Sources: SlashGear, The Detroit News
quote: Tesla received $40 million in pre-sales of the all-electric Model X
quote: Requires $40,000 USD Reservation Payment
quote: now.. tell me again why we need to be giving people who can afford to put down $40,000 in advance to somewhere down the road get a car get a $7,500 rebate.. being paid for by people in general who can not afford such a thing?
quote: Talk about something that I'll NEVER see the benefits of. Human spaceflight, really?
quote: Anyone support EV subsides or is convinced they're the solution, is coming from nothing BUT ignorance.
quote: Some of the best inventions from the space program would have been discovered in their own right in due time
quote: Some of the best inventions from the space program would have been discovered in their own right in due time or would have been found regardless replacing humans with robots. Advances in plastics, scratch proof glasses, memory foam, thermometers, communications, and battery tech (ironic) just to name a few would have most likely been discovered in their own right
quote: The idea that advancing EV technology is a waste but human spaceflight is not is silly.
quote: Stay away from the economic and engineering analysis. We all know you do not have the capacity to perform the analysis or the ability to find enough supporting data for your point of view.
quote: Just some advice.
quote: If I was for EV's you never would have said this. That's all this is about.
quote: I watch you stick it to everyone here regardless of position or opinion. Even on things you support.
quote: That makes you a troll. Probably the best one I've seen in years, but still a troll.
quote: The most I do is ask that people use facts and constant logic
quote: Facts can be twisted, so can numbers. I prefer to focus on the pure, righteous, and self evident truths to which I hold dear.
quote: Oh please when has Daily Tech ever been about science and technology? Almost every article here overlaps with politics or ideology in some way. And if not, that's usually where the discussions on them end up.
quote: And again, it's not blind belief. I'm 100% correct.
quote: When EV's are roaming the planet, Keeir, THEN you can say I was wrong. Only then, and not until then.
quote: Government should not pick winners and losers. (Ideology)
quote: Isn't inability to admit the possibility one is wrong considered on the symptoms of blind belief?
quote: Hmmm... EVs roam the planet right now. I saw 3 on my way to work today. Oh, and 1 PHEV. And do you count Electric motorcyles as EVs? Saw two of those. Guess I can say your wrong then?
quote: That's an absolute FACT. Please show me where the Constitution grants this power to the Government. Where?
quote: Is this your idea of being cute? You know full well what that phrase means.
quote: Government (even US government) existed before the Constitution.
quote: The position that the Constitution represents the high water mark for any and all government structure, is in itself ideology
quote: If you don't agree with the Constitution, we can just stop talking now.
quote: Did Lincoln follow the Constitution in his day?
quote: To claim any action outside Constitution is illegal and should be barred is an IDEALISTIC statement
quote: The US Government has only loosely followed the Constitution for hundreds of years.
quote: You're trying to make some moral relativist argument where ideologies aren't valid, so taking a stand on one is never a point of fact. Sorry sir, you fail on that. Ideology and facts are NOT always mutually exclusive.
quote: Hundreds of years ago we were NOT a "loosely" Constitutional country.
quote: If forced to choose between ideology and your apathy, I'll pick ideology.
quote: Because it gets the ball rolling on adapting electric vehicles, which everyone will benefit from, especially our children.
quote: We need rich people to buy EVs so that a nationwide network of charging stations can be built.
quote: Once the wealthy tire of this latest fad (and they will), they'll move on and Tesla will be out of business.
quote: LOL yeah by EV proponents logic, we should all be driving Ferrari's by now.
quote: Exactly. Once the Leonardo DeCaprio's of the world get their pre-order, then what?
quote: If people are buying the techonology, the techonology will advance exponentially.
quote: Why single out Tesla?
quote: This is a tax incentive. Not a hand out. Your taxable income is your income - $7500. At least according from what I know.
quote: So to say that the gov't is handing out money to Tesla owners is just not true. It's an incentive, not a free for all.
quote: a $7,500 rebate.. being paid for by people in general who can not afford such a thing?
quote: Two years ago this car was $100k. The base cost is already down to $57k.
quote: The super rich do not buy 40K cars really