quote: the consequences of its use are extremely damaging to our planet
quote: Exxon Mobil alone had $41 BILLION in profits AFTER taxes. Do you really think they need ANY break?
quote: Especially in metrics like 60-100 mph acceleration where EV's start to run out of breath?
quote: Electric motors (for cars) has had bugger all time spent on them.
quote: At the turn of the [20th] century, 40 percent of American automobiles were powered by steam, 38 percent by electricity, and 22 percent by gasoline. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_electr...
quote: Are you serious? Pure Electric cars shit on anything combustion wise when it comes to acceleration,It's instant torque! lol
quote: Combustion engines have had how many decades to improve? Electric motors (for cars) has had bugger all time spent on them.
quote: a $100k car
quote: I love how we're factoring in the cost of gas as "cost" of the car.
quote: I assumed the Model S cost 6,200 in electricity to run. That's a average price of 20 cents per kWh.
quote: If you buy a car as an art peice, that's really great. 99% of this country buys a car as a transporation device. They are buying transporation. Not a lawn scuplture.
quote: Which doesn't matter because it gets $7,500+ subsidy right off the bat. Give me a $20k gas credit and hey, I'm all ears.
quote: And we've already established that EV's utterly fail as transportation devices. Yet you keep using any argument, any skewed math and assumptions to state otherwise.
quote: "We shouldn't subsidize EV technology because EVs are bad."
quote: I guess I am really confused.
quote: Providing private market subsidies is bad, regardless of the merits of the technology! Private market subsidies distort economic evaluation and spending.
quote: quote:"We shouldn't subsidize EV technology because EVs are bad."What!? No.
quote: So am I. I'm confused why you keep factoring in fuel costs besides the fact that it skews the argument more in EV's favor. We're talking about the cost of the vehicle straight up.
quote: First off people don't really pay cash for new vehicles. They are financed. So how much extra financing are you paying for that EV over the course of a say 5 year loan?
quote: I think it should be clear than you DO think about the cost of fuel.
quote: Then why the constant Strawmen arguements that EVs are bad.
quote: If we as a nation want to -lower- imported oil, lower transporation costs, increase national security, lower real pollution, and C02 levels...
quote: I'd prefer the market where, when appropriate, people buy EVs, PHEVs, HEVs, Diesels ICEs, and Gasoline ICEs than having Mass Transit versus Gasoline ICE.
quote: Ugh I rest my case. Maybe if people supporting EV's weren't so inherently Liberal I could get behind them more. I don't know.
quote: Except this doesn't work. The market has shown EVERY TIME that when offered a choice, consumers will pick standard ICE vehicles over all others.
quote: I don't think "EV's are bad". I'm just pissed off how they've become tied into the current political atmosphere, the clear anti-ICE agenda and "green" nonsense
quote: The market has shown EVERY TIME that when offered a choice, consumers will pick standard ICE vehicles over all others.
quote: 5.6 seconds Keeir according to Tesla themselves for the 85kWh battery. That's right on their page! Where is this 4.4 crap coming from? For some reason I can't post it but there are at LEAST 5 cars that are MUCH quicker than that one in that price range. I'm going to get right to the point and this will be my last post on these EV threads.
quote: My largest problem is misinformation and just plain ignorance of ALL the facts. $60k for a G37? BZZZZZZT!!! Subtract at least $10k. Source? Infinitiusa.com.