backtop


Print 54 comment(s) - last by MarioJP.. on Jun 10 at 2:03 AM


Dell's Joe Kremer  (Source: images.smh.com.au)
Exec hinted at Apple's iPad tablet as being more of a pretty toy rather than a functional device for businesses

Joe Kremer, Dell Australia managing director, attended a media and analyst briefing in Sydney yesterday where he hinted at Apple's iPad tablet as being more of a pretty toy rather than a functional device for businesses.

"People might be attracted to some of these shiny devices, but technology departments can't afford to support them," said Kremer. "If you are giving a presentation and something fails on the software side, it might take four days to get it up and running again. I don't think this race has been run yet."

Kremer is referring to the tablet race, of course. Apple's iPad, which launched in 2010, has dominated the tablet market since its arrival. Others have tried to compete, but either failed or fell way short of Apple's capabilities.

Currently, Apple's iPad accounts for about three quarters of all tablet sales. It's even the tablet of choice for businesses. Many have tried to put a dent in Apple's tablet sales, including Hewlett-Packard's TouchPad. The TouchPad was axed only six weeks after launch, and Research-In-Motion's PlayBook is barely a blimp on the tablet sales radar.


Samsung is the closest thing to an iPad competitor with its Galaxy Tab, but again, it's not nearly enough to budge the Cupertino giant. Amazon's Kindle Fire, which saw huge success in late 2011, can't even seem to touch the iPad. The Fire's sales have dropped 80 percent in the first three months of 2012.

However, Kremer and other PC executives see Windows 8 as a potential new beginning. Many businesses use desktop and notebook PCs, and with a Windows 8 tablet, all of these can be tied together for a more convenient work experience. Many have high hopes that Windows 8 will allow other tablet makers to take a hit at Apple's market share.

This may not be the case, though. There have been many complaints geared toward Microsoft's Metro UI in Windows 8, saying that the user interface is great for regular consumers, but not so much for business. A recent report noted that Microsoft is ripping out huge parts of legacy code that allowed third-party app developers to re-enable the Start Menu and Start Button, which was a staple in Microsoft's traditional Windows operating systems. Microsoft is also planning to disallow users from directly booting to the desktop. Instead, they'll be redirected to the Metro UI graphical environment.

With Microsoft's Metro UI geared more toward consumers who want entertainment more than anything else, Windows 8 may not be the life saver that Kremer and other PC companies hope for.

Source: Financial Review



Comments     Threshold


This article is over a month old, voting and posting comments is disabled

sigh
By hexxthalion on 6/6/2012 11:21:50 AM , Rating: -1
"People might be attracted to some of these shiny devices, but technology departments can't afford to support them,"

because there's no need for that ;)




RE: sigh
By damianrobertjones on 6/6/2012 11:37:52 AM , Rating: 3
Hardly! "I can't print!" Ohh no we need to buy a printer with Airplay or at least wi-fi. It's stupidity in motion.


RE: sigh
By hexxthalion on 6/6/12, Rating: -1
RE: sigh
By kleinma on 6/6/2012 11:58:58 AM , Rating: 3
Oh yeah there is a great defense point. Do people still print things? um yeah, all day, all the time, people print. I guess since you don't print things there is no need for printers anymore, let me go let HP, Canon, and Epson know.


RE: sigh
By Einy0 on 6/6/2012 11:54:32 AM , Rating: 2
Yes people still print. Way too much too... Then again paper is made from trees that are a renewable resource and most paper can be recycled. There is no need to stop printing.


RE: sigh
By Flunk on 6/6/2012 12:11:02 PM , Rating: 2
I think the amount people print is defined by their age, the older they are the more they print. I catch my father printing emails all the time, god knows why.

I find that I rarely print anything at work and never print anything at home. I'm a computer programmer so I'm sure other jobs need to print more than I do.


RE: sigh
By hexxthalion on 6/6/2012 12:21:44 PM , Rating: 2
so we're in the same boat - that's why I asked if ppl still print these days - we don't, only stuff for white boards for project planning but that's pretty much it


RE: sigh
By testerguy on 6/6/2012 2:42:18 PM , Rating: 1
Absolutely agree with you haxxthalion - nobody modern prints out day to day stuff.

