BMW Officially Axes Manual Transmission in Next M5
June 21, 2012 9:45 AM
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Original M5 and current M5
M5 loses US only six-speed manual option
Many auto enthusiasts have had high hopes for BMW and manual transmissions after a patent application for the carmaker surfaced showing a
transmission was in the works. That transmission may still make it to the streets in some BMWs, but it won't be in the future BMW M5.
BMW has gone "official", saying that the next generation M5 will not be engineered with a manual transmission. BMW goes a little further with M division head, Albert Biermann, saying it's not cost-effective given the manual's low take rate. The upside is the more enthusiast focused M3 will continue to offer a manual transmission.
"Last year, maybe 15-20 percent of our M5s in the U.S. were manuals and maybe this year it will be 15 percent. It's declining," Biermann warned. "The trouble is that nobody wants it in Europe or anywhere else, so this will be the last time we do it, even for the hard-core U.S. buyers."
The current M5 offers a six-speed manual transmission alongside a no-cost option for a seven-speed double-clutch unit that shifts with paddles. BMW says offering the six-speed manual was very expensive.
"We just can't justify it anymore. It's a no-cost option, but it's been very difficult to do."
"Theoretically the stick is cheaper, but it's very low volumes and we have to strengthen everything in the gearbox and find space for the shifter and another pedal, so it doesn't work out cheaper."
The six-speed manual in the M5 has only been available in the U.S.
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RE: The problem isnt the car
6/21/2012 3:27:04 PM
In all your years of "almost" being hit my bmw's you aren't mentioning that you ever got hit? Maybe it's because those bmw's can actually pull off the lane change in front of you without a problem..
I've actually been hit by 2 Prius's one of which was a Beverly hills taxi so which sounds worse? Almost (almost from your pov anyway) being hit by a fast car, or being hit twice by a slow car?
I live in Los Angeles by the way and drive in the San fernando valley and surrounding often, nearly everyone I know has a new sports car not to mention those I don't know and they all drive like you guys claim BMW drivers drive; with a sense of urgency and feel safe doing so being they are in a capable vehicle. My 3 close friends all have 2012 C63's (lol) and they drive more aggressively than most BMW drivers I've seen, but they can do it. It not their fault you freak out when someone faster goes around you.
RE: The problem isnt the car
6/21/2012 9:13:13 PM
Its the persons reaction to the BWM that prevents it from happening. I dont freak out but I question the idiot for why they need to cut it so close and I'm muscle bound enough to make him eat whatever part of the car I choose.
Its true they are great cars and they can pull that lane change off. But should they? Because the car fits doesn't mean you should change the lane because its not moving fast enough for you. They do it at the dumbest moments it seems they dont plan ahead there is no open road if they jump ahead its just another car Im stuck behind that the millions of us are stuck behind so they cut off and tailgate in traffic and get literally nowhere out of it. Its pathetic driving more than real driving.
What do you do when a Prius hits you does it even leave a mark?
Ive been hit by a taxi before in NY worst drivers or because they drive all day they are bound to hit something eventually?
A C63 is a different type of person to me than a BMW driver. A BMW driver wishes he was the C63 driver. Most BMW drivers are probably leasing. Different worlds there.
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