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Former president George H.W. Bush jumps on the Volt bandwagon

The Chevrolet Volt has been battered and bruised over the course of the past six months. The vehicle has weathered an NHTSA investigation into fires, attacks from the members of the media, and production slowdowns. However, General Motors is now touting that the plug-in hybrid had its best sales ever during the month of March.
 
According to Bloomberg, over 2,000 Volts were sold during the month, surpassing the previous high of 1,529 units in December 2011. GM also claims that it sold over 100,000 vehicles during the month that have an EPA rating of 30 mpg or better. Rather conveniently, GM only cites the highway rating instead of the combined rating to reach that 100,000 figure -- the EPA combined rating takes into account both city and highway fuel economy and is closer to what most drivers will see in the real world.
 
"GM's strategic investments in four-cylinder and turbocharged engines, advanced transmissions and vehicle electrification have been very well timed," said Mark Reuss, president of GM North America. "Three years ago, about 16 percent of the vehicles GM sold achieved at least 30 mpg on the highway. Today, that number is about 40 percent, and we have more new fuel-economy leaders on the way."


Former President George H.W. Bush bought a new Chevy Volt for his son, Neil Bush
 
In other Volt news, former Republican President George H.W. Bush bought a Chevrolet Volt. Fox News reports that the former president bought his son, Neil Bush, a Volt for his birthday.
 
In February, current President Barack Obama promised that he would buy a Chevrolet Volt once he leaves office. "Five years from now when I'm not president anymore, I'll buy one and drive it myself," said President Obama in a speech to members of the United Auto Workers in late February.
 
The Chevrolet Volt has a base MSRP of $39,145 before a $7,500 tax credit and can travel for up to 36 miles on battery power alone.

Sources: Bloomberg, Fox News, General Motors



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RE: Of course
By jegund on 4/2/2012 10:41:34 PM , Rating: 4
Absolutely not true for me. As owner of Volt #3371 with over 15,000 all electric miles and a 50 mi commute every work day, it works for me. On cold days below 40 degrees I drive about 35-40 on electric and 10-15 miles on gas. Today I drove 42 on electric. On warmer days I use no gas at all. The farthest I have gone on all electric is 54 miles. Last August I used no gas at all. Would have been the same for July too except for 2 trips to Maine.
You should test drive one.


RE: Of course
By Ammohunt on 4/2/12, Rating: 0
RE: Of course
By Jeffk464 on 4/3/2012 8:47:19 AM , Rating: 2
Uhm, electric cars are far safer than gasoline when it comes to fire danger from accidents. But the volt still has a gas tank so, eh.


RE: Of course
By mindless1 on 4/3/2012 12:06:34 PM , Rating: 3
You do not have any statistical information appropriate to make that conclusion. Therefore you are making up BS.

Did you consider that if any of the cells in the battery are ruptured, it may cause a violent chain reaction fireball?

Regardless, risk of death by fire in a vehicle is quite low compared to other trama resulting from a wreck.


RE: Of course
By gregpet on 4/3/12, Rating: 0
RE: Of course
By mindless1 on 4/4/2012 12:22:05 PM , Rating: 2
well I did misspell (or type) trauma but the fact remains, assumptions don't come close to proving things the same as years of data do. We will only see in retrospect a few years from now whether current battery powered vehicles are more or less prone to fire than current gen ICE vehicles.

Consider something else too. With electric vehicles you introduce a separate source of potential heat, degraded high current wiring and connectors from the battery pack to the engine.


RE: Of course
By ThreatcoreNews on 4/2/2012 11:09:47 PM , Rating: 1
See, for me - I don't have to plan on weather, distance, or if I want to run the heater. I can turn the key on my gasoline powered SUV and go wherever, whenever.

Don't try and play the economics of gas either. You will lose this battle: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/03/21...

I'll continue to spew CO2 from my SUV and be green which helps the plants - greenies should thank me:
http://icecap.us/images/uploads/Note_to_the_Admini...

....and don't try and play the temperature rise either - once again, you'll lose:
http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutemps/

Now go ahead and rate this down because it contains facts not aligned with the left.


RE: Of course
By slunkius on 4/3/12, Rating: -1
RE: Of course
By Jeffk464 on 4/3/12, Rating: 0
RE: Of course
By Qapa on 4/3/2012 8:25:57 PM , Rating: 2
I hope it will be rated down because it seems you have no clue about what you are talking about.

