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Apple brings new Maps app with turn-by-turn navigation, but it's limited to iPhone 4S, iPad 2, and newer devices.

Apple first introduced the world to the iPhone Operating System -- now known as iOS -- back in early 2007. At the time, the operating system was a breath of fresh air in the smartphone space. Over the years, the iOS has grown to encompass not only the iPhone, but also the iPod touch, iPad, and Apple TV. 350 million iOS devices have shipped as of March 30, 2012.
 
Five years after its first introduction, Apple is ready to apply a fresh coat of paint to its mobile operating system with iOS 6. Those expecting a drastic UI overhaul are going to be disappointed as the same basic formula that was introduced in 2007 remains. However, Apple has taken steps to make sure that iOS 6 remains fresh and relevant in today's quickly changing smartphone space.
 
While iOS 5 brought a more modern Notifications Center, OTA updates, iMessage, and integrated Twitter support, Apple has a fresh bag of tricks up its sleeve for iOS 6 at this year’s Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC).
 
Siri
Apple has updated Siri with some new functionality. While the first iteration of Siri introduced with the iPhone 4S was somewhat limited in its capabilities, the version included in iOS 6.0 now supports the "New" iPad, can give you sports scores (for example: MLB, NFL, NBA, etc.), and stats on athletes. It has also been integrated with Rotten Tomatoes, Yelp, and OpenTable.

 
Another big addition is the ability to launch apps with Siri. For users that have pages and pages of apps, a voice command of "Play Angry Birds" will launch the app instead of swiping and tapping through screens.
 
Even further integration is being introduced in new automobiles using "Eyes Free". Eyes Free is simply a button placed on a vehicle's steering wheel that allows users to directly access Siri without taking your eyes off the road. Some of the partners include BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Toyota, Honda, and General Motors. Ford is interestingly not on that list, but we're sure they're quite content with MyFord Touch.
 
Facebook
The other big addition to iOS is Facebook integration. Last year saw system-wide integration of Twitter and this year Zuckerberg and his crew are joining the fray. Users simply login from the Settings app, and are then given the ability to share apps, upload pictures, and provide location details to their Facebook page. There is also full integration with the iTunes store so that you can like and share movies, TV shows, and music.


Facebook Integation
 
And to make posting information easier, Apple has added Twitter and Facebook posting buttons to the Notification Center.
 
Phone
Apple is also making some of the most drastic changes to the Phone apps since the iPhone's launch in 2007. Apple now gives you the option to automatically send a text message to a person who is calling you when you can't pick up the phone (say you're in a meeting or at a movie). A simple canned message can be sent, or you can be reminded at a later time to call the person back.


New answering options in the Phone app

A new "Do Not Disturb" option has also been added to Settings that allows your phone to go into stealth mode -- your phone will still accept calls and messages, but your phone will not light up or make sounds/vibrate.
 
Maps
Perhaps the biggest news is that Apple has kicked Google to the curb with respect to its built-in Maps application. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to understand that the Apple-Google relationship has taken a dramatic turn for the worse since the Android operating system debuted. With this in mind, Apple took matters into its own hands by purchasing three mapping companies (Placebase, Poly9, C3 Technologies) to develop an in-house mapping solution for iOS.
 
Maps is now integrated with Yelp, providing 100 million business listings. Apple is also including traffic information including accident reporting using anonymous, real-time crowd-sourcing. In addition, Apple is finally getting onboard with turn-by-turn navigation; something that Google has offered for a few years with Android smartphones. And naturally, Maps is now fully integrated with Siri.

 Turn-by-turn navigation and 3D aerial view in the new Maps app

Maps now includes a "Flyover" mode which displays 3D model of cities from an aerial viewpoint. Again, many of these features are simply catching up to what's been available on the market for quite some time on completing platforms.

And here's the biggest kick to the face of users of older generation iOS devices -- just like Apple's decision to limit Siri to just the iPhone 4S at launch, 3D Flyby and turn-by-turn navigation is limited to just the iPhone 4S and the iPad 2 (and newer) devices:

Some features may not be available in all countries or all areas. Flyover and turn-by-turn navigation will be available only on iPhone 4S and iPad 2 or later. Cellular data charges may apply.
 
