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  (Source: HP)
Intel ultrabooks won't come with discrete graphics, you'll have to pay extra for that

Hewlett-Packard Comp. (HPQ) is the world's largest seller of personal computers and hence a key battleground for processor makers Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. (AMD) and Intel Corp. (INTC).

Both companies' latest and greatest chip are on parade in a trio of new ultrathin lines unveiled by HP, a refresh to the company's "Envy" ultramobile brand.  Interestingly, the Ivy Bridge (Intel) and Trinity (AMD) notebooks have the same battery life rating from HP -- 9 hours (though of course real-world testing is likely to reveal a winner and a loser).

The AMD designs are substantially cheaper than the Ivy Bridge ones.  HP's most affordable "Sleekbook" line will first launch with higher priced Intel designs, but in June will be expanded to include less costly models powered by AMD's new Trinity accelerated processing unit (APU), which features "discrete quality" on-die graphics.

The SleekBook models are as follows:

HP Envy SleekBook (14-inches): May 9 launch
Price: $699 (Sandy Bridge) ~$799 (Ivy Bridge)
Weight: 4 lb
Thickness: ~19.8 mm
Screen: 14-inch 1366x768 pixel
Memory: 4 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
Storage: 500 GB HDD
Connectivity: 802.11a/g/n, gigabit ethernet
Ports: HDMI, USB 3.0 x2, USB 2.0 x1, SD card reader
Extras: Beats Audio

(Note: This isn't an ultrabook, as it doesn't meet Intel's official spec, which requies an SSD or NAND cache.)

HP Envy SleekBook (15.6-inches): June 20 launch
Price: $599
CPU: AMD Trinity APU
Weight: 4 lb
Thickness: ~19.8 mm
Screen: 15.6-inch 1366x768 pixel
Memory: 4 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
Storage: 320 GB HDD
Connectivity: 802.11a/g/n, gigabit ethernet
Ports: HDMI, USB 3.0 x2, USB 2.0 x1, SD card reader
Extras: Beats Audio

The actual ultrabooks from HP will come in two flavors -- the Envy Ultrabook, the mid-range model, and the Envy Spectre XT Ultrabook, the flagship model.

These designs are as follows:

HP Envy Ultrabook (14-inches): May 9 launch
Price: $749 (Sandy Bridge) ~$849 (Ivy Bridge)
Weight: 4 lb
Thickness: ~19.8 mm
Screen: 14-inch 1366x768 pixel
Memory: 4 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
Storage: 500 GB HDD + 32 GB NAND cache
Connectivity: 802.11a/g/n, gigabit ethernet
Ports: HDMI, USB 3.0 x2, USB 2.0 x1, SD card reader
Extras: Beats Audio

HP Envy Ultrabook (15.6-inches): May 9 launch
Price: $799 (Sandy Bridge) ~$899 (Ivy Bridge)
Weight: 4 lb
Thickness: ~19.8 mm
Screen: 14-inch 1366x768 pixel
Memory: 4 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
Storage: 500 GB HDD + 32 GB NAND cache
Connectivity: 802.11a/g/n, gigabit ethernet
Ports: HDMI, USB 3.0 x2, USB 2.0 x1, SD card reader
Extras: Beats Audio
HP Ultrabook
HP Envy Spectre XT (13.3-inches): June 8 launch
Price: $999
CPU: Ivy Bridge (third generation Core i-Series processor) 
Weight: 3 lb
Thickness: 14.5 mm
Screen: 13.3-inch 1366x768 pixel
Memory: 4 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
Storage: 128 GB SSD
Connectivity: 802.11a/g/n, gigabit ethernet, 2x2 WLAN, Bluetooth 3.0
Ports: HDMI, USB 3.0 x1, HDMI
Extras: Beats Audio, Adobe System Inc.'s (ADBE) Photoshop (full), and Symantec Corp.'s (SYMC) Norton Internet Security (full)

Spectre XT black

The body designs for all the models are relatively similar with sleek brushed metal (black or silver available) cases colored in black or silver hues.  The Ivy Bridge models do not come with discrete graphics by default, but customers can pay extra to get a discrete GPU.  Larger hard drives or more memory are among the other customization options consumers can pony up extra cash for.

