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The Pioneer BDR-101A Blu-ray recorder
$1000 burning a hole in your pocket?

For those who cannot wait to get on the Blu-ray train, Pioneer's BDR-101A PC Blu-ray recorder is just starting to trickle into the retail channel.  Tiger Direct has just listed the BDR-101A for sale at a mere $999.99.  Many analysts had speculated that Pioneer would drop the price of the BDR-101A significantly after NEC and Toshiba both announced PC HD-DVD recorders for under $500. 

The HD-DVD camp currently does not have a recordable device, nor media, but Toshiba currently has the only next-generation set top player available on the retail market, the HD-DVD Toshiba HD-A1 -- though the Sony Blu-ray BDP-S1 player is also expected to show up at your local Fry's, eventually.

Pioneer announced the device several months ago at the Consumer Electronics Expo 2006 in Las Vegas.  Recordable media was announced a few weeks ago, with single layer 25GB once-recordable discs checking in at $48, and re-recordable discs coming in at $60.

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What would you do?
By creathir on 5/18/2006 12:20:30 PM , Rating: 1
As a consumer, not a tech freak, what would you honestly do?

You walk down the new HD movie section of Best Buy... and you see HD-DVD for $30 (still a FREAKIN' RIP-OFF) and you see BluRay for... $50? Even $40... Which would you do??? You do not know the difference other than that both are HDTV, and one sounds like a DVD, and the other sounds like some sad little thing. You hear the Best Buy guy telling everyone how the picture is SO much better on the BluRay, so you say to yourself, I'll go ahead and pick up this one movie today. Then you make your way to the players... and you see the HD-DVD for $500... and the BluRay for $1200. You ask the clerk is there ANY way to get a cheaper BluRay player and he tells you to pre-order a PS3 for $499, but it will not be out until November 18th. You wanted to pick up a HD player for that new LCD you got, but are now going to have to wait until November to pay the same price that you will today for a different technology? You then ask the clerk the EXACT difference between BluRay and HD-DVD, and he tells you that some BluRay movies are 1080p (some geek term) while HD-DVD can only do 1080i. He asks what kind of TV you have, you tell him, and he informs you that it is only a 1080i/720p LCD. Should have known that $1500 LCD was not as great as you thought it was.

So, which are you going to adopt? Are you going to wait until Thanksgiving to watch HD movies? Maybe you will shell out the $1200 (almost the price of the LCD panel) for a technology that you really could not even use...
Or maybe you will make your way back to the HD aisle, and pick out some HD DVDs, and grab an HD DVD player.

As a consumer, the latter... the HD DVD solution is by far the most cost prohibitive, especially when you consider the TV you just bought does not even support the BluRay's technology that gives it an advantage.

You remember back to the early 80s... when VHS was just coming out... and your boss was BRAGGING about his Betamax player... about how it has higher quality, and how it will be what everyone uses. He claimed that the quality was so superior, it was worth the price tag.

- Creathir

RE: What would you do?
By bob661 on 5/18/2006 1:59:00 PM , Rating: 2
That was excellent creathir! That's exactly how J6P would see this. A little informed because he/she knows the tech exists but not a geek like us. I think since most people are of the instant gratification type, you'll see that customer buys the HD-DVD player and movies because he can have it today for a good price and it's almost as good as BluRay. With that $500 savings he can get more movies or some other auxillary equipment for his setup.

By jkresh on 5/18/2006 5:54:01 PM , Rating: 2
Unless I am very much mistaken hd-dvd can do 1080p it’s just the first generation Toshiba player that limits it to 1080i (I believe most if not all of the released movies are 1080p). So bluerays 1080p is not an advantage of the format just of the initial drives. So many people seem to think 1080p is blueray only and I know Sony keeps mentioning 1080p but if you look at the box of most hd-dvd discs that are being sold they even say 1080p on them so its not a format issue just a cost saving on the initial player.

RE: What would you do?
By MDme on 5/18/2006 7:27:59 PM , Rating: 2
"As a consumer, the latter... the HD DVD solution is by far the most cost prohibitive , especially when you consider the TV you just bought does not even support the BluRay's technology that gives it an advantage.

by cost prohibitive you mean???

Cost prohibitive means something that is too expensive. you probably meant cost effective.


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