Odds and Ends
A few other features that are being added to iOS 6 include FaceTime over a cellular connection and iCloud Tabs, which syncs tabs between all your iOS devices and Macs. Users now have the ability to share Photo Streams. Users can now add pictures and videos into an email message directly from the Mail app instead of first having to initiate a message from the Photos app. Also, users can now “pull to refresh” to get new messages.
 
Passbook allows you to store eTicket information for movies and flights, and also allows you to store gift cards for retailers (i.e. Target, Starbucks).


Passbook
 
Apple also bragged about the fact that they that have an extremely large consumer base with 400 million accounts (making it largest store on the internet). There are over 650,000 apps in the App Store with over 225,000 of them being specifically tailored to the iPad. In total, over 30 billion apps have been downloaded since the App Store was introduced in 2008. As for the developers, Apple says that it has paid out over $5 billion to developers since the App Store’s inception.

Source: Apple



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3GS gets the upgrade. Do you see that Motorola??
By tayb on 6/11/2012 3:06:11 PM , Rating: 5
The 3GS, a phone that will be 4 years/generations old by the time iOS 6 is released, will get this update. My Droid X, released summer 2010 and purchased by me in October 2010, will not get Android 4.0, which was released in October 2011.

Motorola, please take notice. This is pathetic. This is why you won't even get a glance the next time I go phone shopping.




RE: 3GS gets the upgrade. Do you see that Motorola??
By tayb on 6/11/2012 3:38:38 PM , Rating: 2
Who says I do or would? The point is that new features were released with Android updates and Motorola isn't going to push down a newer version of the software. I would rather buy a phone from a company I know will continue supporting my device than a company that will abandon the product as soon as I swipe the card. It's ridiculous. The phone was 18 months old when Android 4 came out.

It's the same thing with other products. I wouldn't buy a notebook from a company if they told me I couldn't upgrade the software at a later date. I especially wouldn't if there were competitors that would allow me to upgrade the software. It's a no brainer.


By lelias2k on 6/11/2012 5:06:04 PM , Rating: 5
That is not his point at all.

I got my Droid 3 last August and I am stuck with 2.3.4 unless I do it on my own and risk screwing something up, being left off with my warranty void and possibly a brick. Meanwhile, Apple makes it easy for older devices to get upgraded.

This is what Apple haters don't get: 99% of people out there won't go through the troubles it takes to upgrade the OS in our situation.


By Aloonatic on 6/12/2012 7:21:01 AM , Rating: 2
That's the point. The OP is taking control, and wont be buying a Motorola again, and if that's his reason, then he'll not be buying an Android phone again as most manufacturers are as bad as each other in that respect. However, Android users who say just use an ROM from wherever need to realise that the vast majority of people don;t want to do this, even technical people, and it's a big advantage for Apple in the market.

I do agree tho, buy a phone now for what it can do now. In the early days of android I might have had some sympathy with people who expected updates, but I think that people should have realised by now that that's not how the android handset business model works.

I have an Xperia S, and it's OK. It is supposed to get a v4 update at some stage, but I'll be more pleasantly surprised if it does, rather than expecting it to happen. It does what I need it too, but to be honest, so would most handsets with most OSs on.

At any rate, IMHO, getting all upset about Android updates is a bit odd too. There's usually little reason to get excited about them in reality. Even the great 2.1 to 2.2 (I think it was) update that was supposed to make apps run much faster didn't really do that much in reality. Android updates rarely bring anything that actually is useful/great anyway. I think that the wi-fi hotspot thing has been the most useful update that I've found, but other than that I can't really think of anything that's made me think wow, that was worth it.

To be honest, I'm just waiting for my next contract renewal to coincide with a decent WP7 handest to be come available on my network, as I never seem to have any luck there, with the Lumia 900 being something that I might have gone for coming to the UK just a little too late :(


By retrospooty on 6/12/2012 10:27:55 AM , Rating: 1
"Android users who say just use an ROM from wherever need to realise that the vast majority of people don;t want to do this, even technical people, and it's a big advantage for Apple in the market."

