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Change may be less extreme than some expected, but may leave some unhappy campers

You don't put desktop in the corner.

That sentiment is at the heart of much of Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) faithful’s increasing frustration with Windows 8.  Loyal Windows blogger Paul Thurrott went as far as to compare it to the much loathed Windows ME ("Millennium Edition").  Others have been more charitable, praising its strong touch support.  And manufacturers seem to be on board with Microsoft's message, at least, showing of a slew of hybrid notebooks and tablets [1][2][3].

When word leaked that Microsoft had snipped out the code that allowed the Start Menu to be re-enabled on the desktop via third-party hacks, many commenters flipped out and let their rage be known.  They weren't much happier when they heard that the Aero UI theme found in Windows Vista and Windows 7 desktops would be replaced by a Metro UI alternative.  (The current publicly available Release Preview retains the Aero UI theme.)

So how bad (or good) is the new Metro desktop makeover? Judge for yourself from these screenshots from WinUnleaked.

Windows 8 Metro Desktop

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Windows 8 Metro Desktop
(Click any image to enlarge) [Images Source: WindowsUnleaked]

While there's no real reason to doubt the authenticity of these shots, bear in mind that the leaked OS is a pre-RTM (release to manufacturing/marketing) build.  Even the poster "canouna" warns, "Please keep in mind this is not the FINAL theme."

Some people have already (for better or worse) drawn comparisons between the Metro theme and the Windows XP Water Color theme:

XP Water Color
 [Image Source: "The Rock"/WindowsUnleaked]

Of course, the bad news is that Microsoft appears to be locking the Desktop to Metro UI, though there's faint hope that it might leave in legacy code allowing transparency to be re-enabled.  Desktop Windows Manager (DWM) is still running on the test builds, but there's no telling if it will contain the Aero code any more.  Microsoft has stated before that Aero wastes battery life and consumes extra processing power versus the cleaner Metro UI, so that may be justification in Microsoft's mind for the switch.

As far as further changes to the desktop, the top two rumors are that Microsoft may complete the Metro makeover with new Metro-styled icons.  A second rumor is that the Office-esque "Ribbon" will be added to more of the menus, as this was the case in certain early builds.

So what do you think?  Is the Metro desktop in its current form a stud or a dud?

Source: WindowsUnleaked

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RE: Looks like...
By quiksilvr on 6/14/2012 12:03:01 PM , Rating: 0
Red Hat Enterprise. If you want true server stability and reliability in the enterprise sector, you use Red Hat, chop off the GUI and run everything you need on terminal and no OS does that better than Red Hat.

Sure you can use Windows Core, but you lose a lot of functionality in the process, especially for software that's reliant on .NET Framework. Linux doesn't have these limitations.

RE: Looks like...
By retrospooty on 6/14/2012 12:16:28 PM , Rating: 2
LOL... OK, call me when the accounting,shop floor, CRM, inventory, logistics, reverse logistics, supply chain software is ready for business and supported by staff at Red Hat all in a working Ecosystem. Its not even close to being close. It's not even being thought about, much less being developed.

RE: Looks like...
By vignyan on 6/14/2012 12:22:58 PM , Rating: 2
Those are not the only applications.
BTW, SAP and oracle software run on linux (only, in some cases). SAP and oracle support their software - not microsoft. Why would Red-hat provide support for third party applications. :P

RE: Looks like...
By retrospooty on 6/14/2012 12:43:06 PM , Rating: 2
I know, there are many other examples, but they are only small examples that account for one small piece. My point is that MS has the entire enterprise ecosystem that the whole world runs off. Including every factory that makes every Mac and iPhone. If Linux went away and all software was deleted , a few companies would have to scramble to move over to MS. If Apple went away and all products disappeared, alot of people would have to find new toys. If MS went away and all software was gone, the entire world would grind to a halt. All I am saying is you can hate on them all you want, but no-one else has ever come close to thier accomplishments. No-one else has even come remotely close. It is such a huge accomplishment that as of today no-one else has even tried. Its just too big of a hill to climb.

RE: Looks like...
By Argon18 on 6/14/2012 5:29:25 PM , Rating: 5
No, Microsoft does not have "the entire enterprise ecosystem that the whole world runs off".

Microsoft has nothing in the Mission critical space. Every stock exchange in the world runs on Tandem NonStop architecture (now owned by HP). 70% of the power generation in the US (and 100% of the nuclear power generation in the US) also runs on Tandem NonStop. The big financial houses (like AIG, etc) all run AIX for their critical transaction processing. VISA and Mastercard also use AIX for all their processing.

And then there's Mainframe. S/390, AS/400, etc. Mainframe is still a multi $Billion dollar business for IBM, (and to a lesser extent, HP).

Microsoft owns the desktop and office apps. I'll give you that. And corporate email (Exchange). But that's really all they own, which is a pretty small slice of the global data processing pie.

RE: Looks like...
By zerocks on 6/14/2012 7:59:24 PM , Rating: 5
The worlds real situation is as follows:
If Microsoft/Windows died and became unusable, a huge percentage of the worlds industries would stop and need an alternative.
If Linux/Unix/whatever distro's died and became unusable, a huge percentage of the worlds industries would stop and need an alternative.
If Mac/OSx died and became unusable, a small percentage of the people would buy a cheaper computer and complain about it not being as pretty.

RE: Looks like...
By retrospooty on 6/15/2012 7:55:32 AM , Rating: 3
Try not to be so literal. I didnt say MS is everything to all and no other systems exist. I am saying its the one with the complete package a to z. Noone else has ever done that, nor have they even tried. There isnt even a close 2nd.

RE: Looks like...
By sbtech on 6/14/2012 3:07:39 PM , Rating: 2
No need to call. Unless you want us to call you to get some sense in your head before you make these silly posts.

None of these software will be supported by Red Hat staff. Neither will they be supported by Microsoft, unless we are specifically considering Microsoft Dynamics.

ERP software that you are talking about will be supported by the respective ERP vendors.

Please think before you post.

RE: Looks like...
By retrospooty on 6/14/2012 3:45:21 PM , Rating: 2
"Please think before you post."

You arent grasping what I am talking about here. Read up some on how IT works and read the rest of this thread to gain a clue before you start insulting people.

RE: Looks like...
By sbtech on 6/14/2012 3:52:36 PM , Rating: 3
First I apologize. You are correct, my tone was completely uncalled for. Had a stressful day, but I should have been objective. I am sorry.

But the objective part of the post (buried under the rest of my stupid tone) remains valid.

RE: Looks like...
By retrospooty on 6/14/2012 3:57:46 PM , Rating: 3
No worries. been there guilty of that myself.

I agree, its not everything in every company, but its the only A to Z solution and it is running most things in most companies. That is all I was trying to say. Linux/Unix servers have their place, in the IT world, but MS owns it.

RE: Looks like...
By Taft12 on 6/14/2012 3:55:59 PM , Rating: 4
This obviously don't apply to your employer, but the applications at mine run on Linux (some UNIX) servers for every single one of those, save accounting.

Downtime on any is measured in millions of dollars per hour. Can't afford to run any of them on Windows.

RE: Looks like...
By retrospooty on 6/14/2012 3:50:22 PM , Rating: 3
OF course not everything at every company, but in general overall, most of the world's business runs off Windows and Windows servers. I would be pretty shocked if your company isnt running a bunch on Windows server, MS exchange etc etc as well... the end users are also likely accessing those apps from Windows workstations. If not, your company is an extreme rarity.

RE: Looks like...
By Cerin218 on 6/14/12, Rating: 0
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