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Tesla Model S Signature starts at $105k

As if successfully completing the first commercial mission to the International Space Station and back wasn't enough, Elon Musk is also finding quite a bit of success with his electric venture: Tesla Motors.
 
Inside Line is reporting today that the Model S Signature Performance, the top-of-the-line trim level, is already sold out and Tesla Motors is no longer accepting pre-orders. Customers now wanting to purchase the Model S Signature Performance will have to be put on a waiting list.
 
Interestingly, the standard model is still available for pre-order and has a base price of "only" $57,400 before a $7,500 federal tax credit (President Obama wants to see that federal tax credit increased to $10,000). The Signature Performance, however, has a base price of $105,400.
 
The standard Model S comes with a 40 kWh lithium-ion battery pack (8-year, 100,000-mile warranty), can hit 60 mph in 6.5 seconds and has a top speed of 110 mph. Range is listed at 160 miles.

 Model S Signature at the Tesla Fashion Island Signature Weekend [Image Source: Tesla Motors]
 
The Signature Performance ups the ante with an 85 kWh lithium-ion battery pack (8-year, unlimited miles warranty). As its name implies, performance improves greatly with 0-60 times dropping to 4.4 seconds while the top speed increases to 130 mph. The maximum driving range of the Signature Performance is listed at 300 miles.
 
The first deliveries of the Model S Signature Performance will begin on June 22. Those who have ponied up for the standard Model S will receive their vehicles later this fall. Those who haven't already pre-ordered the standard Model S still have time to get in line; Tesla is still accepting $5,000 deposits for the vehicle.

Source: Inside Line



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RE: can we stop subsidizing luxury please
By lelias2k on 6/4/2012 5:57:27 PM , Rating: 5
Funny, I've never heard anyone complaining about the tax breaks one could get for buying Expeditions and Suburbans. (The old 6000lbs loophole) :|

I also don't see anyone asking to stop the tax breaks oil corporations get, while profiting billions and causing huge environmental accidents.

If we tax the crap out of tobacco companies because they are bad for us, why not do the same with oil companies? I still haven't heard anything about Phillip Morris going out of business.


RE: can we stop subsidizing luxury please
By Reclaimer77 on 6/4/2012 8:03:38 PM , Rating: 1
First off stop saying you don't see anyone complaining about such things. They do. Often. The President himself "complains" about them constantly, I would certainly say he qualifies as "someone".

Secondly the Government wasn't trying to get people to buy SUV's over other cars. That was a tax break to help farmers that was poorly framed and allowed people to get a break on buying those vehicles. Is that REALLY comparable to the EV subsidy argument? Of course not.

Oil companies provide a product that's in such demand they profit in the billions. Electric vehicles are literally only on the market because of Government funding, every sale is also subsidized, and there's barely any demand for them judging by total sales. Yeeeah, another even comparison there. The oil subsidies only lower our price at the pump, the product would still exist without them. The same cannot be said for most EV's.


RE: can we stop subsidizing luxury please
By Jedi2155 on 6/4/2012 8:17:03 PM , Rating: 2
The main thing is that EV's provide a benefit to society that normal vehicles do not.

- Reduce foreign oil dependence/national security.
- Extend supplies of existing oil reserves.
- Helps lower pump cost for everyone else (lowering demand)
- Cleaner air quality and locally produced fuel (Nuclear/Renewable/Natural gas)

Those are the big ones, that EV's provide to society while a normal gas burning vehicle provide no such benefits. That's why I think government subsidies are justified for the time being.


RE: can we stop subsidizing luxury please
By Reclaimer77 on 6/4/12, Rating: 0
RE: can we stop subsidizing luxury please
By 1prophet on 6/4/2012 9:10:32 PM , Rating: 2
That's right, society can go pound salt since it's all about me. (^_-)


RE: can we stop subsidizing luxury please
By Reclaimer77 on 6/4/2012 9:34:52 PM , Rating: 2
This sort of thing NEVER produces stronger better societies. You have it all wrong.


By testerguy on 6/6/2012 2:55:44 AM , Rating: 2
Society as a collective philosophy is not necessarily political, it's a logical necessity, all parties and all political views encompass a society view.

You've failed to address any of the very real and logical benefits outlined by the original poster.


By Kurz on 6/5/2012 3:13:22 PM , Rating: 2
What makes up societies? Individuals.
If the Individual is cast aside for the 'greater good' the rest of society suffers as their base weakens.


By JediJeb on 6/6/2012 5:55:32 PM , Rating: 2
Some of those benefits might come true if EVs were to be sold in large amounts, but for now the hand full that have been sold really do nothing for those things. You will not see any of those benefits until they sell EVs at prices around $20k or lower. When they finally make the "Everyman's " version then maybe they will take off and begin to change things. Even then, around where I live it will only mean more coal will be burned to provide the electricity needed for them, since that is the only type of power plants around here.


RE: can we stop subsidizing luxury please
By Schrag4 on 6/5/2012 9:38:31 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
I also don't see anyone asking to stop the tax breaks oil corporations get, while profiting billions and causing huge environmental accidents.


A couple of points:

- These tax breaks you talk about aren't specific to the oil industry, they're tax breaks that ALL industries enjoy. What you're calling for isn't for the oil industry to stop being favored, rather you seem to want it to be punished.
- The profit margin that the oil industry sees is about the same that other industries see, somewhere around 8 or 9 percent. They just happen to move a lot of product.


RE: can we stop subsidizing luxury please
By Reclaimer77 on 6/5/2012 11:50:55 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
What you're calling for isn't for the oil industry to stop being favored, rather you seem to want it to be punished.


That's what all these people want basically. It's so obvious. Oil represents everything liberal morons are against.


RE: can we stop subsidizing luxury please
By testerguy on 6/6/2012 3:00:29 AM , Rating: 2
It's painfully obvious why the majority of people (regardless of their political view) are uneasy with the oil situation (not agreeing that they want anyone to be punished).

A world utterly dependant on a commodity which is in very short supply and which many believe could lead to global wars in the near future unless said dependence is removed.

A push towards renewable and therefore sustainable energies is the logical solution, and it's also logical that to accelerate this process the government adds an incentive to the population to invest in this new technology.

It has nothing to do with political stance in general - it's simply about sustainability and national security, which pretty much all parties would agree are important.


By JediJeb on 6/6/2012 5:50:00 PM , Rating: 2
Except that even switching to EVs won't cure those ills, only shift them to others. Think about it, once we are off "foreign oil", these EVs make us dependent on those who will supply the needed metals for producing the motors and batteries. So after we avoid a war for oil, then we have a war for Lithium, or one of the "rare earth" metals. Instead of having wars in the middle east, we now focus on China and South America. What happens to stability in the Middle East once the oil cash cow dies? Will the Saudi's begin to rattle their swords demanding cheaper supplies of Lithium? It sounds silly, but you have to think about it.


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