I dunno about that. I agree that the vast majority of users don't want to deal with a custom/hacked ROM to get an update, but the reason is that the vast majority of users don't care about updates at all. The average non-technical user out there doesn't even bother, and will only get an updatae if it happens automatically. For those that do want it, there is a choice. Android gives you options of all kinds of different types of phones with different assets, but has a limited upgrade path, and iPhone gives you a very good future OS upgrade path, with very limited options of different types of phones.

That is just the way it is. To buy an Android and be angry that an 18 month old phone doesn't get an upgrade is just as useless as buying and iPhone and then being angry that the screen is too small.


By chemist1 on 6/12/2012 3:37:04 AM , Rating: 5
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LOL how are you "stuck"? Stuck with what? Does your phone just stop working if you don't get ICS on it?


It's simple. You're "stuck" in exactly the way you'd be stuck if a PC you bought when, say, Vista was current couldn't be upgraded to Win 7. It of course wouldn't stop working when Win 7 came out, but that's not the point; and trying to make it the point is to throw in a red herring that obscures a legitimate issue: as software improves, will my computing device be able to take advantage of it, or am I limited to what's installed when I bought it? After all, doesn't the future upgradability of a computing device figure importantly into its current value?


By retrospooty on 6/11/2012 5:16:53 PM , Rating: 2
I have a Droid 3 as well. I didn't get all pissed that it didn't get an ICS upgrade. I bought it for the features it had and those features didnt change when ICS was released. I wanted ICS so I took it upon myself to upgrade and I did. If I were not technically inclined, I would have just stayed with 2.3

" Meanwhile, Apple makes it easy for older devices to get upgraded."

Agreed, and that is my point. If you are someone that wants to get an OS upgrade on your older phones and arent technically inclined, or just lack the motivation to do it on your own, then the iPhone is definitely the best option for you. I think we agree. Apple is good with this aspect, and if you want an OS upgrade bead enough to be pissed off about it, then Apple is your best bet.


RE: 3GS gets the upgrade. Do you see that Motorola??
By name99 on 6/11/2012 10:09:38 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
An 18 month old phone is pretty old in this industry.


Really? So you think the article's line about
quote:
And here's the biggest kick to the face of users of older generation iOS devices -- just like Apple's decision to limit Siri to just the iPhone 4S at launch, 3D Flyby and turn-by-turn navigation is limited to just the iPhone 4S and the iPad 2 (and newer) devices:

is stupid?

Let's see how many of your fellow commentators agree. Because I suspect that pretty much all of them hold these two thoughts in their head at the exact same time:
"Android vendors are fine for not upgrading their user base"
"Apple is pure evil for only giving PARTIAL upgrades their (much older) user base"


By V-Money on 6/12/2012 1:26:33 AM , Rating: 1
...or...just maybe...now hear me out...they realize that an 18 month phone isn't that old, but old enough that it is understandable if a company isn't pushing the latest and greatest on it.

On android anything is possible with a simple google search, talk all you want about how hard it is to root a phone, but within half an hour I was running ICS on my Nexus one and I had never rooted a phone before that.

The argument is that current phones are designed for what is out today, and not all of them will get upgraded in a timely fashion or at all. That's the price you pay for having options, in the Apple world you have ~1 phone a year to pick from, if thats what you want then go for it, but believe it or not, there are people that don't want to think differently by owning the same phone as everyone else.

As for not giving them certain features, that is a valid complaint because there is a difference between not bothering to update a phone at all and going through the trouble to update a phone and leaving out features that the phone can support.


By Solandri on 6/12/2012 2:34:32 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
...or...just maybe...now hear me out...they realize that an 18 month phone isn't that old, but old enough that it is understandable if a company isn't pushing the latest and greatest on it.

Normally I'd agree with this if the functionality is marginal on the older hardware. Except Siri is handled entirely server-side. The phone just records what you say and transmits it to Siri's (Apple's) servers which does the processing and comes up with a response. The only reason it's limited to the iPhone 4S is to make people want to buy a new phone. There is no technical reason for it.

Same thing is probably true for 3d flyby and navigation. Yes the 4S has better 3D capabilities. But the 4 is probably good enough for flyby and surely is good enough for navigation. And the 3G has a lower-res screen so its 3D is probably good enough too.

