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  (Source: The Pirate Bay via TorrentFreak)
No more torrents will help more content to be shared, render "copyright watchdogs" more toothless

The Pirate Bay has long been synonymous with one thing -- torrents.  The world's largest torrent site has had more than its fair share of legal headaches [1][2][3] over the years for promoting the ubiquitous file-sharing mechanism.  Consequentially on Feb. 29 in will be taking what on the surface appears to be a mind-blowing move -- deleting all torrents hosted directly on the site, which are being actively shared by more than 10 individuals.

But in reality this move is not as mind-blowing and drastic a departure from the site's operational model as some are thinking/hoping/fearing.

The site will continue to host the content, where possible, via magnet links.  All new content will be hosted via magnetic links.

The new approach is a "step forward in technology", according to the site's admins.  And it's the worst nightmare of the Recording Industry Association of America and Motion Picture Association of America.  

The Pirate Bay can now be compressed to a 90 MB torrent-free site, for easy hosting.  Under the new scheme scores of new users will be able to host free proxy servers for The Pirate Bay, helping it escape takedown attempts, local firewalls, or ISP restrictions.

At the same time The Pirate Bay washes its hands of any of the actual process of file-sharing.  It is simply hosting magnet links -- links to torrents which share the same unique hash value.  In that regard, thousands, if not millions of users will be privately hosting the scores of torrents that make up The Pirate Bay users worldwide know and love.

Magnet links

And it will be far harder for lawyers and regulators to pin wrongdoing on The Pirate Bay -- assuming that the members of the international judicial committee understand how the technology works and are willing to give a fair trial, at least.  In short, magnet links are the future of filesharing and The Pirate Bay's decision to force their adoption is a sound one in terms of its future.

Magnet links represent the supreme ultimatum to media organizations (many of which themselves engage in active for-profit piracy that steals hundreds of millions of dollars from independent artists annually):

Develop fair, reasonably priced, accessible content distribution and create content that users think is actually worth paying for, or you can and will be pirated.

In essence it will be impossible for the RIAA or MPAA to put millions of Americans in prison or fine them.  So ultimately, magnet links and other new technologies may force the RIAA, MPAA, and government to abandon traditional enforcement of file-sharing.  Thus the groups' long-standing dream of taking down The Pirate Bay's torrents has just become their worst nightmare. 

It should be interesting how the self-proclaimed "anti-piracy" advocates by day, for-profit pirates by night globally react to this new technological marvel.

Sources: The Pirate Bay, Torrent Freak



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RE: FTW
By 0ldman on 2/14/2012 1:59:18 PM , Rating: 4
Back to the Future for the NES.

Crappiest birthday present I ever got and Walmart wouldn't take it back. It was put in my NES a total of 4 times, once when I got it and found out how horrible it was and 3 times to show various people how horrible it was.

Should be a crime to make a game that bad.

That being said, I've probably got over $1500 invested in various racing games and peripherals, nearly every Street Fighter out there, pirated a couple of games and bought them because they deserve to be paid for their work.

Make sure the product is worth the money and the DRM doesn't make it easier to pirate than purchase and people will buy it.

Sad fact, I've had a few movies I've bought on DVD that won't display properly on my TV, several that wouldn't read in a PS3 or my PC. I downloaded a ripped copy of a DVD that I own so I could watch it full screen without buggy menus, tiny video or trailers that I couldn't skip.


RE: FTW
By SeeManRun on 2/14/12, Rating: -1
RE: FTW
By BioHazardous on 2/14/2012 2:31:26 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
There are tons of products that turn out to be bad that you are stuck with. For example, you tried the no name brand of Cheerios and didn't like them, can you expect a refund? Should have you stolen them first and if you liked them then start buying them? What about a lemon car; I can't imagine you would advocate stealing a Ford Focus to try it out before buying it.


Your examples are pretty bunk. Cheerios are not a product that people aren't already familiar with. That being said, they give away samples of cereal all the time to get people to try their product before they buy it.

Also I'm pretty sure you can go down to your local Ford dealer and test drive a Focus before you buy it.


RE: FTW
By Sazabi19 on 2/14/2012 2:58:01 PM , Rating: 4
There are also lemon laws for vehicles to where you WILL be refunded.


RE: FTW
By vapore0n on 2/15/2012 8:00:41 AM , Rating: 2
Very bad analogy. Lemon laws are to protect the public from manufacturer defects and dealers that wont help you out.

You cant call lemon law on a car you bought, drove it for a day, and now dont like.


RE: FTW
By tamalero on 2/15/2012 10:57:16 AM , Rating: 4
Actually, it is a good analogy.
Have you forgot how many games are so buggy as hell its not even funny?
the Batesda ones are fine examples of this.


