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Current Windows Phone 7.x users will have to make do with Windows Phone 7.8

Microsoft may be down in the single-digits when it comes to worldwide smartphone market share, but the company is not going to sit by on the sidelines while the competition from Apple and Google pass it by. Today at the Windows Phone Summit, Microsoft announced the follow-up to Windows Phone 7.5 -- Windows Phone 8.

While Windows Phone 7.x is based on Windows CE, Windows Phone 8 shares its NT kernel with PC-oriented Windows 8 operating system. Thanks to the shared codebase, developers won't have to do "double duty" developing programs for Windows Phone 8 and Windows 8.

Joe Belfiore, corporate vice president of Windows Phone, introduces Windows Phone 8
Windows Phone 8 will support dual-core processor at launch, and quad-core support will come at a later date (Windows Phone 8 can theoretically support up to 64 cores
). In addition, Windows Phone 8 will support three screen resolutions: 800x480, 1280x768, and 1280x720. Although we question the need for both of the latter screen resolutions, we'll give Microsoft the benefit of the doubt on this one.

Other features include microSD support for removable storage (movies, videos, photos, apps), VoIP/Skype integration, in-app purchases, Internet Explorer 10 (complete with anti-phising technology), native NFC support, and a mobile Wallet Hub to store credit/debit cards, and deals/offers, (it sounds quite a bit like Apple's Passbook from iOS 6). Nokia's NAVTEQ mapping technology will also be built-in to Windows Phone 8 including offline maps. Another new feature, Tap+Send, allows users to "bump" phones to share data. However, we've seen this functionality before in Android devices.

Customizable tiles in Windows Phone 8
The biggest change announced is a revamp of the Start screen and the Live Tiles system. Microsoft is now giving users the ability to completely control the Start screen and resize tiles to make their phones more personal. For example, if the Pictures hub is most important to you, you can resize the tile to make is take a huge portion of your screen while at the same time reducing the size of tiles that don't interest you as much.

Microsoft also made it official that current smartphones running Windows Phone 7.x will not be getting an upgrade to Windows Phone 8. While some functionality will make its way into Windows Phone 7.8 (like the new customizable Start screen), you'll have to purchase a brand new smartphone to get the full Windows Phone 8 experience.

Source: Microsoft

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RE: Finally!
By JasonMick on 6/20/2012 2:23:32 PM , Rating: 1
It is always such a pain developing programs for that which you are developing programs for!

Sorry, it's just a hilarious typo to me, gave me a smile.
But on that topic, how is that worse than having to develop for Android where you have like 3+ versions, several common screen sizes, and a host of other variables.

In terms of SDK, I doubt that much will change aside from XAML/Silverlight "purdy fonts" (I know, a technical term, right?) and such stuff that many WinPhone developers don't even bother with anyways as it takes so much work. Maybe some added shader support in WinPhone8, but nothing world-ending.

RE: Finally!
By Mitch101 on 6/20/2012 2:37:23 PM , Rating: 1
Flurry: Windows Phone app development catching up to Android

Flurry credits mounting developer interest in Windows Phone to a number of factors, including continued frustration over Android fragmentation, concern for increasing competition on iOS and dwindling faith in BlackBerry. "Whatever the reason, it's clear that Microsoft still knows how to attract third-party developer support," Farago adds. "Flurry expects Microsoft to make continued headway over the course of 2012."

RE: Finally!
By Reclaimer77 on 6/20/2012 3:02:32 PM , Rating: 1
Windows Phone has been "catching up" for three years now. That's all we hear, how they are catching up.

Of course you conveniently leave out the fact that the "catching up" only started to happen when Microsoft decided to directly pay app developers because there wasn't enough interest in the platform. You're making it sound like a grass roots effort based on popularity and true frustration with Android. Do you mean to tell lies, or just didn't know MS was paying for app development?

RE: Finally!
By JasonMick on 6/20/2012 3:13:11 PM , Rating: 1
Windows Phone has been "catching up" for three years now. That's all we hear, how they are catching up.
Hmm, Android was announced in 2007, didn't catch up to Apple in terms of market share until 2010... so what's the big deal?

I'm not saying Microsoft is going to be as dominant as Android, but clearly they're doing something right, given those numbers... you have to give them a little bit of credit Reclaimer.

Even if you don't like the platform for whatever reason, can't you at least agree that more competition is better, as it will drive Android and Apple to innovate more?

RE: Finally!
By Reclaimer77 on 6/20/2012 3:29:40 PM , Rating: 1
MS's idea of "competing" is much like Apples. Sue or license the competition away. So yes, I WOULD like to see more competition, but that's not really how it seems to be going down.

What MS did with their patent licensing is almost gangsterism. Tell manufacturers they're infringing and have to pay $10-20 PER headset sale without telling them specifically what the offense is. Then only reveal it to them when they agree to pay and force them to agree to not disclose it? That's racketeering, it's just wrong.

Hell Microsoft makes more money from Android phone sales than their own! Competition at it's finest I guess?

RE: Finally!
By JasonMick on 6/20/2012 4:34:46 PM , Rating: 1
What MS did with their patent licensing is almost gangsterism. Tell manufacturers they're infringing and have to pay $10-20 PER headset sale without telling them specifically what the offense is. Then only reveal it to them when they agree to pay and force them to agree to not disclose it? That's racketeering, it's just wrong.
I agree with you there, but that's the way our glorious patent system works. I blame politicians as much as Microsoft. How can you really fault a company for maximizing its profits?

Face it -- that's the beauty and ugliness of capitalism -- a for-profit company will fully exploit every single loophole and legal technicality it can to get an advantage -- fair or unfair. It doesn't matter how many workers get stomped on, how anticompetitive it is, how many rivals die. As long as it increases sales, at the end of the day, Microsoft and the majority of other for-profit companies will go for it.

We debated endlessly about tax dodging (at the expense of small businesses who can't tax dodge) and you defended Apple, Microsoft, et al. on that. You now condemn them, but really the principal is the same -- companies exploiting legal loopholes to the detriment of others.

I myself am at least consistent in that I find both offenses unsavory. Just because something satisfy profit-at-any cost principals of corporatism, doesn't make ti right.

That said, I still would argue all that aside Microsoft has done a lot more to innovate OS-wise than Apple. Apple drove the quality of core apps and battery life a long ways forward in 2007, and the rest of the pack in many ways only caught up in 2010, 2011. But it has stalled since innovation wise, where Microsoft continues to innovate.

RE: Finally!
By Paj on 6/21/2012 7:39:57 AM , Rating: 2
Great points. Whatever system you love, you gotta take the faults that come with it.

RE: Finally!
By Reclaimer77 on 6/21/12, Rating: 0
RE: Finally!
By geddarkstorm on 6/20/2012 3:43:55 PM , Rating: 1
Well, from what I understand of Android, it's all Java based anyways (hence the need for Dalvik); which means development is the same whatever ones version. Now, that's only true in so far as what the kernel supports, but WP8 is a different kernel from WP7, so that same issue applies; but even more so (linux kernels are still linux kernels, and the jump from the 2.x to 3.x wasn't all that big, mostly just bug fixes). And it WP8's kernel doesn't seem to be -completely- identical to Windows 8... otherwise quad core support would be there immediately. (I think they should have just used the straight up Windows RT. Makes no sense they didn't.)

I dunno, some things Microsoft is telling us just don't add up, but I never said anything was worst or better (and there's huge advantages to having unified app support scaling up the entire Windows 8 product line; it's a brilliant idea), just that the typo in the original article was awesomely fun.

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