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iPhone rumored to have 16:9 aspect ratio either a 3.999 inch or 4.1 inch screen

Late Apple CEO Steven P. Jobs once blasted competitors like Samsung Electronics Comp., Ltd. (KSC:005930) for making larger phones.  He called larger handsets "Hummer" phones, remarking "you can't get your hand around it" and "no one's going to buy that".

Well, with Mr. Jobs gone, it appears Apple is finally ready to "follow in Android's line" and make its own "Hummer" phone.

Reports from ReutersThe Wall Street Journal, and various blogs are unanimous that Apple is cooking up a larger smartphone for its sixth generation iPhone and iPod Touch. What the various sources can't seem to agree upon is the precise details of the larger display, which is reportedly sourced to multiple South Korean and Japanese display manufacturers.

MacRumors recently published a report, based on supposedly leaked parts pictures, indicating that the display will have a diagonal of 4.1-inches and that "the display would be taller than the current model".  The latter indicates a change in aspect ratio.

9 to 5 Mac published slightly different details.  While it agrees an aspect ratio change (from 3:2 to 16:9) is incoming, it argues that the new display will be 3.999 inches in diagonal (1.9632 in. wide x 3.484 in. tall).  It bases its report on alleged insider leaks from Apple, where prototypes are reportedly being tested.

To add to the chaos and confusion Taiwan news outlet Liberty Times (English translation) is reporting that Apple will be selling a "Mini iPad" later this year, in the 7-inch niche.
mini iPad
An imaginative render of the 7-inch "mini iPad" [Image Source: CNET]

A 7-inch iPad variant could do very well, particularly at a correspondingly lower price point.  After all, Amazon.com, Inc.'s (AMZN) Kindle Fire has seen hot sales at the $199 USD mark.

A mini iPad would have likely caused the late Mr. Jobs much consternation.  Mr. Jobs was also a notoriously staunch critic of smaller tablets.  In a late 2010 rant he commented:

The reason we wouldn't make a 7-inch tablet isn't because we don't want to hit a price point, it's because we don't think you can make a great tablet with a 7-inch screen.  The 7-inch tablets are tweeners, too big to compete with a smartphone and too small to compete with an iPad.  [Increasing screen resolution on small devices is] meaningless, unless your tablet also includes sandpaper, so that the user can sand down their fingers to around one quarter of the present size.

Well get that sandpaper ready, Apple faithful, because a small iPad may be on its way.

Sources: Mac Rumors, 9 to 5 Mac



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RE: Out of context?
By theapparition on 5/23/2012 9:36:02 AM , Rating: 2
You're completely wrong in your speculation, but I'll just address one of your inaccuracies that is completely false.

Corning, the makers of Gorilla glass, has never made glass for Apple products. Gorilla glass was used in many models of phones and PDAs before Apple even thought of mobile computing. The generic name for Gorilla glass is Aluminosilicate glass, of which Apple does use, but it's not made by Corning.


RE: Out of context?
By retrospooty on 5/23/2012 10:24:34 AM , Rating: 2
"The generic name for Gorilla glass is Aluminosilicate glass, of which Apple does use, but it's not made by Corning."

Sadly, your clear and concise statement of fact will do little to dispel the myth that Apple "innovated" gorilla glass or the smartphone in general among these zealots. They see what they want to see and think what they want to think.

The bottom line... Apple purchased a good buch of tech and wrapped it up into a nice package making a good product, and they continue to do so. They didnt invent squat, and they dont innovate. They do put together good products that people want to buy, so kudos for that, but that is all it is.


RE: Out of context?
By testerguy on 5/29/2012 2:48:53 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
"The generic name for Gorilla glass is Aluminosilicate glass, of which Apple does use, but it's not made by Corning." Sadly, your clear and concise statement of fact will do little to dispel the myth that Apple "innovated" gorilla glass or the smartphone in general among these zealots. They see what they want to see and think what they want to think. The bottom line... Apple purchased a good buch of tech and wrapped it up into a nice package making a good product, and they continue to do so. They didnt invent squat, and they dont innovate. They do put together good products that people want to buy, so kudos for that, but that is all it is.


Could you both be any more moronic, or fundamentally wrong?

Corning has a plaque on their wall from Steve Jobs saying 'we couldn't have done it without you'.

Apple has confirmed in a job listing that they use Corning glass in all of their tablets and phones.

Furthermore, from Steve Jobs' autobiography:
quote:
Jobs decribed the type of glass Apple wanted for the iPhone, and Weeks told him that Corning had developed a chemical exchange process in the 1960s that led to what they dubbed "gorilla glass". It was incredibly strong, but it had never found a market, so Corning quit making it. Jobs said he doubted it wasd good enough, and he started explaining to Weeks how glass was made. This amused Weeks, who of course knew more than Jobs about that topic. "Can you shut up," Weeks interjected, "and let me teach you some science?" Jobs was taken aback and fell silent. Weeks went on to the whiteboard and gave a tutorial on the chemistry, which involved ion-exchange process that produced a compression layer on the surface of the glass. This turned Jobs around, and he said he wanted as much gorilla glass as Corning could make within six months. "We don't have the capacity," Weeks replied. "None of our plants make the glass now." "Don't be afraid," Jobs replied. This stunned Weeks, who was good-humoured and confident, but not used to Jobs's reality distortion field. He tried to explain that a false sense of confidence would not overcome engineering challenges, but that was a premise that Jobs had repeatedly shown he didn't accept. He stared at Weeks un-blinking. "Yes, you can do it", he said. "Get your mind around it. You can do it." As Weeks retold this story, he shook his head in astonishment. "We did it in under six months," he said. "We produced a glass that had never been made." Corning's facility in Harrisburg, Kentucky, which had been making LCD displays, was converted overnight to make gorilla glass full-time. "We put our best scientists and engineers on it, and we just made it work." In his airy office, Weeks had just one framed memento on display. It's a message Jobs sent the day the iPhone came out: "We couldn't have done it without you.


