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Ford is quick to point out how much superior the Focus Electric is compared to the Nissan Leaf

Ford officially announced its Ford Focus Electric at last year's CES. A little over a year later, Ford is announcing the EPA ratings for the 5-seat hatchback.
The Focus Electric is rated at 110 miles per gallon equivalent (MPGe) in the city and 99 MPGe on the highway (105 MPGe combined). Ford is quick to boast that the Focus Electric's combined rating is 6 MPGe better than the Nissan Leaf. For comparison, here are the combined MPGe ratings for some other electric and plug-in hybrids on the market:
Ford also points out that the Focus Electric has more passenger space, a faster charging system, and a slightly longer driving range (76 miles versus 73 miles) than the Leaf. However, while the Focus Electric may have better specs and economy ratings than the Leaf, you'll pay for it out of your wallet. The Focus Electric has a base MSRP of $39,995 versus $35,200 for the Leaf before a $7,500 tax credit.
“Ford is giving customers the power of choice for leading fuel economy regardless of what type of vehicle or powertrain technology they choose,” said Eric Kuehn, chief nameplate engineer, Focus Electric. “The Focus and Fusion are great examples of how we transformed our fleet of cars, utilities and trucks with leading fuel efficiency.”

The Focus Electric is powered by a 123hp electric motor and a 23 kWh lithium-ion LG Chem battery pack.
Ford recently announced that the upcoming Ford Fusion Energi would have an EPA rating of 100 MPGe.

Source: Ford

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Hey guess what folks!
By Dan Banana on 3/2/2012 8:17:48 PM , Rating: 2
If you don't like this car you won't be forced to buy it. Given this fact how about putting a halt to all the incessant whining about this and other electric cars?

RE: Hey guess what folks!
By corduroygt on 3/2/2012 11:23:45 PM , Rating: 2
Sure, we'll stop whining as soon as we are no longer forced to pay $7500 for each one of them sold.

RE: Hey guess what folks!
By Dan Banana on 3/3/12, Rating: 0
RE: Hey guess what folks!
By shin0bi272 on 3/3/2012 1:07:38 PM , Rating: 2
A) the democrats that run the senate havent brought a budget to the floor in over 1000 days so there isnt a 3.8 trillion dollar budget per se.

B) 7500 X 140,000 cars sold in 2011 in the us = 1.05 billion dollars for smug little leftist douche bags like you that believe cutting co2 will save the planet. So they can drive a car that wont pay for itself in supposed gas savings and has MORE of an impact on co2 production than an H1 HUMMER over the course of their lifetimes!

C) Some little commie lawmaker (chuck schumer I think it was) wants to RAISE the amount of the tax credit to 10,000 bucks.

D) only failing technologies have to be subsidized for people to buy them.

RE: Hey guess what folks!
By Keeir on 3/3/2012 3:13:15 PM , Rating: 1
Sigh. A little fact checking

A) Can't really disagree.

B) Lots here.

B1) Somehow, I really doubt that there were 140,000 cars that qualified for the full 7,500 credit sold in 2011. A little research suggests the number to be closer to 18,000 cars. Or 135 Million.

B2) Electric cars/PHEVs will pay for themselves with "gas savings" over a long enough period. I really can't see an argument here, unless you assume that gas will return to <2.50 a gallon.

B3) Over ~250k lifetime mileage, a 2006 Hummer H1 (most fuel efficient Hummer H1 produced) will use around ~17,500 gallons of Gasoline. Yes, 17,500. Add in the refining and transportation at we're at ~20,000 gallons. That's ~180 metric tons of CO2.

Over ~250k lifetime, a 2012 Focus Electric will use ~80,000 kWh of electricity and require ~90,000 kWh to be produced. Using the current state of the US grid, thats around ~60 metric tons of CO2.

Now, I think the difference of ~120 metric tons of CO2 production during use is probably way too great for other factors, but I would love to see some kind of paper or logic that shows otherwise.

C) I don't think you know what a communist is... But it's President Obama who is proposing the increase to 10,000

D) Both Diesel and Hybrids were offered subsidies. Both continue to sell despite the now lack of subsidies. That statement is not backed by empirical evidence.

RE: Hey guess what folks!
By Dan Banana on 3/3/2012 4:39:12 PM , Rating: 1
For years SUVs and other large vehicles were subsidized through tax policy and they very well may still be. Not only that the tax credit for hybrids and other high MPG vehicles started under GW Bush and a Republican majority. How odd it was then that we heard not peep one from the right wingers on that then. One can only conclude that this new found horror at car tax credits is strictly due to Obama being in the White House.

RE: Hey guess what folks!
By Dan Banana on 3/3/2012 4:24:08 PM , Rating: 1
Try again. This is not a tax expenditure, it's a tax credit. A credit that has benefits to the nation in freeing us from the clutches of the extremely destructive oil companies and all the security risks that being overly dependent on oil brings us. Electric cars produce far less climate changing CO2 and are well worth the tax credit to those that want to be early adopters. Eventually electric cars will be comparable in price to oil fueled cars but they need a leg up until then. The tax credit also allows middle class people to afford them not just the wealthy. Sorry if that gives you a case of the cranky pants but that's just the way it is.

RE: Hey guess what folks!
By Mint on 3/3/12, Rating: 0
"If a man really wants to make a million dollars, the best way would be to start his own religion." -- Scientology founder L. Ron. Hubbard

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