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BMW i8 concept
Production version will push nearly 400 hp and scoot to 60 mph in less than 5 seonds

The first time BMW unveiled the i8 electric sports car concept was in July of last year. The vehicle had a very strange, but futuristic design that screamed concept car. Spy photos have surfaced of the i8 in winter testing wearing camouflage and much of the car appears to be dead on with the concept.
 
Car reports that the vehicle weighs 3,200 lbs and will be offered exclusively as a plug-in hybrid vehicle. The vehicle is a 2+2 with pop up doors that open the style that seems to be a mix of Lamborghini and DeLorean.
 
The i8 will use a 170 hp electric motor to drive the front wheels and a turbocharged 1.5-liter three-cylinder gasoline engine producing 223 HP and 295 lb-ft of torque to drive the rear wheels. Originally, there was talk of a gasoline-powered counterpart using a V8 or possibly a V10 engine, but that car is no longer part of the program.
 
The electric i8 plug-in hybrid will be able to travel 20 miles on electric power alone. It also has a projected average fuel economy rating of 104.2 mpg on the European Cycle.

 
With gasoline and electric motors combined, the car has 393 HP and 406 lb-ft of torque. BMW promises 0 to 62 mph in 4.9 seconds and a top speed of 156 mph.
 
The i8’s battery needs six hours to charge from a normal household outlet and higher voltage charger will be able to charge the batteries and under an hour. The i8 is expected to sell for over €100,000 and BMW expects to sell about 10,000 units per year. 

Source: Car



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RE: WOW
By bobsmith1492 on 3/26/2012 12:22:24 PM , Rating: 2
Nice simplistic analysis. Let's just say BMW sells lots of their cheaper models in their home continent and sends more expensive ones to North America, eh? Not economical otherwise.


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By hexxthalion on 3/26/2012 12:52:08 PM , Rating: 2
nope, what he meant to say is that BMW makes cars which are considered as standard in Europe and exclusive in US.

In the UK BMW is a standard car, not a rich man's car, the same goes for Germany.


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By Iaiken on 3/26/2012 1:14:09 PM , Rating: 3
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In the UK BMW is a standard car, not a rich man's car, the same goes for Germany.


Bingo! But that is because the wealth is not as concentrated at the top in Europe as it is in the states. In fact, if you look at the trends, income disparities in the EU are actually shrinking and class mobility is higher than anywhere else in the world.


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By borismkv on 3/26/2012 2:08:22 PM , Rating: 2
Which is also why the EU is going bankrupt. All the rich people are *leaving*


RE: WOW
By Iaiken on 3/26/2012 2:21:42 PM , Rating: 3
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Which is also why the EU is going bankrupt. All the rich people are *leaving*


That is quite possibly one of the stupidest things I have ever read.


RE: WOW
By Spuke on 3/26/2012 3:51:33 PM , Rating: 2
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Which is also why the EU is going bankrupt. All the rich people are *leaving*
Rich people aren't leaving the EU (that I know of) but that's not the reason for their troubles. The reasons for their issues are well known. I suggest Google.


RE: WOW
By Keeir on 3/26/2012 4:35:47 PM , Rating: 3
Wow: So much wrong.

Lets start at the Top

#1. In UK lots of BMW trims are available that never make it to the US. Mostly because BMW doesn't make alot of models in the US and its not (as) profitable to ship the less expensive BMWs here...

For instance, the base BMW in the US is the 328i with leatherette seats. The base BMW in the UK? A 316d with cloth seats. Based on the 328i cost comparison, a 316d would cost around 24,000 USD. HEY! That's an "Everyman" car price.

#2. The "EU" comprises 27 member countries with ~500 million people. Yet the car market is nearly the same size as the US car market... Hmmm...

#3. The "EU" non PPP per capital GDP is <36,000 USD. PPP is of course worse than that... There is quite simply a significantly smaller amount of wealth in general per person in Europe.

And no... the same can be seen in Median Household Income
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_household_inco...

So in the end, I guess you point is correct. If you significant reduce the households making more than 500,000 PPP, then you effectily "flatten" the curve. That doesn't mean that the lower rungs are pulled up though...

BMWs are an everyman car in Europe, because they sell for an everyman's car price in Europe.

The US average car price is ~31,000. This is the -cheapest- BMW available in the US. (BMW 128i Coupe)

In UK, the average car price is ~28,000 GBP. Which is right around the price of a BMW 128i Coupe (a model they don't sell, but the BMW 135i Coupe is ~32,000 GBP). BMW sells 1 series Hatchs, Coupes, Convertibles, X1s, 3 Series Saloons, Coupes, Wagons, etc for less than this...(IE, "under" the intro BMW USA model there are at least 7 body types in UK.)


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By Reclaimer77 on 3/26/12, Rating: 0
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By Iaiken on 3/26/2012 1:09:38 PM , Rating: 1
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BMW sells lots of their cheaper models in their home continent and sends more expensive ones to North America, eh?


It's not actually that simple really. The interesting thing about the lineup is that they pretty much sell them in the same ratios as the US (though they sell a lot fewer X-series SUV's). For example, the 5 series is targeted at 40,000 units for 2012 of which only 7000 will make their way to North America.

The difference is that there simply aren't as many people in the upper middle class in the US and everyone in the increasingly consolidated upper class wants something fantastically expensive. We're talking Ferrari 599 Fiorano, or Bentley Continental, Mercedes CL 65 AMG, Rolls Royce Ghost or the like. Shockingly, these $220,000 cars are the only ones that sold more units per capita in the US than in Europe. So in the US, the only people who buy BMW's wind up being bankers and junior executives that just can't afford a $220,000+ car, yet.


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By maven81 on 3/26/2012 2:28:59 PM , Rating: 2
"So in the US, the only people who buy BMW's wind up being bankers and junior executives that just can't afford a $220,000+ car, yet."

Well maybe new. But if you're talking used, I've seen an awful lot in the hands of 20-something douches, who fancy themselves as gangsters or something like that. 99% of the time when I see a car run a red light, or suddenly merge without indicators, or drive 30 miles above the speed limit, it's a BMW.


RE: WOW
By Iaiken on 3/26/2012 2:29:26 PM , Rating: 2
BMW doesn't really care that much about the used market. A lot of the nicer dealerships don't even carry used BMW's, they just wholesale them off to [insert name here]'s Luxury Cars.


RE: WOW
By Ronin on 3/28/2012 12:23:38 PM , Rating: 1
You guys lump all BMWs into one category. You could see an E46, and all you'd think of is it being a BMW, when you don't realize that body style got changed after the 2005 model year. You might even see an E90, which has LCI (Life Cycle Impules) and pre LCI.

Most of the 'gangster wannabes' you see are driving E36's and E46's....and they sure as hell don't represent the rest of us. Additionally, 99% of the time...seriously? I live in Southern California, and I promise you *I* don't see that....it's statements like this that make other people think this drivel is fact, when the real fact is, BMW drivers are no different than anyone else, aside from the fact that they're driving a BMW. Honestly, it sounds like you have car envy, and you're projecting. :)


RE: WOW
By Reclaimer77 on 3/26/12, Rating: 0
"Game reviewers fought each other to write the most glowing coverage possible for the powerhouse Sony, MS systems. Reviewers flipped coins to see who would review the Nintendo Wii. The losers got stuck with the job." -- Andy Marken

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