The only reason you have Gorilla glass in any phone is down to Apple and Jobs. What's ironic is retrospooty actually labelled his and the original reply to my comments drivel as 'concise statement of fact'. There are some seriously retarded people on these forums.


RE: Out of context?
By retrospooty on 5/29/2012 12:31:16 PM , Rating: 2
LOL... So you read Steve Jobs autobiography? Point #1 that you are ridiculous. Point #2 being that you take info in it as fact.

You dont seem to be aware the man wasn't stable, and that his ego warped facts in his mind.

I am really tiring of the dis-information you are spreading on my favorite website. Your agenda here is nothing but a joke to the vast majority of us who see through you.


RE: Out of context?
By Tony Swash on 5/23/2012 11:27:54 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
They do put together good products that people want to buy, so kudos for that, but that is all it is.


"but that is all it is", And with that casual phrase you dismiss something that literally tens of thousands of the cleverest, most dedicated, most focussed, highest paid people in companies like Microsoft, Dell, HP Acer, RIM, Nokia and many other have been trying desperately to emulate and failing miserably. It's like saying "he summited Everest but he just climbed to the top, but that is all it is".

In your world Apple has become the most successful growth and profits story in the modern business epoch by actually doing nothing much of substance, certainly not anything unique or even that interesting. With a wave of the hand and a casual phrase all that Apple has achieved can be dismissed.

It's beyond asinine and into the realms of the hyper ludicrous.

It must take such stupendous mental effort to keep your imaginary world going.


RE: Out of context?
By retrospooty on 5/23/2012 11:47:05 AM , Rating: 3
"It must take such stupendous mental effort to keep your imaginary world going"

uh... ya, my imaginary world is an issue here.

Apple makes great products and absolutely phenominal profits. Yes, I agree... But, they are just a company that buys tech and makes it into great products. My dismissal of that is far FAR less significant than you over-hyping of that. They are a company that makes products. You put them up on a pedestal and act as if it is the second coming. Its freegin phones, tablets and computers Tony, not the end all be all of tech. FFS get a grip!!!


RE: Out of context?
By nolisi on 5/23/2012 1:47:38 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
by actually doing nothing much of substance, certainly not anything unique or even that interesting.


I'm sorry to inform you of this, Tony, they haven't done anything unique. There isn't one part of the iPhone or iPad that isn't an idea leveraged, borrowed, or taken from somewhere else.

Multitouch has been experimented with (1970's) long before the iPhone was ever concieved.

Egghead software was the original App store. The T-Mobile Sidekick featured the "Download Catalog" which had its own SDK for third parties, which preceded the iPhone + App store by several years.

Tablets and touchscreen phones existed in various forms prior to the iPhone/iPad.

The iPhone itself had to utilize many of Google's services to be useful.

The only thing Apple did was take all these ideas, and create product under a popular brand name.

The correct analogy is this: Apple didn't summit Everest, they simply bought the backpack and climbing gear companies and eventually hired the guy who actually summitted Everest after he did it, then threw their logo feces all over them like a crazed marketing monkey.


RE: Out of context?
By retrospooty on 5/23/2012 2:12:36 PM , Rating: 2
Exactly... I will give 'em this. They do a great job at leveraging existing tech and putting it in to mobile products that people want and that push the industry to higher standards. We all owe Apple a thanks for that... But its not worthy of worship on Tony's level. Its just a company for fart sakes.


RE: Out of context?
By name99 on 5/23/2012 4:12:31 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Corning, the makers of Gorilla glass, has never made glass for Apple products. Gorilla glass was used in many models of phones and PDAs before Apple even thought of mobile computing. The generic name for Gorilla glass is Aluminosilicate glass, of which Apple does use, but it's not made by Corning.


The CEO of Corning, Wendell Weeks, has publicly stated that
(a) Corning designed a new glass for the iPhone, at the request of, and based on the specs of Apple.
(b) This is based on "Chemcor" brand glass, invented in the 1960s, but which found little practical application and so was not much sold after some initial trials. It was called gorilla glass internally, but had no real branding behind it --- because it was not being sold.

So, to summarize.
- Corning HAS made glass for Apple products.
- Apple not only pushed for a better version of gorilla glass, they provided a commercial market for it.
- It was not used by any damn PDAs or phones before Apple.

Apple phones after the first iPhone have not used Gorilla glass. I don't know what they use, but presumably Apple found something they consider even better. This may be how this ridiculous idea arose that Apple was not involved in the creation of Gorilla glass.
Given the new improved Gorilla glass 2 that Corning unveiled a few months ago, iPad3 may be using this new Gorilla glass, along with the next iPhone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorilla_Glass


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