucks in shitty old hardware with tons of stupid limitations, iOS sucks because of ugly screen and stupid glass on the back, and Android sucks because of ugly laggy UI and lack of timely updates if you are not using Nexus brand hardware. We'll see if they make a 5" 1280x768 phablet with WP8, maybe this one will be without all these disadvantages.

RE: Better then fines
By retrospooty on 7/19/2012 6:43:59 PM , Rating: 2
"We'll see if they make a 5" 1280x768 phablet with WP8, maybe this one will be without all these disadvantages."

I am sure you'll find something that sucks about it. :)

RE: Better then fines
By Pirks on 7/19/2012 7:04:07 PM , Rating: 2
Hey I know already what sucks about it - no high end 3D games like Infinity Blade or Dark Meadow.But this is something that could be fixed in future, unlike my non-working stylus in Jelly Bean.

RE: Better then fines
By retrospooty on 7/19/2012 8:17:00 PM , Rating: 2
Sounds like your only option is to get over yourself.

RE: Better then fines
By Pirks on 7/19/2012 8:34:08 PM , Rating: 2
The 3D game developers for WP8 will do it for me

RE: Better then fines
By Cheesew1z69 on 7/20/2012 7:34:41 PM , Rating: 2
My S3 is blistering fast, and what a screen! :O

RE: Better then fines
By jabber on 7/20/2012 7:28:00 AM , Rating: 2
If you are struggling with how to use your Galaxy Note then maybe you should ask someone how to use it.

Folks are usually happy to help old folk on how to use the latest tech. It can be a struggle getting to grips with technology. I'm quite impressed you've managed to get to grips with posting on a forum Well Done!

Just don't be shy to ask.

RE: Better then fines
By Pirks on 7/20/2012 4:16:25 PM , Rating: 2
get lost jabber boy :P

RE: Better then fines
By jabber on 7/21/2012 4:34:35 AM , Rating: 2
Oh look everyone he's lashing out cos he's embarrassed!

No need to be we all had to start somewhere.

RE: Better then fines
By polishvendetta on 7/20/2012 8:51:26 AM , Rating: 2
Windows Phone 7 always felt like just marketing to me. I may have this wrong but it seemed like they built a pc OS and a phone OS seperately but jsut branded them together to drum up sales for one or the other.

Windows 8 seems to be a cohesive initiative to dominate PC, tablet, console, and phone marketspaces. And thats exactly how it should be. I want an ecosystem where my phone syncs with everything, my tablet syncs with everything, my pc shares everything seamlessly between any of my devices. I have high hopes.

RE: Better then fines
By Onimuto on 7/18/2012 7:06:16 PM , Rating: 2
Why so horrible? people like you and tony make me shy away from these sites. To know there are insane Fans of companies.I hold loyalty to no COMPANY and never will. Who ever makes the best at the time of my purchase will get my money. Like AMD did during the x64 k-8 days and intel now does till AMD makes a comeback.
His x86 comparison is right on. You don't like it because you are so obsessed with a company you are beyond help.
Example of what apple does. Apple decides to sell tires. apple Decides to make tires out of Shit. Apple cant compete again Michelin, Goodyear, and bridgestone , Apple patents the shape of tire and goes to court suing the completion.
Bad example i guess but round about. It would be the same as bridgestone suing bf good-wrench for making a round tire. list could go on and on. From fishing poles to a End Wrench. Companies with faith in their products dont sue people into oblivion. They make the product they know will sell. And if another company comes along and makes it better < innovation > then the original company needs to get off its ass and out innovate.

RE: Better then fines
By Shane914 on 7/19/2012 1:03:33 PM , Rating: 1
"Horrible examples. If you want to use that example, maybe Samsung should be labeling their tablets as "Apple" compatible since that's what most PC manufactures advertised their systems as (IBM compatible) back in the day. Obviously Samsung can't do that as they aren't compatible."

Mr. Burton, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

RE: Better then fines
By impinchi on 7/20/2012 8:06:27 AM , Rating: 1
"Samsung is not offering a competitive product, they are offering an Apple knock-off product"

Please read the article, the UK courts disagree


RE: Better then fines
By vXv on 7/18/2012 6:12:39 PM , Rating: 2
Yes but where is your point? Just being the first (yes there have been other tablet computers in the market before the ipad but lets ignore that for now) does not grant you a monopoly.

The competition will follow you have to keep innovating or adjust your prices to stay in that market. If you fail to do so you are doomed and others will take the position you once had. That's how the free market works.

Going to courts and try to ban the competition does neither fall in the the "keep innovating" neither in the "adjust your prices" category.

RE: Better then fines
By BifurcatedBoat on 7/18/2012 6:46:09 PM , Rating: 2
As others have said, I would be a lot more sympathetic toward Apple if the stuff they made had never been done before. If they were an R&D type company, it would make more sense.

But that's not what they do. They take someone else's ideas, improve the usability slightly, and put them in a slightly shinier package. Then they make everyone aware of what they've done, and market it a way that's appealing to the masses. I don't have a problem with that. In fact, if that was all they did, I would be grateful that they are able to popularize new categories of gadgets so they're more readily available for everyone.

What I do have a problem with is Apple trying to sue the stuffing out of other companies for doing the same types of things that they do. For that reason, I'll never buy another Apple product again.

RE: Better then fines
By thefrozentin on 7/19/2012 1:57:21 PM , Rating: 1
Actually, in 1988, Picard introduced the PADD. So whats your point?

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