This is a really disturbing trend if you think about it - requiring you to purchase new hardware when older hardware is perfectly capable of running the software. It's the whole reason the PC took over the world - it was (once Compaq reverse engineered the BIOS) generic hardware which would run any software you wanted. No longer were you beholden to the hardware manufacturer for your software. Except Apple is regressing and try to pull people back into that old, failed proprietary hardware vendor-lock model.

I guess the real issue here is that for all the talk about Apple's App Store being bigger than Android's Market, the bottom line is there are no real competitors in iOS' app space for these Apple software products. Playing with custom Android ROMs has taught me that just about all the software there can be replaced or tweaked. The browser, the texting app, the calendar, the picture viewer, the video/music player, maps, heck even the market all have very viable alternatives.


By retrospooty on 6/12/2012 8:34:34 AM , Rating: 2
"Android vendors are fine for not upgrading their user base"
"Apple is pure evil for only giving PARTIAL upgrades their (much older) user base"


No, I think Apple goes above and beyond with upgrades, and that's cool that they do. But the fact is they only have 1 phone out per year and therefore have only a few phones to make the update for. Android makers have tons of phones and believe me, making a ROM on a phone is a huge amount of work. It's not just load the OS and debug a few issues. It takes 1000's and 1000's of man hours to get done.

It's good and bad for both sides. Android's up side is they have options, you can get a small screen, big screen or rediculous huge screem, qwerty kb, removable battery, 4G, low end , high end, and everything in between. Androids downside is you wont get updates too far back. Apple's upside is longer update support, but the downside is you get one phone in one size that doesnt "fit all".


By BSMonitor on 6/11/2012 4:19:41 PM , Rating: 3
This has to be the stupidest argument in the Droid / iOS debate I have ever read.


By quiksilvr on 6/11/2012 3:38:29 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, except it doesn't have Siri, which is a major part of this iOS6 update (and the Maps, especially).


By BSMonitor on 6/11/2012 4:24:20 PM , Rating: 2
Yup, and yet a 4 y/o phone will run any other Apps developed for iOS 6 without compatibility issues.... All by downloading a single version of that App from the store.

Millions of 3GS owners don't have to worry that a certain App will download, install, and not work.. Or crash their phone.. Or loop and kill the battery.. Or.. etc. etc.


RE: 3GS gets the upgrade. Do you see that Motorola??
By Iaiken on 6/11/2012 5:03:46 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
y other Apps developed for iOS 6 without compatibility issues


That's not 100% true. Any app that integrates with features that are not available on that phone, such as Siri. The next time you try to update that app, it simply uninstalls itself because the new version is not compatible and the 3rd party is no longer supporting the old version.

Apple has already made the call that these users are to be left behind, slowly but surely, rather than fragment the OS.


By TakinYourPoints on 6/11/2012 6:35:11 PM , Rating: 2
You're comparing one feature against an entire operating system update.

Are you for real?


By Reclaimer77 on 6/11/2012 6:53:57 PM , Rating: 1
So if you have to buy a phone to get Siri, that's cool. If you have to buy a phone to get a different OS build, that's horrible and SO much worst.

How very logical and unbiased of you...


By TakinYourPoints on 6/11/2012 6:50:47 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
different OS build


Haha, way to downplay the quality of the upgrade. The difference between Gingerbread and ICS is huge. It is worth the upgrade for security and back-end improvements alone.

Again, comparing a substantial OS update with one single feature is ridiculous.

You'd be throwing a fit if Apple dropped OS support on hardware annually (if you want iOS 6, you must buy an iPhone 5!), but they maintain it with 2009 hardware so of course its no big deal.

No double standard at all.


By Reclaimer77 on 6/11/2012 7:09:20 PM , Rating: 1
You still haven't changed the dynamics of this argument. You think it's cool having to buy a phone just to get some app, but a major OS update isn't worth buying a phone for.

quote:
It is worth the upgrade for security and back-end improvements alone.


I agree. So get a phone that can run it. Argument over.

quote:
You'd be throwing a fit if Apple dropped OS support on hardware annually (if you want iOS 6, you must buy an iPhone 5!)