Nissan Leaf is electric and has a limited range, and takes (some/lots) of time to recharge.

The Volt has no range limits as you could eventually drive it only with gas!

Now that would defeat it's purpose of possibly saving you money in the long run and being green, but it has absolutely NO range issues.

So just read a little more, get informed. Maybe you'll even end up seeing that it would probably be cheaper than your SUV and save you money very quickly...


RE: Of course
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 4/2/2012 11:19:58 PM , Rating: 3
As much as I like the Volt technologically, the Prius C makes more practical and financial sense at half the price.

Plus it seats 5, has more rear legroom, and has more cargo capacity.


RE: Of course
By Shig on 4/2/2012 11:29:45 PM , Rating: 2
Why does this debate always come back to 'practical and financial sense'?

If everyone bought a car based on practicality and financial sense, the only cars that would get sold would be cheap ones with high MPG.

The entire point of the electrification of the US transportation fleet is so America can stand together and tell OPEC to #&*$ OFF.

http://www.thechargingpoint.com/news/Fox-News-does...


RE: Of course
By Reclaimer77 on 4/2/2012 11:42:45 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
The entire point of the electrification of the US transportation fleet is so America can stand together and tell OPEC to #&*$ OFF.


We could just as easily do that by drilling domestically and having an energy policy that's not dictated by..well...dictators.

If the point of the Volt is to tell someone to "F#$% off", no wonder it's such a sales flop. Do you believe the average consumer has this mindset?


RE: Of course
By slunkius on 4/3/2012 1:06:24 AM , Rating: 2
But there is no such oil source which could satisfy american appetite for long. the consumption is just too big, and with developing countries increasing their consumption too, prices will inevitably go up, because domestic drillers will happilly sell to highest bidder


RE: Of course
By Samus on 4/3/2012 2:41:02 AM , Rating: 2
I agree. It has nothing to do with practicality. For some reason, Audi's are the best-selling luxury cars in the world, when they are more expensive, less reliable, and half poor fuel economy compared to virtually every model class from Mercedes, BMW, Volvo, Lincoln and Cadillac.

What's practical about a $45,000 VW Golf that is the A4?

Nothing. But people keep buying the hell out of them. The AWD thing is a gimick, too. Most people will never take advantage of it, and I read awhile back that over 90% of Audi Quattro packages sold have the winter package declined, so they are driving year round with Summer or All-season tires at best. Any front or rear-wheel drive vehicle with Winter tires will outperform any AWD car with Summer or All-season tires in any task. Go ahead and ask anyone in Colorado, where the number of Subaru owners is the highest in the country, and almost all of them have high-quality all-seasons or winter tires. Many have studed/spiked tires, and the state requires you to carry tire chains in your vehicle at all times.

You could have a vastly superior BMW 3-series or Merc C-class for 30% less, without the poor fuel economy, crap ride quality and needless repair costs of AWD.

Don't even get me started on DSG transmissions...

Practical? When did that have anything to do with consumer decisions when buying a automobile. If everyone wanted a practical car, we'd all be driving a Focus or Mazda 3.


RE: Of course
By rich876 on 4/3/2012 8:21:37 AM , Rating: 2
A Ford Focus or a Mazda 3, you've got to be kidding. For one, the Chevy Cruze has it all over both of these cars.


RE: Of course
By Jeffk464 on 4/3/2012 8:44:34 AM , Rating: 2
BS, every review I have read places the ford focus at the top of the list. The Chevy has a solid beam rear axle, which is pure crapola.

Top three in this order
Focus
2013 Mazda 3
Civic

P.S. the Mazda 3 really got revamped with great gas saving technology for 2013


RE: Of course
By Keeir on 4/3/2012 11:24:36 AM , Rating: 3
Sigh.

quote:
For some reason, Audi's are the best-selling luxury cars in the world, when they are more expensive, less reliable, and half poor fuel economy compared to virtually every model class from Mercedes, BMW, Volvo, Lincoln and Cadillac.


Errr... I am pretty sure that

A. BMW sells more each year than Audi
B. Lincoln is clearly an inferior car than most Audis
C. Audi's are cheaper than Mercedes, BMW, Lincoln, or Cadillac in the US priced equal to equal
D. Audi's have better fuel economy (typically) than the above brands.

quote:
What's practical about a $45,000 VW Golf that is the A4?


