Reports: No Windows Phone 8 "Apollo" Upgrade for Nokia Lumia 900?
April 23, 2012 11:12 AM
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Lack of upgrade path gives cause to pause, but may not affect the average buyer significantly
While the official party line from Microsoft Corp. (
) is that it has not announced whether there will be an upgrade path for
Windows Phone 7.5 (
handsets, such as the
Lumia 900 LTE
by Nokia Oyj. (
), to future operating system versions, the rumor-mill is abuzz that the answer is "no".
I. No Upgrade Path for Windows Phone Mango
No one knows precisely when the next version of Windows Phone will land. But
leaked slides from 2011
point to a Q2 launch of a lightweight variant (
) and a Q4 (likely October
alongside Windows 8
) launch of the next high-end release --- Windows Phone 8 (code-name:
devices like the Lumia 900 finally
starting to appeal from an aesthetics and hardware perspective
, the question on the minds of many is whether these second-generation Windows Phones will be compatible with the third-generation
Again, there's been no official word from Microsoft, but signs pointing to "no" began when blog
interviewed Microsoft developer-cum-WP promoter Nuno Silva, who claimed that the devices would be eligible for upgrade:
That possibility was cast into serious doubt, when Mr. Silva posted a blog followup retracting his claim and apologizing. In
I recently participated in an interview with the Portuguese website Zwame, where I made some comments on the future of Windows Phone that created confusion. Rumors are swirling, so I feel the need to clarify my statements.
The point I was attempting to make was simply that existing Windows Phone applications will run on the next version of Windows Phone. This is the same guidance that Microsoft shared late last year.
I mistakenly confused app compatibility with phone updateability, which caused the rumors we saw yesterday. I did not intend to give the impression I was offering new guidance on any products under development or their upgradeability.
While there has been no official word, that denial coupled with reports from top reporters with ties to Microsoft --
SuperSite for Windows
' Paul Thurrott [
-veteran Mary Jo Foley [
's Dieter Bohn [
] -- indicates that it’s unlikely that any
device will receive an
Paul Thurrott offers perhaps the most insight, writing:
First, there’s no economic imperative; Microsoft’s partners have sold very few Windows Phones, and supporting a new platform on legacy hardware would be expensive. Second, the experience would be terrible; Windows Phone 8 is based on Windows 8, not Windows Phone 7.x, and requires headier, higher-end hardware with two or more core processors. Third, handset makers and wireless carriers would never support this upgrade; they want to sell new phones. And finally, wireless carriers would never, ever, ever, ever deliver this update to users.
Of course Microsoft has already made it absolutely clear that
will continue to received patches and updates -- including bug-fixes, performance enhancements, and security-updates -- until end-of-life (EOL). So, no upgrade does not mean "no update", by anyone's estimation.
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I think Paul is wrong.
4/23/2012 2:04:14 PM
There are too many reports of developers running WP8 on current gen phones to rule out the possibility of an upgrade. It even runs on the Lumia 610 but not well.
Really though we can speculate forever but until Microsoft lays out the plan we just don't know.
I think the reason for the silence is partly because it's not a simple yes or no answer. I am sure if current gen phones get Apollo there will be some caveats. These things more than likely still being worked on by Microsoft and vendors. Also Microsoft stated they will be playing with it's Apollo cards close to the chest. They don't want to give Android and Apple time to make sure they offer all the same features. Without some last minute surprises there can be no WOW factor when the phone hits the market.
All that said - I still think my current gen mango powered Windows Phone offers the best user experience out there and will continue to do so regardless if it gets Apollo or not.
This whole upgrade issue is much ado about nothing amyways. You don't see people crying about their Android phones not getting ICS. They just use what they have and buy new hardware when upgrade time comes. As for Apple upgrading it's older hardware, the 3gs runs like crap with new versions of iOS. It would have been better just to leave them behind. If Microsoft cannot make WP8 run well on current hardware I don't want it.
I have to cut this short.. work calls but I'll finish my post after!
RE: I think Paul is wrong.
4/23/2012 2:53:00 PM
My iphone offers the best user experience as I can play Galaxy on Fire 2, make free voip phone calls with Viber (works MUCH better than skype, and you don't have to be online to receive a call), and then check my bank and brokerage accounts, even trading stocks if I want to, without visiting clumsy websites, since they ALL have free iOS apps.
"Mac OS X is like living in a farmhouse in the country with no locks, and Windows is living in a house with bars on the windows in the bad part of town." -- Charlie Miller
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