Ultimately, the AMD vs. Intel Ivy Bridge thin notebooks are shaping up to be much as what thought -- the Intel will be slightly thinner and lighter, but will be well over $1,000 USD with discrete graphics added.  By contrast, an AMD Sleekbook with matching performance (other than the slower HDD) will start at ~$600.  Build quality (packaging) will be almost identical for both competing designs, other than size and weight.

DailyTech's poll indicated that the majority of people would prefer an AMD ultrathin to an Intel one (the vote was nearly 2-to-1 with over 3,500 votes cast), given the price and graphics difference, assuming battery life and build quality were the same.  Of course the majority will have to wait a month to get their wish, while the vocal enthusiast minority can get their Ivy Bridge Ultrabook dream machine today.

HP's new ultrathins and similar ilk from rivals all closely parrot Apple Inc.'s (AAPL) iconic MacBook Air design, which was arguably the first true metal body-encased ultrathin.  When the Air launched in 2008 many mocked its lack of an internal optical media drive and predicted weak sales.  After Apple wowed with MacBook Air sales, the tune quickly changed, as evidenced by the fact that the Envy Sleekbooks, Envy Ultrabooks, and Envy Spectre XT carry nary an internal optical media drive.

Sources: HP [Press Release], [Spectre XT Product Page]



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RE: Won't be buying w/ such poor resolution.
By Apone on 5/9/2012 12:16:00 PM , Rating: 2
- Well that's great but ultra-high resolution monitors have been around for years before the iPad. Interesting how Apple fans don't consider it important until Apple says so (since you just referenced the 2048 x 1536 iPad resolution).

- Macbooks have great resolution? Let's see, it's 1366 x 768 for the 11-inch MB Air, 1440 x 900 for the 13-inch MB Air, 1440 x 900 default res for the 15" Macbook Pro (1680 x 1050 is $100 more). You can't even get WUXGA 1920 x 1080 res unless you drop $2499 (base price) for the bulky 17-inch MB Pro. My 15.6" Dell XPS 15 has 1920 x 1080 res and it only cost me $850.

1366 x 768 - I agree, major fail
1440 x 900 - slightly less fail
1680 x 1050 - Meh
1920 x 1080 - Bada$$!


RE: Won't be buying w/ such poor resolution.
By Taft12 on 5/9/2012 3:40:15 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
ultra-high resolution monitors have been around for years before the iPad. Interesting how Apple fans don't consider it important until Apple says so (since you just referenced the 2048 x 1536 iPad resolution).


Look, I'm no Apple fan, but they've offered "Cinema Display" monitors in higher-than-standard resolutions for over a decade.

Pushing high display resolutions is one of their most important contributions to the industry AFAIC (while HP and the like are trying to drag us down to save costs)

Keep your Apple-bashing grounded in reality, there's plenty of opportunity for that.


By Apone on 5/9/2012 5:12:55 PM , Rating: 2
@ Taft12

- Please do your homework, you'll see my "bashing" is nothing but facts pulled directly from Apple's store site on my previous post.

- Explain to me exactly what "Cinema Display" is on an Apple monitor? What value-added technological benefit(s) does Cinema Display have? And please no Wikipedia references, everyone knows that's not reliable.

- Just to give you some perspective, my first Dell notebook was a 2001 Dell Inspiron 8100. It had a gorgeous 15-inch 1600 x 1200 resolution WUXGA display; can you tell me what commercially available reasonably-priced Apple notebook even remotely came close to having that kind of LCD precision by Apple back in the late 90's/early 2000's?


By Cheesew1z69 on 5/9/2012 7:03:15 PM , Rating: 2
http://support.apple.com/kb/SP79

Not that much different than any others? Seems not...


By mikeyD95125 on 5/9/2012 9:55:03 PM , Rating: 3
I think they do. More importantly, they are pretty much the only new laptops you can buy with 16:10 displays. I got my Dell 17 inch in 1900x1200 in 2009 right before they switched to the 16:9 displays.

If the manufacturers don't start offering better displays in the next couple years ill just have to replace my laptop with a MBP and run boot camp.

16:9...ANNOYING


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