No I wouldn't because I don't buy Apple.

However this would be way worst because you can't load custom OS's on an iPhone. If you want ICS, you CAN put it on your phone yourself. It's easy and safe to do. With Apple, no options.


By TakinYourPoints on 6/11/2012 7:13:41 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I agree. So get a phone that can run it. Argument over.


So you think its cool to have a perfectly capable phone that is well within a 2-year contract that doesn't get upgrades because of carriers dropping the ball, so you buy a new one.

Ok.

quote:
No I wouldn't because I don't buy Apple.


That hasn't stopped you from making a zillion posts on why Apple products are the worst in every thread. Your responses in tech threads are as predictable as your in political threads.

You'd definitely throw a fit.

quote:
However this would be way worst because you can't load custom OS's on an iPhone. With Apple, no options.


No, jailbreaking is actually easy, so easy.


By Reclaimer77 on 6/11/2012 7:31:11 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
So you think its cool to have a perfectly capable phone that is well within a 2-year contract that doesn't get upgrades because of carriers dropping the ball, so you buy a new one.


No I don't think it's "cool". It's just the way it is, and it's not the end of the world. You can put ICS on your phone, you can wait for an update, or you can get a phone that runs it.

Again, no different than pretending the iPhone 4 can't run Siri so you need to buy the 4S.

In the real world, people aren't waiting for updates. They get a new phone every 16 months, proven statistical fact.

quote:
That hasn't stopped you from making a zillion posts on why Apple products are the worst in every thread.


Non-starter there bud. You make a zillion saying they are the best, and are JUST as predictable. Especially when it comes to ICS. You've been beating a dead horse for the whole year on that one. You've said everything that there is to be said on it.


By TakinYourPoints on 6/11/2012 7:24:12 PM , Rating: 2
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You make a zillion saying they are the best


Not at all, I have likes and dislikes with every platform. I have both PCs and Macs and I have things I like and dislike about both, but in the end I like both.

It isn't that iOS is so amazing or incredible, it's just that Android has a lot of really really huge problems. If Google had control it'd be so much better.


By TakinYourPoints on 6/11/2012 7:44:36 PM , Rating: 2
Of course I have, you just focus on my saying something positive about what you hate so you can get in fights.

Just today I posted about what a piece of crap the 13" MBP is and that they should just can it. The 17" MBP also didn't make sense and I'm glad that they discontinued it. I've said here repeatedly that the Mac Mini doesn't make sense to get unless you're running an HTPC with Plex. I can run down a huge list of things I dislike, but that goes for any platform.

To go with that, I've been a cheerleader of WP7 since the beginning, although it has been hard this year since the hardware obviously hasn't been keeping up. It doesn't matter for core usage but it will be a big problem for applications.

You have a very black and white view of things. I'm of the mind that no platform is perfect, but the good ones have more than enough positives that far outweigh the bad, so no big deal. You want to think something is the best or garbage, particularly when it comes to politics or Apple.


By Aloonatic on 6/12/2012 7:30:42 AM , Rating: 2
If the update is for security reasons, then they really should a) be compelled to either release updates for all phones in the market that may be compromised, or b) be compelled to make it clear at the time of purchase that these risks are inherent in the way they go about running their business and your device may not/probably will not be updated to the latest most secure build of the OS, even if a new more secure build is released while you are still under contract, as many contracts are 24 months these days.

To be fair, as I said earlier, features added to android are normally pretty thin on the ground so I'm usually not that bothered about updates any more, and don't expect the.

In saying that, I had forgotten about the security holes, and seeing as contracts are basically the customer buying the device over a 18/24 month period, they really should make sure that you are kept updated during this time, as the contract is really just making the device appear more financially attractive to get a sale.


By Brandon Hill (blog) on 6/11/2012 7:23:00 PM , Rating: 2
Reclaimer, you're going to LOVE this (I'm currently updating the article to reflect this):

quote:
Some features may not be available in all countries or all areas. [b]Flyover and turn-by-turn navigation will be available only on iPhone 4S and iPad 2 or later.[/b] Cellular data charges may apply.


http://www.apple.com/ios/ios6/maps/


By Reclaimer77 on 6/11/2012 7:47:25 PM , Rating: 2
LMAO!!!! Are you kidding me with that? Wow.


