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The fight over E15 is not over yet

The Environmental Protection Agency has given the approval for retailers to sell 15% ethanol blended fuel. The fuel we purchase at most gas stations around the country today already has 10% ethanol mixed in. The EPA and other supporters of the plan have wanted to add an additional 5% ethanol to the fuel mix for cars built after 2001.
 
"Today, the last significant federal hurdle has been cleared to allow consumers to buy fuel containing up to 15 percent ethanol (E15)," said Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack. "This gets us one step closer to giving the American consumer a real choice at the pump. The public has a right to choose between imported oil and home-grown energy and today’s action by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) advances that goal."
 
The goal of the plan is to help reduce the dependence on foreign oil by using ethanol derived from corn.
 
“In the eyes of the federal government, E15 is a legal fuel for sale to cars, pickups, and SUVs made since 2001,” said RFA President and CEO Bob Dinneen. “With all i’s dotted and t’s crossed as far as EPA is concerned, our undivided focus will turn to addressing state regulatory issues, identifying retailers wishing to offer E15, and paving the way to greater use of domestically produced ethanol."
 
There are still other issues that have to be overcome before E15 makes it to pumps. These issues include pending litigation and threats from Washington. The U.S. House of Representatives has previously threatened to block the EPA's plans to force E15 sales at stations around the country. Many still argue that the use of E15 could cause millions of dollars in damage to engines in vehicles around the country.
 
One of the organizations opposing the rollout of E15 is the Outdoor Power Equipment Institute or OPEI. According to OPEI, government tests show that E15 is harmful to outdoor power equipment, boats, marine engines, and other non-road engine products. Adding an additional option at the pump could confuse consumers leading to misfueling and damage of engines according to OPEI.
 
"For the first time in American history, fuel used for some automobiles may no longer safe for any non-road products. It may, in fact, destroy or damage generators, chain saws, utility vehicles, lawn mowers, boats and marine engines, snowmobiles, motorcycles, ATVs, and more," says Kris Kiser, President and CEO of the Outdoor Power Equipment Institute, one of the industry groups who have been sending warnings to the federal government about E15.
 
Keiser added, "[The] EPA purports to educate tens of millions of Americans using hundreds of millions of engine products, asserting it will educate these users with a 3 inch by 3 inch pump label. It's frighteningly inadequate."
 
Some major automakers also argue E15 could harm engines in cars and trucks as well.

Sources: Autoblog, Wisconsin Ag Connection



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Ethanol
By 96suzuki on 6/19/2012 11:06:17 AM , Rating: 4
The problem with ethanol is that it is very corrosive. It will eat away seals, lines and gas tanks made of metal, copper, plastic and fiberglass. In order to use ethanol fuel lines would have to be made of stainless steel. Fuel tanks made of plastic will eventually swell causing the tank to leak. Ducati has already recalled and replaced many fuel tanks on their brand of motorcycles from the effects of ethanol. Ethanol also has the ability to whisk moisture right out of the air. This is you they tell you not to use it in boats or any kind of marine applications. This is the same as dry gas you would place in your tank to disperse the water in your fuel. The shelf life of ethanol based gas is also allot less than regular gas and you have to be careful about phase separation. Phase separation is when the moisture overcomes the ethanol and starts to separation from the fuel causing it to cloud and eventually rust your fuel system. Small engines are not made to dissipate the heat generated from the ethanol. This is why you SHOULD NOT use this shit in small engines. Read your user manual in your car... I bet under the fuel section it says not to use gasohol!!! And most automobile manufactures will tell you if you use ethanol it will void your warranty. Ethanol is also way more expensive to produce than gasoline. It cannot be transported by pipeline because of its corrosiveness so it needs to be transported by rail tanker and trucks. I urge everyone to read as much as you can on the effects of ethanol. I have been a mechanic for over 20 years and have seen the effects. YouTube is a great source for info in ethanol as one mechanic place a jar of gasoline in front of a fan and you can see the moisture collect inside the jar just from the fan blowing on it. It can also collect moisture from filling up in the winter or in the summer. Filling up in the winter, the gasoline is warmer since it is under ground and the air temperature is colder. This causes the moisture to condense in your tank and the ethanol pulls it in. Same effect in the summer, the gas is cooler under ground and the air is warmer. I can go on for hours on the effects of ethanol, this is why I urge everyone to educate your self about this crap!!!! Ethanol is also less efficient than gasoline and studies shown it produces less power that gasoline and decreases your fuel economy by as much as 40%!!! So is it really decreasing foreign oil dependency????Why is the EPA forcing Ethanol based gas on us when they know of the problems???? BECAUSE THEY DON'T CARE!!!!
Take a look at the proposed E15 Label. Notice the part on the bottom about small engines?
http://www.epa.gov/otaq/regs/fuels/additive/e15/e1...
This will show the effect of ethanol on a carburetor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtqWT8ZfG5Y
Ethanol collecting water in a jar
http://youtu.be/YeCyFxoWPpo
Google effects of ethanol
http://www.google.com/search?sugexp=chrome,mod=3&s...
Ethanol decreases mileage
http://www.google.com/search?aq=0&oq=ethanol+decre...




RE: Ethanol
By C'DaleRider on 6/19/12, Rating: -1
RE: Ethanol
By 96suzuki on 6/19/12, Rating: 0
RE: Ethanol
By superflex on 6/20/2012 10:34:34 AM , Rating: 1
'86 LeBaron. Somebody's getting laid tonight.


RE: Ethanol
By Nutzo on 6/19/2012 1:43:39 PM , Rating: 2
But just think of all the extra gas that will be sold and all the extra taxes they will collect due to the much lower milage cars get with ethanol.


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