A. Wheel base of VW Golf, 101.5" and a Transverse Engine Layout
Wheel base of A4, 110.6" and a Longitudal Engine Layout

ERRRRRRRRRR... What?

B. Also note that in the US, the A4 bases ~33,000. Oh you mean the V6 powered S4 is in some way the same thing as a I5 powered VW Golf? Confused.

quote:
The AWD thing is a gimick, too. Most people will never take advantage of it, and I read awhile back that over 90% of Audi Quattro packages sold have the winter package declined, so they are driving year round with Summer or All-season tires at best.


A. All Wheel Drive doesn't require Winter Tires. Winter requires Winter Tires.
B. You mention Subaru. Subaru is the same boat. 100% of Subaru's are sold withou winter tires. Its not even an "option".

quote:
Any front or rear-wheel drive vehicle with Winter tires will outperform any AWD car with Summer or All-season tires in any task.


A. What? No. Only during "winter" conditions.

quote:
You could have a vastly superior BMW 3-series or Merc C-class for 30% less, without the poor fuel economy, crap ride quality and needless repair costs of AWD.


A. Current price of a BMW 335xi sedan is the same as S4. Current price of a BMW 328xi sedan is higher than most A4s. Oh and the EPA rated Fuel Economy is essentially the same.

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All in all, WTF. The article and all comments are not about any VW Group product. Or any BMW/Mercedes/German product. Or any luxury class product.

Why the hate friend? Own an Audi that had a big repair bill? Made to feel like less of a man by an Audi owner?

Maybe either address the article, address the comment, or address what is making you angry instead of all the misguided and completely unfounded hate.

Audis are relatively expensive. But they are

A. Cheaper in the US than most "luxury" cars
B. Have the same fuel economy and feature set
C. Sell in less numbers (US) than Mercedes, BMW, or Caddy (and Lexus)
D. Share a limited amount of parts with VW group other brands (excluding the A3, which does share the same platform as the Golf)
E. Reliability is just slightly worse than BMW (US) and Mercedes (US) according to most sources, though Mercedes has been getting marked better in the US


RE: Of course
By Spuke on 4/3/2012 4:42:34 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I agree. It has nothing to do with practicality.
There's more Camry's sold than BMW's and Audi's entire lineup combined. Of course people buy mostly practical cars in the US! This is how we roll over here. There's not one luxury or sports car on the entire top 20 list of best selling cars in the US.

Feb 2012 Sales
Toyota Camry - 34,542
All of BMW - 21,204
All of Audi - 8,531


RE: Of course
By Reclaimer77 on 4/3/2012 6:56:58 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
The AWD thing is a gimick, too.


May you burn in hell for this.

Sent from Android phone via Subaru Impreza


RE: Of course
By Reclaimer77 on 4/3/2012 6:53:13 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
But there is no such oil source which could satisfy american appetite for long.


I love how it has to be ALL OR NOTHING! If we increase our domestic supply we could decrease our imports relative to that amount. We would also revitalize a crippled industry. It would also lower the cost of gas at the pump, that's a fact, the competition would drive crude prices lower. Stop buying the hype and look at the facts. This Administration has crippled our energy production industry, killed off thousands of jobs, and is costing us more money.

quote:
and with developing countries increasing their consumption too, prices will inevitably go up, because domestic drillers will happilly sell to highest bidder


WTF are you talking about? The cost of gas everywhere in the world is priced in US dollars. Oil is so high because our money is worth so much less with every passing quarter. Demand from developing countries isn't the only reason. And if we increased our domestic supply, we could buffer ourselves from these factors.

People don't "bid" on oil auction style anyway. Where do you get this stuff?


RE: Of course
By Reclaimer77 on 4/3/2012 8:35:23 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
The cost of gas everywhere in the world


edit: oil, not gas.


RE: Of course
By TSS on 4/3/2012 5:57:37 PM , Rating: 2
The point of the volt was to develop the technology for the volt 2, or whatever it'll be called. GM said long before tbe car was released and even before the bailouts it was never designed to make them money.

One could wonder wether that is a sound strategy for a company bleeding money as they did, but it's been their strategy from the start.

What i can't figure out though is all of the marketing around it. That i'm willing to attribute to the government takeovers though. Probably government not wanting to look bad in any way so they have to scream "look at how good it is!".