As for people who can't get an iPad to print, it's like I said, it's amazing how many guys who describe themselves as 'techy' admit to being complete failures when it comes to sorting printing out, which btw, for anyone who isn't a complete noob is very easy to set up over wifi, or by connecting the iPad to a PC.


RE: sigh
By hexxthalion on 6/7/2012 4:55:02 AM , Rating: 1
exactly ;)


RE: sigh
By kmmatney on 6/6/2012 1:40:58 PM , Rating: 2
I try not to print, but sometimes it just makes things a lot easier. So its a few pages a week for me. I've never found a need to print from an iPad, though.


RE: sigh
By name99 on 6/6/12, Rating: 0
RE: sigh
By kleinma on 6/6/2012 11:55:18 AM , Rating: 3
exactly. There is no need for that because there isn't shit you can do with them. Unless you are in the business of playing angry birds.


RE: sigh
By hexxthalion on 6/6/2012 11:56:02 AM , Rating: 1
this made me laugh. I work for pretty big corp and there are plenty of iPads around. You're pretty much free to choose what you want to use (tablet/mac/win/linux). nobody, not once requested support for iPad.


RE: sigh
By kleinma on 6/6/2012 11:59:37 AM , Rating: 2
What do they do on these ipads around? Let me guess, web browsing, emailing, and games. Right?


RE: sigh
By hexxthalion on 6/6/2012 12:06:59 PM , Rating: 1
not sure, marketing people use them - for my work they're not suitable (web dev here)


RE: sigh
By sigmatau on 6/6/2012 1:22:14 PM , Rating: 2
How would you know that no one ever called for support? Web development does not equal tech support.

ifads are just that. The true tablets will becoming out later this year.


RE: sigh
By testerguy on 6/6/12, Rating: 0
RE: sigh
By hexxthalion on 6/7/2012 4:57:41 AM , Rating: 1
ever heard of cigarette breaks? ;)


RE: sigh
By Einy0 on 6/6/2012 12:04:26 PM , Rating: 2
Mostly for fun and web... You can actually get a lot of work done now a days with nothing but a web browser. I personally agree with the fellow from Dell. That's not a statement you'll hear from me too often. The thing is companies(most) have IP, sales info, etc they want to protect. Companies need easy, accessible management tools to control the flow of data among their employees and customers. Apple does not provide these tools, and that is why they do not belong in businesses.


RE: sigh
By name99 on 6/6/2012 3:40:25 PM , Rating: 2
One thing an iPad does well (which may or may not match your needs) is that it is q very good device for holding a large number of technical PDFs (ie high-end eBook reader).
iPad has the screen to make them look beautiful, and apps (most obviously GoodReader) which do a really good job of
- reading PDFs (including eg cropping their margins so the text fills the screen)
- organizing LARGE numbers of PDFs (eg thousands of scientific papers)
- syncing the PDFs so that a set of directories on a traditional computer stay in sync with the PDFs on the iPad as papers are added or deleted from either machine.

This may not be something you care about. But don't be ignorant --- there are plenty of professionals in the world, from scientists to doctors to lawyers to engineers who care about it a LOT.


RE: sigh
By Reclaimer77 on 6/6/2012 12:09:43 PM , Rating: 2
Well it depends on what you mean by "business". Sure the iPad sucks for content creation, pretty much any device that relies on multi-touch inputs will.

iOS is also childishly simplistic and pedestrian to ever be a serious "business" class mobile OS. With the core functions too locked down and blocked from access, by design, for any IT department to take seriously for things more advanced than browsing etc etc. And without access to the source code companies cannot tailor an iOS build to fit their needs.

I'm sure there are lots of iPads around where you work due to their sheer popularity. But I seriously doubt much "work" is being done on them besides VERY simplistic stuff.


RE: sigh
By kleinma on 6/6/2012 1:10:53 PM , Rating: 2
People just really like the form factor, and still the "wow" new factor of the tablet design (not the iPad specifically, but it just happens to be the nicest tablet hardware at the moment). So much so that they would rather design their business process around it in some cases, even if that makes them less productive and removes capabilities they would have otherwise had with conventional computing tools. Win8 (x86, not ARM) is a nice bridge for this gap. since they get the form factor, they get the wow factor with metro, and they still get the traditional desktop for the real work. If done properly, the best units are going to be the x86 versions that detach from the ultrabook keyboard base to become a standalone tablet. The convertables will be nice since you bring it all with you in 1 piece, but the weight will be better on the ones with removable screens. I am excited to get a nice piece of touch hardware now that I have been getting used to Win8 on non touch hardware for a few months now.


