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High-end Tesla Model S could be the most efficient EV in the land

Tesla is set to put its Model S all-electric sedan on the market a few months ahead of schedule, with the first customer deliveries taking place next month. Another bit of good news for Tesla and the people who are waiting for their Model S to take up residence in their driveway has surfaced. 
 
Motor Trend reports that the top-of-the-line (85 kWh) Model S is expected to earn a window sticker rating from the EPA showing a 265-mile driving range.
 
There has been confusion on the driving range for a fully charged Model S, mostly because multiple numbers have been thrown around since the vehicle was first unveiled. The driving range has been at different times said to be 160-miles, 230-miles, and 300-miles depending upon the size of the battery pack installed. Tesla also recently noted that the car was able to achieve a 320-mile driving range on a full charge in the EPA's 2-cycle driving test.
 
The new 265-mile range for the window sticker is based on the EPA's new five-cycle test. If Tesla is able to land that 265-mile driving range on the EPA's new test, the Model S will be massively superior to other electric vehicles, such as the Nissan Leaf, which was only able to muster a 73-mile driving range on the same test. Granted, the high-end Model S is much more expensive than the Leaf.
 
The real world driving distance will likely vary significantly, depending on where the vehicle is operated and how heavy the driver's right foot is.
 
The Model S is also available with smaller 40 kWh or 60 kWh battery packs. The base Model S will sell for $57,400 and range up to $105,400 for higher end versions with an 85 kWh lithium-ion battery. Tesla has 10,000 orders in hand for the new Model S EV.
 
Word that the car may come early sent shares of Tesla stock surging.

Source: MotorTrend



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RE: Need some Keeir math
By Keeir on 5/16/2012 2:32:19 PM , Rating: 2
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5.6 seconds Keeir according to Tesla themselves for the 85kWh battery. That's right on their page! Where is this 4.4 crap coming from? For some reason I can't post it but there are at LEAST 5 cars that are MUCH quicker than that one in that price range. I'm going to get right to the point and this will be my last post on these EV threads.


http://www.teslamotors.com/models/options

To get to 100k+ you must select "Signature Performance" Read carefully. You must add ALL the options as well.

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My largest problem is misinformation and just plain ignorance of ALL the facts. $60k for a G37? BZZZZZZT!!! Subtract at least $10k. Source? Infinitiusa.com.


A G37 equipped like a base model S will cost ~40,000 at the Dealer with a reasonable markdown. Now how are you going to drive it without buying gas?!? I AM VERY CONFUSED how you miss this point. The G37 gets 22 EPA combined mileage.
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/PowerSearch.do?acti...

The Model S (according to this article) gets 3.1 miles per kWh on the -SAME- test.

According to the EPA the G37 will cost .18-.20 dollars per mile to drive. This is just gasoline.

According to the EPA the Model S will cost .03-.06 dollars per mile to drive.

Over 100,000 miles, a very -normal- length of time to own a car, the G37 is going to cost 18,000-20,000 is fuel costs even if fuel doesn't increase in price.

http://www.edmunds.com/infiniti/g-sedan/2012/tco.h...

According to Edmunds, the expected TCO for a G37 Sport over -just- 5 years and 75,000 miles is 64,492 .

Sorry that MATH appears to be hard for you or you don't have a concept that a Car cost more to fuel and maintain than to buy. But the Model S at ~60,000 MSRP is very comparable TCO wise with a G37. Even if you live in California.


RE: Need some Keeir math
By sigmatau on 5/16/2012 5:31:56 PM , Rating: 2
I tend to drive a lot and have been looking at the cost of total ownership instead of the initial cost of a vehicle. Your post makes sense. Make sure to add the fuel cost, even though 1/6 as much as gas, to your final analysis for an EV too. Even though it will increase the TCO of the EV in your point, it will also show just how much of a difference it is to maintain and fuel that sucker.

I wish I paid 1/6 the cost of gas. That's like 60 cents a gallon.

Also, batteries for these vehicles have been lasting longer than what is in say a cell phone. The Prius's battery, even though it's not lithium, lasts over 10 years. This car comes with an 8 year warranty so people can't really complain about having to factor in a replacement battery.


RE: Need some Keeir math
By Keeir on 5/16/2012 9:09:00 PM , Rating: 2
I did add it...

I am confused how people are missing this point.

I added Fuel and didn't take a rebate.

A base Model S over 100,000 miles will cost peanuts to run. My cost today would be 2,890 dollars.

MSRP + Fuel - Rebate = ~53,000 for me
MSRP + Fuel (20 cents per kWh) = ~64,000


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