quote: however, my Prime's screen is far brighter than the iPad 2's or the 3's, and as such, I can use my ANYWHERE including in DIRECT sunlight...
quote: and the picture quality is as good or better than Apple's iPad 3s
quote: the Tegra 3 is quite potent for a mobile GPU
quote: and my keyboard dock lets me type documents on the go
quote: So... why do I need an iPad 3 again? Oh right, apps... screens filled with little icons instead of interactive widgets that I can simply glance at
quote: Because you've placed the new iPad side by side with your prime and compared? And in DIRECT sunlight too?
quote: Again, because you've taken the exact same photo on both and compared quality? Or are you just guessing.
quote: Well it's all relative. Whichever way we word it, Tegra 3 is a relatively slow GPU. Slower even than the iPad 2.
quote: You can get a keyboard dock for the iPad too.
quote: The point in the apps argument is that there are many functionalities which many people want which simply aren't available on Android.
quote: Wasn't it Apple who said not to use the iPad in direct sunlight because of overheating?
quote: Perhaps he's read the numerous reviews stating the Prime's camera to be the best camera on a tablet thus far?
quote: I'll use your own wording for this... Again, because you've played the exact same game on both and compared quality at the same resolution? Or are you just guessing. Since you're wearing the rose colored glasses, you might not understand the reference. The iPad 2's GPU has to push 786,432 pixels, where as the Tegra 3's resolution has to push 1,024,000 pixels on the prime. That's roughly a 30% difference. Is the iPad 2's GPU 30% faster? As far as the new iPad's GPU being 4x faster... well, it HAS to be. It's powering 3,145,728 pixels. This also goes into my storage argument later on, so stay tuned.
quote: Does said iPad keyboard have a mousepad? Full size SD card slot? USB slot? Built in battery? (btw, the Prime I was sampling easily got 3-4 days of moderate usage on the battery, not sure where you got your battery claims from).
quote: You don't quite yet understand the differences between where the Prime is going and where your beloved iPad is going. The iPad is a media consumption device. Always has been. To your defense most Android tablets are as well. The Prime is trying to blur that line and make the tablet more useful for creation scenarios. I've had the privelage to personally test a Prime side by side with an iPad 2, and the distinction is clear. There comes a point where an iPad user will say "I want to do x, but it's just not feasible with the iPad's input methods". For example, while I had the Prime, I was able to take a few pictures with my digital camera. After, I took my SD card out of the camera and put it into the Prime's SD slot (on the keyboard), loaded the pictures into Photoshop Touch, did some adjustments, and emailed them off to the people who needed them. I did NOT have to carry around a laptop or hunt for a computer with photoshop installed. Simple, easy, PRODUCTIVE
quote: No your point in the argument is someone has challenged your amazing new iDevice. You make blanket statements such as the one I just quoted, without backing it up with any proof. Which apps do people simply want, that aren't available?
quote: And widgets aren't useful? That's probably because you've never had them in the iWorld. Weather, News, Email, SMS, Music, Movie Times, Sports Scores, System Tools, Toggles, are all vastly more efficiently accessed via a widget than opening an app for each one. How easy is it to toggle WiFi on the iPad? What about looking up weather? Email? etc. Gliding from screen to screen on the Android homescreen can answer all these questions without ever opening an app.
quote: One final argument before I finish. Storage space. iPads don't have anything other than what's built in. While testing the prime, I had 32GB on board, 32GB in a microSD, 32GB on a full SD, and finally 32GB on a usb stick. I didn't get a chance to test the usb port for portable hard drives, so I can't comment as to whether they work or not, but all together, that's 128GB of space to play with. You may argue that the iPad doesn't need all that, but have you heard of the new Retina display? How small do you think building textures for that resolution will be? On Android a decent game can take 500MB, easy.
quote: We get it, you love Apple. While their new iPad is a great device for sure, it's not vastly steps ahead of the competition. I'd reluctantly recommend it to people who want a media consumption appliance, where they are guided on how they can use it and don't have many options to veer from the path. While the GPU on the iPad may indeed be the fastest available, it has to be just to keep up with the experience of other tablets that have already been on the market for months. It's still a step behind in the actual number crunching department, plain and simple.
quote: I don't love Apple at all
quote: Does that link from 2010 refer to the iPad 3? No.
quote: None of which will have tested the iPad 3 camera. Which is precisely my point. A complete you obviously missed.
quote: The relative benchmark speeds of GPU's has nothing at all to do with resolution. All benchmarks, ideally, such as those on Anandtech, are at the same resolution. Your comments about screen resolution are therefore completely meaningless. The benchmarks show that at the SAME RESOLUTION, the iPad 2 GPU is up to 2x faster than tegra 3. I therefore can evidence my logical claim that the Tegra 3 is relatively slow when compared to the GPU in the iPad 3 (which is theoretically 2x faster than the iPad 2 GPU). The fact that the new iPad has even more pixels is completely irrelevant too because it can render at iPad 2 resolution and upscale if required. And also because a GPU isn't measured by the device it's in - it's measured by the graphics it can produce relative to other GPU's when resolution is constant.
quote: You can get one with USB slots, SD cards, batteries, yes. Very easily, or a mouse accessory. But the original comment didn't say this, and neither did my reply. So your failed point is irrelevant. The bottom line is that in accessory terms, you'd struggle to find a device with more accessories than the iPad 3.
quote: Firstly - you say 'beloved' iPad. I don't own a tablet. Just because I am not so bitter about Apple that I can appreciate what they have developed like anyone logical, doesn't mean I love them or own them.
quote: Secondly - this discussion isn't about where devices are 'going', it's specifically about where they are now, comparing the iPad 3 to the Transformer Prime. Nothing to do with the future.
quote: Thirdly - there come points for Android tablet users every day when there aren't apps available when they want to do productive things. It's well documented how much fewer apps there are on Android and how they always come second. Your example of photo editing is pretty ironic given that Apples new software provides the ability to do precisely what you describe. Simply take the photo, plug the SD card into your iPhone SD adapter ($5), edit it using the iPhone photo editing software (very highly regarded). And of course, that photo editing happens faster due to the more capable GPU and in better quality due to the superior screen resolution.
quote: Fourthly yes the difference is immediately obvious because one is ugly, poorly made, lower resolution, slower, has a battery which dies sooner and has MUCH fewer apps.
quote: And yet, no one cares about Android Tablets/Phones with all these ports and memory slots and more storage...