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Missing legacy mode will hurt ARM Windows 8 according to Intel

Intel CEO Paul Otellini is certainly feeling a bit of heat as ARM processor architecture is set to come into Intel's traditional market of notebooks running Windows and compete head-to-head. Intel has been unable to compete directly against ARM in the mobile market for smartphones and tablets due to the higher power consumption of Intel chips. That is changing, however, with Intel "Medfield"-based smartphones coming to market.
 
Otellini was addressing a group of investors at Intel's investor day this week and took the time to throw stones at ARM platforms running Windows RT.

"There's been a lot of debate that [Windows 8] is going to be a real entree for the ARM camp into Windows for the first time," said Otellini. "While at face value, that's true...[but] I think they have a big uphill fight."

During the meeting, Intel showed off a new ultrabook with a touchscreen that was running Windows 8. The demonstration showed how the machine could be changed between the new touch centric Metro mode and a classic mode with the keyboard and mouse for control called legacy mode.
 
"With one button you can get to legacy mode...this is critically important for CIOs who want to preserve all of their investments in software," he said. "We have the advantage of the incumbency, advantage of the legacy support. Not just in terms of applications but devices."
 
Otellini also said that Windows 8 on ARM lacks corporate enterprise readiness which will further limit it's appeal. 

Source: CNET



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RE: Thanks For Pointing that out Intel
By Reclaimer77 on 5/11/2012 12:44:33 PM , Rating: 4
They shouldn't have used the word "Windows" for the ARM OS. It sounds radical but think about it. Who says Microsoft MUST call every OS they make "Windows"?

This was an opportunity to make two distinctive product lines for multi-platform usage. Like you said, when people see "Windows" they are going to expect it to behave like Windows always has. They aren't going to understand x86 and ARM code incompatibilities.

That way us Desktop PC users could enjoy Windows 8 without the slap in the face that is Metro, and mobile device users could enjoy their dumbed down flavor of the month touch UI.

Windows 8 is a terribly flawed response to the iPad. There's a reason why the iPad runs iOS, not Mac OS X. Windows 8 is trying to have it all, and I don’t think that can be done. You can’t make something conceptually lightweight if it’s carrying 25 years of Windows baggage.


RE: Thanks For Pointing that out Intel
By tayb on 5/11/2012 2:05:41 PM , Rating: 3
I think they should just call it what it really is, Windows Tablet 8 or Windows Mobile 8. Then they would have Windows Phone 8, Windows Tablet/Mobile 8, and Windows 8. I don't think it would be confusing at all. It is still Windows and it is still sharing a code base but it is a different version just like the Windows Phone and the naming should make that clear. Windows RT is just ridiculously confusing for average users.

I don't know if it is a flawed response just yet. Time will tell. The iPad sells well because it is fun to use and the entry price is $400. As an iPad owner, however, I can confidently tell you that it is nothing more than a toy and I would GLADLY pay double or more for an 11" version that was running OS X Mountain Lion. I would prefer a Windows tablet provided the experience was the same or better. Right now it is not, Windows 8 closes the gaps for tablet usage.

My concern on the matter is what they've sacrificed in order to make the UI tablet friendly. Metro takes some time to get used to and I'm not sure what percentage of people will take that time. To me it's very very similar to the ribbon UI overhaul on the office suite. People went ballistic at first and refused to give up their copies of Office 2003 but they've grown to enjoy it. It's a great UI for a tablet though.


By Reclaimer77 on 5/11/2012 7:11:05 PM , Rating: 2
Well "Windows Mobile" might conjure up memories of the last time they named something WinMobile heheeh. Not a good move there imo.

But yeah, the naming right now is pretty vague and not all that catchy. Like I said, I don't see why the mobile version HAS to be a "Windows" anything. Just call it Microsoft Metro or something.

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My concern on the matter is what they've sacrificed in order to make the UI tablet friendly. Metro takes some time to get used to and I'm not sure what percentage of people will take that time. To me it's very very similar to the ribbon UI overhaul on the office suite. People went ballistic at first and refused to give up their copies of Office 2003 but they've grown to enjoy it. It's a great UI for a tablet though.


100% agree. I simply don't want, or even see the value in making my desktop OS look like and behave like a mobile device.


RE: Thanks For Pointing that out Intel
By scrapsma54 on 5/11/12, Rating: 0
By StevoLincolnite on 5/11/2012 9:57:02 PM , Rating: 4
Where do you get the idea that Arm is around the speed of a Core 2 @ 2ghz?

If you think about it, Arm is competitive with Medfield. And Medfield is based on the Atom Architecture. And we all know how badly Atom performs against any decent desktop chip!

Heck my ancient Single-core Pentium M 1.6ghz laptop overclocked to 2ghz wipes the floor with my Atom 330 HTPC system in most situations that aren't heavily threaded.


"If you look at the last five years, if you look at what major innovations have occurred in computing technology, every single one of them came from AMD. Not a single innovation came from Intel." -- AMD CEO Hector Ruiz in 2007














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