By Brandon Hill (blog) on 6/11/2012 7:38:11 PM , Rating: 2
I kid you not, it's at the bottom of the page in the disclaimer field.

Have fun :)


By TakinYourPoints on 6/11/2012 7:47:55 PM , Rating: 2
Wow, now its Siri and turn-by-turn navigation. Two features are obviously the same thing as an entire operating system, the argument is over I guess.


By Reclaimer77 on 6/11/2012 8:08:23 PM , Rating: 2
Stop calling those "features". They are apps! Very common ones at that. That Apple is just arbitrarily deciding they won't support, for whatever reason.

And no they aren't the same thing. That's the whole point! Are you really this dense?

How is a non-critical OS update more important that being able to run apps again? It's incredulous that you're trying to support such an argument.


By Reclaimer77 on 6/11/2012 8:08:23 PM , Rating: 2
Stop calling those "features". They are apps! Very common ones at that. That Apple is just arbitrarily deciding they won't support, for whatever reason.

And no they aren't the same thing. That's the whole point! Are you really this dense?

How is a non-critical OS update more important that being able to run apps again? It's incredulous that you're trying to support such an argument.


By Aloonatic on 6/12/2012 7:36:30 AM , Rating: 2
Wasn't Google maps navigation only available in the USA for quite a while when that was first released? I think that some MS search options (scout was it?) were only available in the USA too to start with too.

Most companies have the same problems when apps/features are new, but Apple do seem less perturbed about blowing their won trumpet about them, even though they might not really work in many places for a while.

It is a bit odd how Apple were able to get away with advertising Siri in the UK, where some of the things that it was advertised doing were not available in the UK.


By TakinYourPoints on 6/11/2012 6:25:24 PM , Rating: 2
Android apologism at its finest. Way to excuse carriers and hardware manufacturers for absolutely dropping the ball on keeping their phones up to date. ICS has been out for over half a year and only 7% of devices use it, and I'd bet that most of them are new. The bulk are still on the completely insecure 2.2 and 2.3.

Perfectly capable hardware that is only a year old and is well within a two-year contract is probably not going to get an ICS update, that is terrible for customers.

It matters because it gives developers even less of a reason to develop for Android, and it makes it hard for enterprise to adopt because pre-4.0 is fundamentally insecure compared to every other mobile OS out there. It is a big reason why enterprise is deploying iOS and BB and mostly skipping Android.

The Apple/Microsoft/BB approach of centralized updates is so much better. Its a shame that Google doesn't have more control. I see no reason to excuse carriers and manufacturers for doing a bad job keeping capable hardware up to date, especially when the latest iOS is running on three year old hardware and the latest WP7 is running on two year old hardware.


By Reclaimer77 on 6/11/2012 6:45:54 PM , Rating: 2
Bla bla bla same old Takin applying the same double standard.

Android isn't going away, and despite this "terrible" situation, it's kicking iOS's ass in market-share. Terrible for customers? They are picking Android over iOS 3 to 1! Instead of making up straw men, look and listen to the reality here.

Is it a perfect situation? No. Is it as bad as you want it to seem? Nope. In a market where the average smartphone is kept for 16 months, your argument about three year old hardware is ludicrous.


By TakinYourPoints on 6/11/2012 6:41:26 PM , Rating: 1
Android isn't going away, of course, it just has a LOT to improve upon. OS upgrade deployment, security, marketplace, developer support, these are all things where it has serious issues.

Google giving Android away was the worst mistake they've made with it. It bought marketshare but hasn't resulted in profits; Microsoft makes more money from actual handsets and Google makes way more money serving ads on iOS. They could make something much better if they took the reigns.

Why are you excusing poor practices and implementation? I figure you'd want to see your platform get better instead of excusing its shortcomings.


By Reclaimer77 on 6/11/2012 7:19:29 PM , Rating: 2
Those are subjective opinions formatted as facts. Thus are rejected.