On a side note, nice to see ol' Bush in the news again. IMO more people could use a reminder what happened last time they voted republican (for the record; it got worse. No matter how bad obama is (pretty darn bad), it can always get worse).


RE: Of course
By Reclaimer77 on 4/3/2012 7:05:44 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
On a side note, nice to see ol' Bush in the news again. IMO more people could use a reminder what happened last time they voted republican (for the record; it got worse. No matter how bad obama is (pretty darn bad), it can always get worse).


What planet are you on? We don't need to worry about how bad things can get, we've been LIVING that since Obama took office. Are you trolling or serious?

The country started free-falling in 2006, when Democrats got their majority in Congress. That's what happens when you vote Democrat, things get worst.


RE: Of course
By TSS on 4/3/2012 8:52:46 PM , Rating: 2
Hah, no, you're trolling, like you always are, with the set in stone "republican" mindset. I tried discussing with you before, it is futile. You only hear what your republican masters have told you to hear.

I'd love to discuss my political mindset, the idea of compromise i have. Unfortunatly compromise is a word selectively forgotten in a US election year, and hardly remembered the rest of the time. Would it suprise you to know that i actually do support a republic as the only legitimate form of government outside of a oligarchy? That my country's form of government is actually a constitutional monarchy, which when you read it actually comes down to a republic? As well as having started out as a republic far before the US ever did?

For the very last time i shall entertain you and explain that i ment you should vote neither republican, nor democrat. I don't even trust ron paul since he's sided with the republicans, while last year he went at it independantly. Then he went back? I don't trust that one bit.

If you vote democrat next year, the 2013 federal budget will have a $1.8 trillion deficit. If you vote Republican, the budget will have a $2 trillion deficit. What is the logical conclusion? Cmon reclaimer, use that ol' dusty brain of yours.....


RE: Of course
By Reclaimer77 on 4/3/2012 9:29:35 PM , Rating: 1
???

Bush left Obama with a $440 billion dollar deficit. Not great at all, but good grief, Obama tripled that in ONE YEAR. And you're saying Bush is an example of how bad things can get? What's the deficit now, TSS?

quote:
If you vote democrat next year, the 2013 federal budget will have a $1.8 trillion deficit. If you vote Republican, the budget will have a $2 trillion deficit. What is the logical conclusion?


There's never been a single Republican Administration in the history of planet Earth who came anywhere NEAR deficits of that amount. What logical basis are you making such an assumption from?

quote:
I'd love to discuss my political mindset, the idea of compromise i have. I don't even trust ron paul since he's sided with the republicans


Great sense of compromise there lol. So if you side with Republicans on something, you cannot trust them. The irony. Do you know what "compromise" even means?

By the way your spelling, punctuation, and grammar are far too poor for you to be coming off this smug and condescending. If you want to take the intellectual high ground, come at me with something higher than a 4'th grade writing level please.


RE: Of course
By Dr of crap on 4/3/2012 8:30:46 AM , Rating: 2
But that $40,00 was worth it - huh?

I could buy 4 cars for that price! And get 30+pmg on all of them!


RE: Of course
By Qapa on 4/3/2012 8:53:26 PM , Rating: 2
LOL...

1 - No $10k car can compete in car features/luxuries/etc with Volt

2 - Unfortunately, those 4 cars with 30mpg won't get you a total of 120mpg :P

3 - You can't really drive those 4 cars at the same time... what is the usefulness of such comparison? None.

From reports I've seen people indicating, you can see reports of people having driven 1000s / 10k+ / 15k miles... and <10% with gas (in fact I'd say I've yet to see >5%, but I haven't looked hard).

Again, these 2 sentences are really different:
+ not for everyone => true!
- not for anyone => false!

In fact, more people would buy it if they understood it - most people (90%+) only know whatever few words they hear in some TV ad, unfortunately.


RE: Of course
By Ytsejamer1 on 4/3/2012 9:31:39 AM , Rating: 2
Good info. I look forward to testing one when my 2006 Prius has seen better days. I'm a few years away from that, so I am hoping the Volt or a better option from GM is still available.


RE: Of course
By Qapa on 4/3/2012 8:56:01 PM , Rating: 2
I'll probably do it in a couple months here as well (well, the Opel Ampera version, which is the same thing anyway).

In any case, it is free to try, and you always get better informed, so you could do it earlier ;)


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