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Roscosmos is also looking to replace its current Soyuz and Proton rockets with a new rocket called Angara by 2020

Russia has laid out some lofty space-related goals in a strategy document issued by Russia's Federal Space Agency, known as Roscosmos.

By 2030, Russia plans to send cosmonauts to the moon as well as unmanned spacecraft to Jupiter, Mars and Venus. Also, Roscosmos is looking to replace its current Soyuz and Proton rockets with a new rocket called Angara by 2020.

Roscosmos' moon-related efforts not only include a manned lunar landing by 2030, but also the development of a space station in orbit around the moon. The idea behind this plan is to replace the International Space Station, which is only expected to stick around until 2020.

In addition to a trip to the moon, Roscosmos wants to send unmanned robotic probes to Jupiter, Mars and Venus by 2030.

Instead of using the Soyuz and Proton launch vehicles that Russia has used to carry loads since the 1960's, it wants to use the Angara rocket to complete such missions by 2020. Angara will be a six-seat spaceship that will launch from a new spaceport called Vostochny in eastern Russia.

Russia's ambitious space goals are a bit surprising considering the troubles the country has had lately. Last year alone, Russia had a Rockot launch vehicle fail to place a satellite in order correctly, a Proton rocket send a communications satellite to the wrong orbit, an unmanned Progress 44 supply ship crash on its way to the ISS, and a Soyuz 2 rocket crashed after launch in December.

Earlier this year, the Mars probe Phobos-Grunt finally made its way back to Earth after getting stuck in Earth's orbit two months previous.

Russia isn't the only one trying to get its space affairs in order. The U.S. is currently working on sending its own spacecraft to the ISS after NASA retired its space shuttle fleet last year. Since the retirement, the U.S. has been stuck having to depend on Russia to get to the ISS, which has proved to be a costly investment. American space transport company SpaceX was expected to be the first commercial company in history to dock at the ISS in February, but the flight was delayed for further improvements to its Dragon spacecraft.

In addition, the U.S. hopes to send astronauts to an asteroid by 2025 and Mars by 2030.

Source: MSNBC

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RE: Say what you want
By Reclaimer77 on 3/18/2012 4:14:48 AM , Rating: -1
Uhh the amount of money our Government is taking in didn't suddenly drop by $1.5 trillion. Spending under Obama went UP by a factor of 5! The CBO, economists, pretty much everyone agrees his budgets are, and I quote, "unsustainable". You really want to hand this Government MORE money? To do what with exactly? Seriously you couldn't possibly be less responsible and less efficient with tax money than they've been! It's time to ween this fat giant baby off the lifeblood of the American people and get back to a reasonably sized Government with Constitutional limits on it.

Not sure why you're making it seem like tax cuts are so terrible. Tax cuts in conjunction with massive spending cuts will fix this. Guaranteed. The Government cannot "stimulate" the economy with debt spending. That's been proven quite soundly at this point. But we CAN put conditions in place so that the economy will stimulate itself.

The most tragic thing is nobody will do anything to stop it.

Yes we are. We're voting Republican. We took Congress now we're going to take the White House. Sorry but you couldn't be more wrong about the candidates. Any one of them would be leaps and bounds better than Obama. Especially on the economy, our most alarming issue bar-none.
If he where to be elected there's no, NO way that moonbase will get built.

How in the hell is ANY President after Obama going to be able to build a moon base? It's going to take 8+ years just to undo this massive mess that he's going to leave us. Moon base? We'll be lucky if we have the money to launch bottle rockets!

RE: Say what you want
By TSS on 3/18/12, Rating: 0
RE: Say what you want
By Reclaimer77 on 3/18/12, Rating: 0
RE: Say what you want
By TSS on 3/19/2012 7:40:37 AM , Rating: 2
Once again you show your ignorance. That's why i rant. However way i put it, you refuse to pop out of your own plastic bubble to smell the ashes. Might as well freak out, atleast one of us will feel better.

First off, $1,78 trillion in 2003 was $2 trillion by 2007 thanks to inflation. So it's more like a 20% increase.

