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Nokia credit rating downgraded by a third firm

You certainly don't have to be an analyst to understand that Nokia is sailing through rough waters. The mobile phone company is still one of the largest phone shippers in the world, but devices it ships tend to be low-profit mainstream handsets rather than high-end and profitable smartphones.
 
Nokia has recently had some success with its Lumia 900, but that modest win isn't enough to turn around its fortunes.
 
This week, Fitch Ratings downgraded Nokia's credit rating to junk status. Fitch also said that the outlook for Nokia remained negative as market share continues to shrink. Fitch isn't the first to downgrade Nokia's credit rating either; the phone company has been downgraded by Standard & Poor's and Moody's as well. Nokia's ratings could be lowered even further if the company doesn't improve in Q2 2012 and beyond. 
 
"Given the potential headwinds facing the company, Fitch is currently not convinced that Nokia can attain this over the course of 18 months," it said in a statement.

 
Reuters reports that Nokia issued a statement showing its cash position at $6.4 billion as of the end of March. Apparently, that was an attempt to show investors and analysts that the company is sitting on a cash stockpile despite poor market share. 
 
"Nokia will continue to increase its focus on lowering the company's cost structure, improving cash flow and maintaining a strong financial position," Chief Financial Officer Timo Ihamuotila said.
 
Fitch believes that that cash reserve Nokia has right now could be completely depleted over the next 18 months thanks restructuring charges and negative cash flow. Nokia is taking a battering in the smartphone market because it has been unable to compete with high-end offerings from Apple and the hoards of Android smartphones available.
 
Nokia has hopes of turning around with this new smartphones such as the Lumia 900 on AT&T and other new devices coming this year.

Source: Reuters



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Convince dump, buy, then pump.
By Mitch101 on 4/24/2012 12:29:53 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Nokia is taking a battering in the smartphone market because it has been unable to compete with high-end offerings from Apple and the hoards of Android smartphones available.
Maybe they missed the memo the devices are selling out?




RE: Convince dump, buy, then pump.
By Mitch101 on 4/24/2012 12:36:40 PM , Rating: 2
Where is this article?

Apple's Weak iPhone Sales an Ominous Sign for Earnings
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/apples-weak-iphone-s...

Apple's (AAPL - News) coveted handset, announced it activated 4.3 million iPhones in the first quarter, a sharp decline from 7.6 million in the fourth quarter.


RE: Convince dump, buy, then pump.
By kleinma on 4/24/2012 12:49:26 PM , Rating: 2
I am no apple fan, but 4th quarter is always the biggest due to the holiday season, so it is better to look at how many iPhones were activated 1st quarter last year versus this year.

Also remember you got tons and tons of people upgrading to a 4s from a 4 or 3gs, and giving those older iPhones to friends and family (or selling them on craigs list/ebay) because they are still perfectly fine for most uses. Those don't count into apple sales, even if now those people will become iPhone users for the long haul.

I really like the 900, but I don't think it is a "killer" handset. I think perhaps when WP8 devices ship, I will make the move.


RE: Convince dump, buy, then pump.
By jnemesh on 4/24/12, Rating: 0
RE: Convince dump, buy, then pump.
By kleinma on 4/24/2012 12:51:38 PM , Rating: 2
That sales figure smells like you pulled it out of your ass. Is that where it came from?


RE: Convince dump, buy, then pump.
By jnemesh on 4/24/12, Rating: -1
RE: Convince dump, buy, then pump.
By Mitch101 on 4/24/2012 1:22:22 PM , Rating: 2
It all started somewhere just like droid did and no one took them seriously now where are they? It appears the Nokia 900 was the phone to get it going.

There is noise coming from AT&T and Nokia just wait for it from Microsoft when Windows Phone 8 hits.

Wait till the fall when Verizon drops the hammer.

Microsoft gets a lot of money from droid sales too and samsung alone outsells iPhone.


RE: Convince dump, buy, then pump.
By kleinma on 4/24/2012 4:16:20 PM , Rating: 2
I don't really know what sales numbers need to be for it to be considered a success. I don't think anyone (including Nokia and MS) expect to put up iPhone sized numbers out of the gate. There is too much competition, and too many people already in the android an iOS camps now. However, it doesn't need to move 5 million units to consider it a success and know they are going in the right direction.

The only reason Elop would get the boot is if the shareholders actually thought going Android was a better route that going WP7. I don't think anyone thinks that right now, and waiting for the outcome of the Oracle/Google trial, it might turn out really bad for anyone who DID choose android and went all in.


RE: Convince dump, buy, then pump.
By Mitch101 on 4/24/2012 1:45:06 PM , Rating: 2
Number from Reported sources.

AT&T said it had activated 4.3 million iPhones in the quarter
http://www.dailytech.com/ATT+Posts+Strong+Earnings...

AT&T, the original carrier of Apple iPhone, did outsell Verizon Wireless in iPhones, posting 4.3 million activations vs. 3.2m activations

The Nokia Lumia 900 on AT&T is selling at a run rate of 1 million units for Q2 2012 - Another analyst put
http://www.intomobile.com/2012/04/24/nokia-lumia-9...

Thats One Nokia Windows Phone for every four iPhones sold. 20% or 25% depending on how you look at it and this is just the beginning. Like I said wait till Verizon.

Nokia just launched the white lumina 900.


RE: Convince dump, buy, then pump.
By fishman on 4/25/2012 8:03:15 AM , Rating: 2
Sold out at a price of free with 2 year contract. HP sold a ton of tablets when they slashed their price.


RE: Convince dump, buy, then pump.
By InvertMe on 4/25/2012 9:42:29 AM , Rating: 2
EVERYONE knows that this push is just the start and that Nokia will not sell as many phone as iPhone or Android. Save your hate for something that matters - like clowns. Grrrr clowns.


RE: Convince dump, buy, then pump.
By JackBurton on 4/24/2012 1:10:06 PM , Rating: 2
lol, that was great! :)


RE: Convince dump, buy, then pump.
By Samus on 4/24/2012 6:55:59 PM , Rating: 2
Microsoft played this hand pretty well. Soon they will have an excellent phone manufacture with global recognition for quality at pennies on the dollar.


RE: Convince dump, buy, then pump.
By nafhan on 4/24/2012 1:51:04 PM , Rating: 4
Selling out = they didn't make enough/provide enough to dealers, which in turn means they either:
A) Underestimated demand
B) Don't have the capacity to produce enough phones

In other words, "selling out" doesn't really tell you much about how many they sold* or how much money they made without additional info. I hope Nokia/WP7 does OK. Not a big fan myself, but a third strong player will keep Apple and Google on their toes, which is good for everyone, IMO.

*I did see the number 2 million in a couple places, but there didn't seem to be a lot of confidence attached to that number...


RE: Convince dump, buy, then pump.
By InvertMe on 4/25/2012 9:41:11 AM , Rating: 2
I think it was 2 million at the end of the quarter. Which is entirely possible given the push and praise the general public is giving Nokia/WP (per reviews found online).


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