U.S. Marine Faces Less-Than-Honorable Discharge After Criticizing Obama on Facebook
April 9, 2012 9:36 AM
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A Marine review board has recommended the dismissal
A United States Marine may be dismissed from the military for posting negative comments about U.S. President Barack Obama on Facebook.
Gary Stein, 26, a meteorologist at Camp Pendleton, posted on Facebook that he refused to follow orders given by Obama. These
comments were posted on a Facebook page
called the Armed Forces Tea Party.
This isn't Stein's first bout of trouble in the military. The Marine, who has served almost nine years including a tour of duty in Iraq, also got in trouble for comments that he posted on the Armed Forces Tea Party page back in 2010. At that point, he was simply told to put a disclaimer on the page saying that it was in no way affiliated with the U.S. military.
But this time, the Marines believe Stein has gone too far. After posting that he refused to follow Obama's orders, Stein later removed the comments saying that he meant only unlawful orders.
Now, a Marine Corps review board has ruled that Stein should be dismissed with a less-than-honorable discharge for his Facebook comments. This decision came after a 13-hour hearing and one hour deliberation by the board.
This recommendation will be sent to Brigadier General Daniel Yoo, who is commanding general of the Marine Corps Recruiting Depot. He is then expected to make a decision regarding Stein's fate within 30 days.
The Marines are taking Stein's actions very seriously, considering the fact that Marines take an oath to defend the Constitution and obey the Uniform Code of Military Justice, which means Marines cannot partake in political activities while in uniform.
Stein was due to either re-enlist or end his enlistment at the end of July.
This particular case is just another reminder that social media is being watched very closely by overheads such as employers and schools. For instance, employees and applicants at the Maryland Department of Corrections were
forced to hand over their Facebook emails and passwords
so that employers could take a look at their employees' private lives. Later, the government simply asked employees to log into their Facebook pages right in front of them. In addition, an Indiana high school student was recently
expelled for posting foul language on Twitter
, even though he supposedly tweeted it from home.
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4/10/2012 1:02:14 AM
It doesn't matter the person when in office. Additionally application of constitutional rights that an individual citizen have aren't applicable. Likewise there have been no "unconstitutional orders" handed down. Further more the ability to disobey orders within a situation do not extend to political ideology or belief; it's limited to the narrow set of scenario where atrocities and crimes are liable to occur.
I also think that connections made from this marines actions to Nazi's and WW2 are both inappropriate and as far away from the truth as possible. Stein may not agree with the president let alone like him, but his actions were indeed disrespectful and he was already warned. It's also getting idiotic to draw connections between freedoms of liberty and speech to an enlisted marine; one is entitled to specific rights and liberties while the other is not.
As the british say "mine is not to question why, Mine is but to do or die". Until something in the area of My Lai, extermination camps or concentration camps come up then we can bring up the "not following orders" argument again. But the President hasn't yet done anything that would warrant an unlawful order.
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