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F-35 taking off  (Source: Defense News)
Canada promises more due diligence on F-35 purchase

As the costs for the F-35 Lightning II program continue to grow, partner nations seem to be increasingly reconsidering their purchase of the aircraft. More than a few countries have said they would consider cutting back on the number of aircraft they purchase if the price continues to grow. Recently the lifetime cost of the F-35 program in the US was pegged at $1.45 trillion.
 
Some maintain that the costs of the fighter aren't growing as quickly as the numbers would lead people to believe because the U.S. government continues to change how they determine costs. Canada's auditor general accused the Canadian Defense Department of misleading lawmakers on the F-35 program costs this week.
 
Canadian auditor general Michael Ferguson asserts that military officials are so deeply committed to purchasing the F-35 that they did not "exercise due diligence" on the most expensive military procurement program in Canadian history.
 
“The department did not provide parliamentarians with complete cost information or fully inform decision makers about risks created by problems encountered in the (F-35) program,” he said.
 
“Only the most optimistic (cost) scenario was put forward,” and “key approvals (were) obtained after decisions were made.”
 
Canada still maintains that it intends to buy the 65 F-35 fighters, even though reports surfaced last month the Canada might cut back on orders. Canada intends to replace its fleet of CF-18 Hornets with the F-35. 
 
Canadian officials originally pegged the cost of the F-35 at $9 billion plus $7 billion for maintenance. Ferguson claims the true cost estimate is more in closer to $25 billion.
 
Ferguson also claims, “The department did not acknowledge that the decision to purchase the F-35 was well underway four years before it was officially announced.”
 
Ferguson isn't alone in his harsh criticism of the F-35 program in Canada; Democrat MP Christine Moore also criticizes the program. She said, "The government knew the F-35s were going to cost more than anticipated, but they intentionally hid it from parliament and the public." 
 
“This was an outrageous attempt to try and pull the wool over the eyes of Canadians.”
 
The Canadian government has pledged to freeze allocation for the fighter jet at the original $9 billion and turn the procurement process over to the Public Works ministry.

Source: Defense News



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RE: F-35 not needed by Canada
By TSS on 4/4/2012 1:40:37 PM , Rating: 3
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but you wouldn't want your aerial defense to have a tactical disadvantage in the event of a skirmish or border conflict.


It's canada we're talking about. What border conflicts? Some secret eskimo invasion?

The only country they're in danger of being invaded by is the US. Which has already done so, twice. And buying defensive weaponry from the only nation that poses a militairy threat, isn't going to work.

So i'd say either get top of the line hardware from another country, or considering that isn't availble, just go for the cheap option.


RE: F-35 not needed by Canada
By darkpuppet on 4/4/2012 2:14:33 PM , Rating: 1
*ahem* -- Last I checked, Canada burnt washington to the ground. twice.


By ltcommanderdata on 4/4/2012 2:35:17 PM , Rating: 3
Canada's actually making the War of 1812 Bicentennial a national event.


RE: F-35 not needed by Canada
By Geminiman on 4/4/2012 4:34:47 PM , Rating: 5
Hey idiot. (and i say this as a Canadian). Canada has never been in a war with the US nor burned Washington! canada didnt even exist for more than 50 years AFTER the war of 1812.

The British burned Washington. Of which upper and lower Canada was a small part.

Further contrary to Canadian textbooks the US didnt attack Canada, because it couldnt. They attacked Britian because Britian committed an act of war by hijacking US ships and enslaving US citizens to serve on British ships in their war against the French.

And yes Canadian textbooks are WRONG about the war of 1812. And I say this as a history teacher, because they treat Canada as a country when it was not.

The threat to Canada is the Russians and what they see as their land in the north. I could eqsily become a shooting war if oil is struck in the far north.

And as much as that worries me, what worries me more is that were going to use these to aid the US in their stupid wars against Iran and Syria like we did with libya. We dont need to be in American wars of agression. It makes us be hated worldwide and is evil.

And yes thats the reason for using f35s. They will integrate with American squadrons so that we can ligimize American wars for them.


RE: F-35 not needed by Canada
By FITCamaro on 4/5/2012 8:13:13 AM , Rating: 1
There people go again calling for historical fact.


RE: F-35 not needed by Canada
By Argon18 on 4/5/2012 12:24:45 PM , Rating: 3
Yes one country that had a terrorist sponsoring government who attacked the US on numerous occasions, killing thousands of people. And another country that had a leader on par with Adolf Hitler, killing hundreds of thousands of his own people and dumping the bodies into mass graves. Yes, the US wars against those two are clearly "wars of aggression". :rolleyes:


RE: F-35 not needed by Canada
By Natch on 4/5/2012 8:40:33 AM , Rating: 2
Pretty sure you're thinking of England.

The only conflict we've had with Canada was back in the war of 1812 (when they were still a colony of England), and the invasion & burning of Washington DC was done by the Brits.


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