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One provision in this bill would allow the IRS to take away the passports of US citizens

The U.S. Senate recently passed a new highway bill dubbed the "Moving Ahead for Progress in the 21st Century Act", otherwise known as MAP21. The legislation made it through the Senate without much in the way of resistance and is expected to pass the House as well moving to the White House where Obama is likely to sign it into law.
 
Once the bill becomes law, all new 2015 model year vehicles will have to have complicated black boxes to record vehicle data. The black boxes are formally known as event data recorders and would be able to record information leading up to and shortly after an accident.
 
The CFR 49 provision of MAP21 would allow the data recorded to be retrieved by the owner of the vehicle or by courts in the event of legal proceeding. Presumably, that information can be gathered to determine if the vehicle or driver was at fault in an accident resulting in a fatality or severe injury and it would seem the data could be called into court in the event that someone attempts to fight a traffic ticket.
 
“Not later than 180 days after the date of enactment of this Act, the Secretary shall revise part 563 of title 49, Code of Federal Regulations, to require, beginning with model year 2015, that new passenger motor vehicles sold in the United States be equipped with an event data recorder that meets the requirements under that part,” states the bill.
 
CFR 49 reads in full:
(2) PRIVACY- Data recorded or transmitted by such a data recorder may not be retrieved by a person other than the owner or lessee of the motor vehicle in which the recorder is installed unless–
 
(A) a court authorizes retrieval of the information in furtherance of a legal proceeding;
 
(B) the owner or lessee consents to the retrieval of the information for any purpose, including the purpose of diagnosing, servicing, or repairing the motor vehicle;

(C) the information is retrieved pursuant to an investigation or inspection authorized under section 1131(a) or 30166 of title 49, United States Code, and the personally identifiable information of the owner, lessee, or driver of the vehicle and the vehicle identification number is not disclosed in connection with the retrieved information; or

(D) the information is retrieved for the purpose of determining the need for, or facilitating, emergency medical response in response to a motor vehicle crash.
Information can also be obtained from vehicles in the event of an investigation or inspection conducted by the Secretary of Transportation. The big push for black boxes in vehicles started when Toyota vehicles were blamed for unintended acceleration. Toyota argued it was driver error and in cases where vehicle operators died in the resulting accident, there was no way to know what happened in the absence of a device to record what was going on with the vehicle.

MAP21 is also notable because there is a provision attached that would allow the IRS to strip Americans of their passports restricting foreign travel if they owe enough tax money. That unpaid tax liability threshold is said to be $50,000. 

Sources: Infowars, The Truth About Cars



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RE: Hooray for the nanny state
By Reclaimer77 on 4/20/2012 12:35:28 PM , Rating: 3
Okay then the Bush Administration were fascists too! Okay happy? Now can I go back to discussing the actual RELEVANT group of lawmakers and fascists in power today?

Thanks :)

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The Patriot Act is the most radical legislation ever passed but check through the comments on related articles and look for references to fascism.


LMAO!! That is SO funny. How can you pretend the Patriot Act and Bush weren't called fascists, dictators, etc etc. All those years of Bush/Cheney hate, really, how dare you sit here today and say that didn't happen.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/apr/24/usa.co...

"From Hitler to Pinochet and beyond, history shows there are certain steps that any would-be dictator must take to destroy constitutional freedoms. And, argues Naomi Wolf, George Bush and his administration seem to be taking them all "

In fact Ron Paul, a pretty well respected a quotable guy around here, said the Patriot Act had moved us into "soft fascism". So please tayb, don't sit here and pretend that ONLY Conservatives who "hate Obama" drag that term up. MSNBC almost DAILY used it when Bush was in office.

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Labeling Democrats as fascists is not reasonable dialogue.


Who cares? It's effective! We can debate about what they were and were not once they're out of office, and their agenda has been defeated. If we don't stop this kind of thing right now, today, it won't MATTER what definition it fits under later.


RE: Hooray for the nanny state
By Etsp on 4/20/2012 12:50:52 PM , Rating: 2
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Labeling Democrats as fascists is not reasonable dialogue.
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Who cares? It's effective!
That, right there, is the biggest problem facing American politics today. The reason you hate democrats so much (and democrats hate republicans so much), is this attitude that is shared by so many (Fox News, MSNBC, Limbaugh, Beck, Maher, etc.). Though, as an evil moderate centrist, I can name far more people on the right as examples than I can on the left.


RE: Hooray for the nanny state
By Reclaimer77 on 4/20/2012 12:58:48 PM , Rating: 2
I didn't call ALL Democrats fascists. I said the Progressive Liberal movement WAS grounded in fascism. And I'll stand by that.

You can be as esoteric as you like. We're in a fight for the future of our country here. The damage that 4 more years of this radical agenda would do to our nation is incalculable.

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Though, as an evil moderate centrist, I can name far more people on the right as examples than I can on the left.


LOL I like how in a manner of a few sentences you turn around and hypocrisize (tm) yourself. By making this statement, you are in fact committing the same crime you accuse me of. Bravo.


RE: Hooray for the nanny state
By Iaiken on 4/20/2012 2:25:37 PM , Rating: 2
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You can be as esoteric as you like. We're in a fight for the future of our country here. The damage that 4 more years of this radical agenda would do to our nation is incalculable.


So what you are saying is that the ends justify the means?


RE: Hooray for the nanny state
By Etsp on 4/20/2012 3:45:01 PM , Rating: 2
What I meant by that was simply that the hypocrisy and the outright falsehoods were easier for me to spot on the right because I didn't agree with their conclusions beforehand. I think the majority of people have this blind spot. You're not going to try to dig in and tear apart an argument that your own views coincide with. (Unless you're trying to improve said argument.)


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