RE: sigh
By testerguy on 6/6/2012 2:47:15 PM , Rating: 1
Sorry, but... ridiculous.

Corporations don't want to be messing round with the source code for tablets. iOS in general is far, far more secure than Android, which is why a lot of corporations use it.

For most people they can do any amount of work on it that they want, Google Docs means full content creation facilities, most systems are web based these days, obviously emails and presentations - pretty much everything business guys need to do can be done by the iPad.

You can even connect via your iPad to your normal desktop PC in the office giving you the ability to do anything you want. People who say it's too 'locked down' really amaze me at their lack of ability to think outside the box and realise that it can do anything they would want.


RE: sigh
By Reclaimer77 on 6/6/2012 3:10:26 PM , Rating: 2
Yes but iOS is FAR behind in security for the Enterprise market. Android can be made to be as secure as you want! Hello? iOS can only be as secure as Apple makes it.

quote:
You can even connect via your iPad to your normal desktop PC in the office giving you the ability to do anything you want.


NO WAY!!! WoW remote desktop access? That's amazing. Hey guys, did you know this was around? I'm blown away that such an amazing feature is available on the iPad!! Well this changes the whole argument. I'm sorry tester, you win again!

Yes, you CAN do work with the iPad. But anyone saying it's not completely inferior for doing work compared to the good old PC/workstation is an idiot.

quote:
pretty much everything business guys need to do can be done by the iPad.


This is an idiotic statement. Most businesses entire ecosystems are built around Windows and Windows apps. Often with custom or specialty software suites.

This whole thing is stupid. Can we just agree, on a base level, that a tablet in general is a convenient mobile device far more effective at content consumption than creation? Just because you like the iPad doesn't mean you can make this argument of yours actually work, or make sense.


RE: sigh
By TakinYourPoints on 6/7/2012 1:59:25 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Yes but iOS is FAR behind in security for the Enterprise market. Android can be made to be as secure as you want!


Only if a company takes the time to custom fork their own version and keep security up to date themselves, all while denying user ability to install their own apps (completely negating the whole "free en open" thing). Otherwise Android is a disaster from a security standpoint.

Numerous government agencies and companies like Halliburton are already in the process of migrating from BB to iOS. Android is almost never a consideration due to it having the worst security of any mobile OS right now, unless of course they build and maintain their own "secure" version and restricting their users.

Google killed Android as a serious business platform for a huge period of time by allowing handset makers to customize their distribution, and by not having a central OS update repository. Take a look at these numbers: http://developer.android.com/resources/dashboard/p...

92% of all Android handsets that connected to Google Play in a 14 day period were running a version of Android below 3.0. About 92% of Android devices out there do not support full disk encryption and are thus useless for any BYOD model of mobile device management. Also, iOS fully supports ActiveSync security policies, about 40, while Android supports only about half a dozen.

A breakdown between mobile operating systems, with Android coming in dead last: http://www.trendmicro.com/cloud-content/us/pdfs/bu...

"Android security and manageability are the lowest in the segment."

There's no enforceable encryption of backups, and no way of knowing about, responding to, and alerting people to security holes in all Android devices. On top of that, you can put two Samsung devices on the table that look identical, except one is a useless brick running 2.2 and other is semi-functional on 4.0.

There are fundamental problems with Android that Google can only fix with time, and they're making no apparent progress. This will murder them in business. As I've said over and over, Google either needs to take control of Android, or they need to release a new mobile OS that is under their centralized control.


"If you can find a PS3 anywhere in North America that's been on shelves for more than five minutes, I'll give you 1,200 bucks for it." -- SCEA President Jack Tretton














botimage
Copyright 2014 DailyTech LLC. - RSS Feed | Advertise | About Us | Ethics | FAQ | Terms, Conditions & Privacy Information | Kristopher Kubicki