Which can easily be explained by the biggest credit orgy mankind has ever seen. Here's the consumer debt during that same period (in millions):

Sep 2003 2057090.79
Sep 2007 2490286.90

Funny now it hasn't increased since then, and your tax revenues haven't either. Infact, those have decreased. Maybe because the american people are about as fiscally responsible as their elected representatives? Which is why those representatives get elected in the first place?

Not to worry though! consumer debt has been on the rise again since what? late 2010?

Also, how about not linking a blog and linking *official* sites? I will take wikipedia however. With a grain of salt, but that's still better then the mountain you're presenting.

The tax base is massively shrunk

coming from a guy advocating tax breaks. Had to point that out. You still haven't looked up those historical tax brackets, have you?

The logic lol. Assuming this 80% number is legitimate, how is this a roadmap for a healthy country and economy

The logic is sound. That money doesn't simply vanish into thin air. Social security money goes to benifits payouts which then the benificiaries use to buy stuff, which is called "consuming".

And secondly, i never said it was healthy. In fact, if you look through my post history, you can see various posts about how the USA is systematically insolvent. All the way back to 2008. And even then i was already 4 years behind the curve.

And once again, i never said no cuts should be made. But, being the republican as you are, when i finally got through that when i said no tax breaks didn't mean tax increases, you took "no cuts" as "no spending cuts should be made". For a third time, your indoctrination sickens me.

Of course spending cuts need to be made. A good start would be all those militairy bases in germany. If anything, they are going to conquer europe through economics, not war, so i don't know what the hell those are still doing there.

Unemployment benifits also need to be dialed back. That'll be painfull yes but they've been ratcheted up too far to cover up the fact that your economy still sucks balls.

Here's a link you should check out. I don't think you have this word in your vocabulary yet:

RE: Say what you want
By TSS on 3/19/2012 9:01:29 AM , Rating: 1
OMG just realised, why am i asking for official figures.

I should know better then anybody that just about all the numbers out there are grossly manipulated. Ironically, the fed's numbers are the only "official" numbers reasonably close to the truth. next closest are shadowstats, and he's constantly bitching lately about how seasonal adjustments are even affecting his data.

How silly of me.

RE: Say what you want
By JediJeb on 3/19/2012 1:42:01 PM , Rating: 3
I gave a really long explanation on the tax/spending situation last week somewhere on here, and to be honest there are a lot of things that need to be changed but they will never happen because nobody has the guts to implement them. It would be political suicide for any politician and it would make most Americans tighten up so much they thought they were wearing pants 4 sizes too small, but you know what, sometimes it just has to be done.

One thing that has to go away is the fact that 50% of Americans pay no income taxes. It is simply impossible for the rich to carry all the burden of supporting the country unless you consider rich to be making more than about $35K per year and you are taxing them at a rate of about 35% of their income, every single person making above that amount at that rate! Those not making that much and who are also bringing in most of their income from government assistance will always accept that the government is right to do such things until they have to begin to contribute money, then maybe they will also begin to be concerned. Make all people pay at least some income tax, even have it taken out of their assistance checks. If everyone doesn't see it then it isn't on their minds, and stop handing it all back when they file taxes.

The second thing is to drastically cut the federal government's workforce. There are so many things that are duplicated or triplicated and unorganized it isn't even funny. Make pay and raises for government jobs performance based just as it is in the private sector and have them paying into retirement the same as private sector workers do, heck many if not most private sector workers now only have 401K retirement plans, why not the same for government workers.

We have become a society of grasshoppers when we need to be a society of ants. (for anyone too young to know that story just search "The Grasshopper and the Ant") The sad thing is that before long we are going to have to face up to how we have lived for so long now whether or not we want to. People like to talk about "The Great Recession" but that was nothing compared to "The Great Depression", we were not stagnated as a nation or economy for 10+ years like we were back then, and I hope we wise up before it happens again.

RE: Say what you want
By BillyBatson on 3/18/2012 8:31:31 PM , Rating: 3
With all your cursing and name calling nothing in that post is of any consequence. How about you mature a little before taking on a mature subject.

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