Oracle Rejects Google's Settlement Offer, Aims for Android Ban in Trial
April 3, 2012 6:39 PM
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Software company holds out, hoping to bleed Google of more money
In U.S. District Court for the
Northern District of California
Magistrate Judge Paul S. Grewal
urged Google Inc. (
) and Oracle Corp. (
) to reach a settlement and licensing compromise in Oracle's
lawsuit against Google's mobile Android OS
Google, according to a
, had offered Oracle $2.8M USD in damages, a figure which Google acknowledged could grow if it loses the infringement trial (Oracle could make
as much as $100M USD
, according to recent valuations by expert witnesses). More importantly Google offered to license Oracle's two asserted patents in the case, at a rate of 0.5 percent of Android's revenue for one patent, and 0.15 percent for a second patent.
Oracle wasn't impressed, so it rejected the offer. A trial date was just set for April 16 at the San Francisco District Court. Judge William H. Alsup will preside in the trial phase.
In announcing that the settlement could not be reached and that the parties were headed to trial, Judge Grewal solemnly stated, "[T]he parties have reached an irreconcilable impasse in their settlement discussions with the undersigned... no further conferences shall be convened... [I]n the end, some cases just need to be tried."
He wished both companies' teams of lawyers "good luck" in the final battle.
Google has been dealt a bitter cup in the Java case. [Image Source: Oracle]
In the trial Oracle will try to establish that Google knowingly used the open source Apache distribution of Java, despite
knowing it was not validly licensed
and could be in infringement of Sun Microsystems' intellectual property, which Oracle inherited via its
$7B USD Jan. 2010 acquisition of Sun
Oracle's case is
built heavily around emails
indicating that Android managers were aware of this issue, but did not move aggressively to address it. Oracle also displays
Java processing source files contained in the Android repository
and how they allegedly reuse blocks of Sun's code, without holding a valid license.
Ultimately, Oracle's goal is to find Google is in infringement of its Java patents. While the damages (up to $100M USD) may not be huge, the licensing fees could be, if Google loses. It's unclear exactly how much Oracle can extract from Google in terms of licensing fees, given that Microsoft Corp. (
) is already raking in $10-15 USD per device [
]. With most Android devices already having narrow profit margins, and with Google only making a small haul on advertising, it's unclear how much revenue their really is for Oracle to gobble up, despite Android being the world's most used smartphone platform.
In addition, Apple, Inc. (
) is attempting to
ban Android handsets altogether
in the U.S., which may make licensing fees a moot point.
Google, on the other hand, will try to establish that Sun Microsystems knew about and verbally permitted its unlicensed use of Java. Google points to Sun Microsystems as having called Android a tool to "spread news and word about Java."
It quotes former Sun chief executive Jonathan Schwartz who
praised the launch of the unlicensed Android
as an "incredible" day for the Java family -- rather inconsistent language with Oracle's claims that Google flagrantly infringed on Sun's Java IP rights. (Oracle tried to delete the blog in which the former CEO wrote this, but was foiled by webpage archiving.)
We will keep you updated as the trial progresses ahead.
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Oracle don't want damages.
4/4/2012 9:31:28 AM
What they want is for google to lose this case, because that gives them the power to get android banned from sale (at least until java is removed or made legal).
Why? Because if google loses the case, they'll have to get a license for java (which is what they should have done in the first place from the look of it). Oracle get to decide the licensing fees, and they can ask for a high price *per device*.
Think about it - if android continues selling in huge numbers, and oracle get say $5-10 per device, what's worth more - that license deal, or $100m in damages? And if they win, they'll get the damages thrown in as a bonus.
They're not interested in getting java removed from android or 'killing android' or some crap the various fanboys dream up. They want it properly licensed, and they'll probably insist that it's compatible with regular java in future because that benefits them plenty too.
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