UK Carriers "Hate On" Nokia Lumia 900, Don't Even Try to Promote it
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"No one comes into the store and asks for a Windows phone." -- Euro executive
It's been a wild ride for Nokia Oyj.'s (
) first Windows Phone super-phone, the Lumia 900 LTE. The last week has
brought strong sales
, and even
a bit of respect
from the American market.
I. Sampling the Hatorade
reports that the increasing Nokia Lumia Windows Phone buzz is met with icy disdain across the pond in the UK. One of Europe's top markets, UK carriers appear to be giving up on Nokia's Lumia, after hardly giving it a chance to shine.
An executive at a European telecom who had been selling the
Lumia 710 and 800
, "No one comes into the store and asks for a Windows phone. Nokia have given themselves a double challenge: to restore their credibility in terms of making hardware smartphones and succeed with the Microsoft Windows operating system, which lags in the market."
The executive is quoted as praising Windows Phone for its "tons of cool" features, but then throws the OS under the bus, stating, "If the Lumia with the same hardware came with Android in it and not Windows, it would be much easier to sell."
The curious thing with the European carriers is that they claim to be frustrated with Google Inc.'s (
) Android legion and with the pricey iPhone from Apple, Inc. (
) -- a device that may never turn a profit for carriers. But when it comes to selling the Lumia's
reports that the carriers are
making hardly any effort
. Nokia's Windows Phones are tucked away in unseen corners and clerks peddle Apple iPhones and Samsung Electronics Comp., Ltd. (
) Galaxy phones on smartphone shoppers.
It's a tale of two continents. In Europe, carriers are still eagerly ponying up the 600 to 700 euros (~$800 to $900 USD) to sell iPhones to customers, despite the fact that they
may never turn a profit on the device
. Even Samsung phones are fetching an impressive 300 to 500 euros (~$400 and $650 USD) from the EU carriers.
Meanwhile, U.S. carriers appear to be adopting a different philosophy. Encouraged by discounted handsets from Nokia and Microsoft Corp. (
), the carriers are finally giving the platform a chance and pitching it to customers. AT&T reports strong sales of the Lumia 900 LTE, which is prominently featured in nearly every U.S. store. T-Mobile USA -- a subsidiary of Deutsche Telekom AG (
) reported that the Lumia 710, an entry-level Nokia Windows Phone, as
among its most popular handsets
II. Some Say Lower the Price; Others Say It's Hopeless
Richard Windsor, global technology specialist at investment bank Nomura predicted Nokia Lumia phones to take in 300 Euros on average. Their actual haul is about 220 euros on average. Yet, carriers seem to have no interest in these bargain devices in Europe and aren't even trying to sell them to customers.
The carriers seem to contradict each other. One executive is quoted as saying, "If they could lower the price we think they could sell more. It might be worth making it a bit of a loss leader to get it out of the door. It's not rocket science."
EU carriers are giving Nokia contradictory advice about how to bump sales, while reportedly putting little effort into trying to push the Lumia line. [Image Source: Nokia]
Another suggests that price is not enough. They state, "We can open our stores to them and train our staff to sell the phones, but that's it. Ultimately, Nokia and Windows are challengers and they either need to come to market with a really disruptive, innovative product or a huge marketing budget to create client demand. So far they have done neither."
The perplexing situation has to be particular frustrating for Nokia who is seeing accelerating U.S. sales, but has been largely scorned in its home continent. If there's one thing illustrated by all the European criticism surrounding the Lumias, it's that while EU carriers may complain about Apple and Samsung's profit-seeking, they really don't mind all that much or have much desire to seek out and promote alternative options.
That's bad news for Nokia and anybody who isn't named
Samsung or Apple
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RE: Jason Like Windows Phone
4/18/2012 10:54:24 AM
What everyone fails to realize is that there are literally no phones other than the Nexus out right now that have ICS. The new HTCs will have it but none of the others have been updated. Everyone talks how great droid is but they always point to the newest release of droid. But the update schedule is almost a year behind from when they release. Most phones may not get ICS by the time the update to ICS comes out in fall.
My windows phone works amazing and if people actually used it they would notice how much better overall the experience is. Everything is fluid and quick. I find when I used my android phone I was spending half my time on the phone just getting to where I wanted. As for apps they have almost every app I need and is fully integrated with all my social media so I can post and reply on the fly without SEARCHING for my app or scrolling around. My android experience has always been slow and jittery and they have dual core processors. It just shows how much android fails at it's OS management.
RE: Jason Like Windows Phone
4/18/2012 12:24:18 PM
My phone is a year old and it's getting ICS this month. The International release already has it. But I thought old Android phones didn't get "updates"?
ICS is brand new, I love how you're acting like it's been sitting around forever and the update schedule is behind. ICS isn't some routine software patch, it's a MAJOR update. Do you realize how many Android phones there are out there? Too many perhaps, granted. But pushing an update this massive across so many different hardware vendors and EVERY carrier is no small task. Microsoft and Apple have no way near the challenge that Google does in this regard. They each have a handful of phone models at best to worry about.
RE: Jason Like Windows Phone
4/20/2012 12:40:03 AM
If people want a better experience, they go with iOS.
If they want to have the flexibility to extensively customize their phones, they go Android.
Why would they even go with WP, with its pathetic app store and pathetic screen resolution over an iPhone?
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