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The website offers fuel costs and MSRP of 18 2012-2013 vehicles

The U.S. government just introduced a new section to its website that allows consumers to compare the payback of certain hybrids and their traditional gasoline counterpart.

The website offers fuel costs and MSRP of 18 2012-2013 vehicles. Consumers simply choose a hybrid model and move the sliders appropriately to see the payback period and fuel savings for that particular vehicle. The calculations are based on fuel prices, city-highway driving percentage and annual miles.

"Based on MSRP and fuel costs alone, hybrid vehicles can save you money versus a comparably equipped conventional vehicle," said

Some of the vehicles available on are the 2012 Ford Fusion Hybrid, 2012 Toyota Prius C One, and 2013 Chevrolet Malibu Eco.

An example of the information that the website offers is a comparison of the 2012 Hyundai Sonata Hybrid and the gasoline-powered 2012 Hyundai Sonata SE. According to, the hybrid Sonata costs $2,655 more than the conventional version and takes about 5.1 years to pay back.

The government is certainly looking to push consumers toward more fuel efficient vehicles, especially with the White House's recent proposed 54.5 MPG CAFE requirement for 2017-2025 model year vehicles. This standard would save customers $6,600 at the gas pump for the lifetime of a 2025 vehicle.


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Good idea
By Beenthere on 5/21/2012 9:56:38 PM , Rating: -1
When consumers see that it will take most owners 39 years to recoupe the excess cost of a hybrid even with tax payer bribe money thrown in, they'll realize how really ignorant Bama, the EPA and many environmentalist are for NOT promoting clean Diesel instead of bad hybrids and impractical EVs that receive huge financial subsidies from tax payers and there is no infrastructure to support EVs so we'll be expected to pay for that too.

Maybe Bama, the EPA and other morons should actually look around when they are spending tax payer dollars for fun vacations outside the U.S. They might be surprised to learn 60+% of the civilized world uses Diesels because they are more fuel efficient and practical than anything else.

RE: Good idea
By sigmatau on 5/21/2012 10:13:16 PM , Rating: 3
Wait... what? 39 years?

RE: Good idea
By knutjb on 5/21/2012 10:22:55 PM , Rating: 4
Again, in the US for a large percentage to move to diesel it would run the cost of that fuel up dramatically. The railroads are the number one consumer, then airlines and trucking. Diesel and Jet A are from the same chunk of oil so only so much diesel/Jet A can be made per barrel. Their heavy consumption of diesel/Jet A would normally lower our gas prices if all the excess gas wasn't shipped out of the country. Our fuel usage is dramtically different than rest of the world.

RE: Good idea
By Mint on 5/22/2012 11:06:20 AM , Rating: 2
Yup. Don't forget growing economies in India selling 30% diesel cars.

Worldwide gas:diesel consumption ratio needs to stay roughly fixed, so there's no point in the US switching passenger cars to diesel.

RE: Good idea
By tjoynt on 5/21/2012 10:16:41 PM , Rating: 2
You are off by an order of magnitude.

" will take most owners 3.9 years to recoupe the excess cost of a hybrid... "


RE: Good idea
By knutjb on 5/21/2012 10:43:11 PM , Rating: 5
If the president has his way he will shorten that time by raising fuel costs through policy. Unfortunately by the time he makes the hybrid the better buy we won't be able to afford it from the mass inflation in living expenses. The community organizer in chief doesn't understand that when you jack up energy costs, Necessarily , it affects all forms of commerce like shipping and farmers and ...

RE: Good idea
By sigmatau on 5/21/2012 10:57:10 PM , Rating: 2
Ain't he cute!

RE: Good idea
By Mint on 5/22/12, Rating: 0
RE: Good idea
By knutjb on 5/22/2012 4:37:29 PM , Rating: 2
Open your eyes, he has those policies in place now. If you look at where our current oil production is coming from it's not from federal lands. He has shutdown future production on federal lands only. He is trying to stiffle the new private drilling through new regulations from the EPA.

Look a little deeper in the site and look at the trends on federal lands. They peaked last year and are falling. When government policy changes towards opening up production it can take five to ten years for most to impact. Negative policies, that we have now, have a much quicker impact. The riggs cost a million a day and idle time is money wasted so they leave the gulf. To replace those riggs takes seven to ten years manufacture and deploy. Once you apply those time lines to most, not all, drilling you will have high fuel costs for many years to come. THAT IS WHAT THE PRESIDENT WANTS AND IS GETTING. No carbon trading scam required.

There are a few exceptions: in California if drilling occurs in Santa Barbra and a few other locations production could take a year or two to impact the market since pipelines for transit are already in place.

The more we have to buy from the global market the more demand placed on those resources, hence driving up prices. There is more than one way to accomplish their publically stated goal.

FYI: Contrary to what extreme environmentist believe oil will not go away with a new, practical energy soure. Where do most plastics and lubricants come from.

Another issue you probably don't know about is:

The Law of the Sea Treaty calls for technology transfers and wealth transfers from developed to undeveloped nations. It also requires parties to the treaty to adopt regulations and laws to control pollution of the marine environment. Such provisions were among the reasons President Ronald Reagan rejected the treaty in 1982.

Yes the president has more than one socialist trick up his sleave...

RE: Good idea
By JediJeb on 5/22/2012 6:36:30 PM , Rating: 2
I checked with my driving stats and even a Prius C takes 8 years to recover the cost difference. Of course that is driving 10K miles per year and only about 30% at most is in the "city" if you can call 7 stoplights city driving.

RE: Good idea
By Jedi2155 on 5/21/2012 10:23:02 PM , Rating: 3
There are currently NO federal tax credits for any non-plug-in hybrid vehicles. All the tax credit for hybrids were passed by Bush. While you might find some incentives depending on your local state/municipal governments, there are none at the federal level.

The only federal incentives are pure EV's and plug-in hybrids.

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