I think it's pretty comical to second-guess Google's handling of Android when it single handed made it possible for third-party handset makers to compete with Apple. Yeah clearly they should have done things differently years ago based on your hindsight-tinted observations from today.

Microsoft "took the reigns", how's that been working out for them? Does anyone actually go out of their way to BUY a Windows phone on any significant scale?

Pretty ironic you criticize Google's approach when RIM is crumbling and WP7 has been nothing more than a passing curiosity.


By TakinYourPoints on 6/11/2012 7:20:31 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Those are subjective opinions formatted as facts. Thus are rejected.


You can take your ball and go home if you want.

I prefer to look at facts: http://blog.flurry.com/bid/85911/App-Developers-Si...

And on security: http://www.trendmicro.com/cloud-content/us/pdfs/bu...

These are the direct result of Google's approach.

quote:
Yeah clearly they should have done things differently years ago based on your hindsight-tinted observations from today.


I called all of the above after the first year of Android, the writing was on the wall. I heard the same denial and excuses back then but obviously I was right.


By Reclaimer77 on 6/11/2012 7:36:50 PM , Rating: 2
lol the Tony method huh? Using some biased Apple blogger as evidence.

quote:
I called all of the above after the first year of Android, the writing was on the wall. I heard the same denial and excuses back then but obviously I was right.


Awww cute, want a cookie?

I'm sure after the first year of Android, you also claimed it would never reach something like the 65% marketshare it has now. You sure as hell never thought it would.

But I guess we can't take the good with the bad. Android sucks, regardless of it's success, because Google didn't take the steps you thought they should have.


By TakinYourPoints on 6/11/2012 7:37:13 PM , Rating: 1
How are hard facts and numbers bias? Is it bias because it paints your arguments in a negative light?

Those are hard statistics, it is like calling a benchmark "biased" because you don't like Intel or NVIDIA.

quote:
I'm sure after the first year of Android, you also claimed it would never reach something like the 65% marketshare it has now. You sure as hell never thought it would.


I certainly did. Giving the OS for free to every carrier and seeing how much marketing money Verizon and everyone else spent made it obvious that they were going to sell a ton. Marketing a free OS that every carrier had and inherent issues with the platform are two very different things though.

It may have had negative consequences for developers, the app ecosystem, OS updates, enterprise users, and security, but Android is certainly "good enough" for lots of people to buy, especially since so many models sold are cheap ones that people don't really take online or use apps on.


RE: 3GS gets the upgrade. Do you see that Motorola??
By Syran on 6/11/2012 6:32:15 PM , Rating: 2
Funny thing is, 3GS gets an upgrade, but the ipad 1 doesn't. Where is the sense in that?


By TakinYourPoints on 6/11/2012 6:43:46 PM , Rating: 2
This is the only thing that rubbed me the wrong way. Meh.


By Reclaimer77 on 6/11/2012 7:10:45 PM , Rating: 1
Yes but we don't see you making 20 posts about how terrible THAT is.


By spread on 6/11/2012 10:05:31 PM , Rating: 1
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My Droid X, released summer 2010 and purchased by me in October 2010, will not get Android 4.0, which was released in October 2011.


Why? Because we have to deal with the carriers and their bullshit. Oh they have to "approve" and "test" each software update pushed to "their" phones. Whatever that means.


By theapparition on 6/12/2012 11:06:45 AM , Rating: 2
Most people I know downgraded from iOS5 on their 3GS. Lost had trouble with iOS4 as well.

Yes, it's all good that Apple supports it, but at the same time, it can be too much for the older hardware and cause more problems then it's worth.
Most of the new iOS6 features won't even work with the 3GS either. You don't get Siri, turn by turn or many of the other things that makes the release desirable, so what's the point of even upgrading.

And back on the Android side, that's also the reason to only buy the Nexus series of handsets. Get vanilla updates, pure Google, with no carrier or manufacturer intervention.


By sigmatau on 6/12/2012 8:24:49 PM , Rating: 2
What's pathetic is you thinking that iOS6 will be decent on your pathetic 3GS. Why would I say that? Because the 3GS was pathetic with iOS4 never mind iOS5. I owned a 3GS, I know how terribly it performs.

Good luck with that!


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