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Original M5 and current M5  (Source: Insideline)
M5 loses US only six-speed manual option

Many auto enthusiasts have had high hopes for BMW and manual transmissions after a patent application for the carmaker surfaced showing a seven-speed manual transmission was in the works. That transmission may still make it to the streets in some BMWs, but it won't be in the future BMW M5.
 
BMW has gone "official", saying that the next generation M5 will not be engineered with a manual transmission. BMW goes a little further with M division head, Albert Biermann, saying it's not cost-effective given the manual's low take rate. The upside is the more enthusiast focused M3 will continue to offer a manual transmission.
 
"Last year, maybe 15-20 percent of our M5s in the U.S. were manuals and maybe this year it will be 15 percent. It's declining," Biermann warned. "The trouble is that nobody wants it in Europe or anywhere else, so this will be the last time we do it, even for the hard-core U.S. buyers."
 
The current M5 offers a six-speed manual transmission alongside a no-cost option for a seven-speed double-clutch unit that shifts with paddles. BMW says offering the six-speed manual was very expensive.
 
"We just can't justify it anymore. It's a no-cost option, but it's been very difficult to do."
 
"Theoretically the stick is cheaper, but it's very low volumes and we have to strengthen everything in the gearbox and find space for the shifter and another pedal, so it doesn't work out cheaper."
 
The six-speed manual in the M5 has only been available in the U.S.

Source: Insideline



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RE: The problem isnt the car
By sigmatau on 6/21/2012 12:18:31 PM , Rating: 5
You know what's worse than the BMW driver stereotype you came up with are drivers like you.

Let me guess, you sit in the left lane completly oblivious to the world around you. Does the left lane make you feel safe? Is it the fact that you only have to worry about one lane next to you that people sit there not bothering to move over when someone is driving faster than they are?

Why do people pass you on the right? Is it because you have some idiot in the left lane doing what I mentioned above? Blame them, not the one that doesn't want to wait 10 minutes for you to move 10 feet relative to the traffic in the next lane.

Why do you allow anyone to get up to and tailgate you? It's one thing if it is one lane of travel, but it is an entirely different thing when you have more than one lane of travel. Move the FK over! I drive faster than most, and if someone is zooming on my rear, I move over way before they get to me. This is common curtesy.

It's not the BMW driver but the American driving culture in general. If you think it's ok for someone to be on their cell phone going 5 mph slower than all other traffic and sit in the left lane, then you should not ever post here again about driving as you have no clue.

I cannot stand an idiot slow driver that sits in the left lane. There are reasons why people drive aggressive. My state has an aggressive driver law. I think it is the dumbest thing ever. They should have a passive aggressive law. That would cover about 90% of drivers. My state would be rich.

Oh, and don't get me started on stupid tracter trailer drivers that jump in the right lane just as you are about to pass them on an incline and then take 5 minutes to pass the car. Now that is epic stupid.


RE: The problem isnt the car
By Pneumothorax on 6/21/2012 12:24:19 PM , Rating: 2
I drive 200 miles a day so I see plenty of these twats on the road. They seem oblivous, but it needs much concentration for these idiots to drive within 0.1 mph of the car on their right for MILES AND MILES !!!!!!!!!!!!!


RE: The problem isnt the car
By Mitch101 on 6/21/2012 1:22:10 PM , Rating: 2
How in the world did you come up with my driving habits from my post? LOL.

I would consider myself an aggressive driver being used to driving in NJ/NY you have to be if your going to get anywhere.

I do agree with the rest of your posting on the left lane hungers who don't feel the need to move right when faster traffic is approaching. No disagreement there

In my years of driving Ive had many more BMW drivers come close to taking the paint off my bumpers than any other car and its almost a daily occurrence that I can witness this habit.


RE: The problem isnt the car
By BillyBatson on 6/21/2012 3:27:04 PM , Rating: 2
In all your years of "almost" being hit my bmw's you aren't mentioning that you ever got hit? Maybe it's because those bmw's can actually pull off the lane change in front of you without a problem..
I've actually been hit by 2 Prius's one of which was a Beverly hills taxi so which sounds worse? Almost (almost from your pov anyway) being hit by a fast car, or being hit twice by a slow car?

I live in Los Angeles by the way and drive in the San fernando valley and surrounding often, nearly everyone I know has a new sports car not to mention those I don't know and they all drive like you guys claim BMW drivers drive; with a sense of urgency and feel safe doing so being they are in a capable vehicle. My 3 close friends all have 2012 C63's (lol) and they drive more aggressively than most BMW drivers I've seen, but they can do it. It not their fault you freak out when someone faster goes around you.


RE: The problem isnt the car
By Mitch101 on 6/21/2012 9:13:13 PM , Rating: 2
Its the persons reaction to the BWM that prevents it from happening. I dont freak out but I question the idiot for why they need to cut it so close and I'm muscle bound enough to make him eat whatever part of the car I choose.

Its true they are great cars and they can pull that lane change off. But should they? Because the car fits doesn't mean you should change the lane because its not moving fast enough for you. They do it at the dumbest moments it seems they dont plan ahead there is no open road if they jump ahead its just another car Im stuck behind that the millions of us are stuck behind so they cut off and tailgate in traffic and get literally nowhere out of it. Its pathetic driving more than real driving.

What do you do when a Prius hits you does it even leave a mark?

Ive been hit by a taxi before in NY worst drivers or because they drive all day they are bound to hit something eventually?

A C63 is a different type of person to me than a BMW driver. A BMW driver wishes he was the C63 driver. Most BMW drivers are probably leasing. Different worlds there.


RE: The problem isnt the car
By Reclaimer77 on 6/21/2012 3:36:56 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I would consider myself an aggressive driver being used to driving in NJ/NY you have to be if your going to get anywhere.


If you were truly an aggressive driver you wouldn't be trying to make that argument in the first place. Maybe you should read your posts and try to see how they come off. They come off like a passive timid driver complaining about aggressive ones. You even tried backing this up with hilarious "surveys" about what other scared slow drivers like yourself think about BMW owners.


RE: The problem isnt the car
By Mitch101 on 6/21/2012 8:54:31 PM , Rating: 3
You going to follow every one of my posts Psycho Droid?

Ill give you the better car and still whip your pansy ass why because you post what a 1000 a day here? I bet you would need a BMW to move your fat ass half as fast as a Prius that is if you can fit in one.

What I see with BMW drivers is they don't plan ahead with their driving they are 80MPH look at me and box their dumb asses in every time. Great job cutting off two people and now were passing you because if you noticed half the vehicles in front you then you would know who ahead is the one jamming everyone up.


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