RE: FTW
By MonkeyPaw on 2/14/2012 3:56:26 PM , Rating: 3
Actually, you can return food to the store, and the general policy is to take it back, no questions asked. I have done so before when what I ate tasted terrible. It's just that our perception of food purchases is such that we don't return it, but rather we just don't buy it again. That's because food is fairly predictable, while "art" and technology are not.


RE: FTW
By JediJeb on 2/14/2012 6:32:33 PM , Rating: 5
Also if Cheerios were priced at $50 per box, I imagine more people would be returning a bad box than throwing them out. On the other hand if video games only cost $3 each then more people would buy them not worrying if they were going to be bad or not.


RE: FTW
By dgingerich on 2/14/2012 6:37:07 PM , Rating: 2
On top of all the other arguments about food and cars and such, there is also the matter of money.

If you buy a car, you're going to test drive it. Anyone who doesn't test drive a car before buying gets what they deserve.

If you buy food you don't like, it's a whole lot cheaper than a video game. So what if you're out $4 on a box a cereal, or $3 on a can of corned beef hash? That's no big deal.

However, not being able to test drive a game before buying, or listen to a CD before buying, is a bad thing all the way around. I have been stuck with games I spent $40-60 on and they were horrible. With the whole anti-piracy thing, we can't take them back. I have at least a dozen CD's that I bought before the whole mp3 thing took off that are absolutely horrible. I'm out $15 each on those. New albums, known artists, one good song I heard, and the rest of the disk sucked. I figure I'm out about $4000 on stuff like this that I tried, hated, and never used again. What's worse is I can never tell when the next one is going to be. The "entertainment" companies thrive on that very business model. That's what's criminal.

At least at a movie theater, I can walk out halfway through a bad movie and ask for my money back. There really isn't a reason to pirate movies. Sure, lots of movies suck. Go to the theater and check them out, and if you don't like it walk out and ask for your money back from the theater. If you wait until it comes out on DVD, talk to friends who have seen it, read critical reviews, but don't pirate the movie. That is just stealing.


RE: FTW
By Solandri on 2/14/2012 2:45:52 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
For example, you tried the no name brand of Cheerios and didn't like them, can you expect a refund? Should have you stolen them first and if you liked them then start buying them?

Consumables like food generally aren't refundable. Movies, music, and games aren't consumables.

quote:
What about a lemon car; I can't imagine you would advocate stealing a Ford Focus to try it out before buying it.

No need to steal one because car dealers let you take a car out for a free test drive before buying it. So the question is, why can't you take music or movies out for a free test drive before buying them?

Back when they were still around, the retail music stores would let you listen to CDs before buying them. And Amazon (and I presume iTunes) lets you hear part of a song before buying it. I think that's the direction the studios need to go on this if they want to reduce piracy. People want to preview these products before buying. Preventing such previews or making them difficult will just drive people towards piracy.

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Risk is part of the purchase; read the back of the box, read reviews, talk to friends, then decide for or against the purchase. Since when is it risk free to be a consumer with a guarantee of satisfaction?

Actually, I don't think anyone buys a movie they've never seen. They've seen the movie, and liked it enough to want to own a copy. People who've just read a few reviews or heard from friends that it's a good movie will typically rent or pirate it.

The reason online movie piracy is rampant is partly because the industry has been slow to support streamed rentals at a reasonable price (e.g. Netflix). In general, people aren't evil.* They realize a lot of work and money went into making a movie, and they're willing to do the right thing and pay for it. But at the same time they want it to be convenient for them. If you make it a contest between convenience for themselves versus doing the right thing for the studios, their convenience is going to win out and they'll just pirate it.

* All of civilized society is based on this premise that people in general aren't evil. If you've ever seen a riot, you've seen that the police force in every civilized country is vastly inadequate for keeping peace and order if people in general were evil. So any legal construct which is based on the assumption that people are evil is flawed IMHO. Let people do whatever they want, and make illegal the few behaviors which are undesirable. Do not assume everyone is evil, and make laws which make it impossible for people to even have the opportunity to engage in undesirable behaviors (e.g. DRM).


RE: FTW
By SeeManRun on 2/14/12, Rating: -1
RE: FTW
By edge929 on 2/14/2012 4:31:37 PM , Rating: 2
Not all music I like is featured on the radio. I live in the largest city in my state and we have only two local radio stations that venture out of the "pop/country/oldies/classic rock" music genre. I don't prefer any of those genres (although I can listen to classic rock from time to time). If I'm sitting at my computer, I'm nearly always playing a game so internet radio stations don't apply to me. At work, we aren't allowed to stream.


RE: FTW
By Camikazi on 2/14/2012 4:39:14 PM , Rating: 2
Not all groups have the money backing to get on the radio these days. It takes HUGE amounts of money to get your song played on the radio now, which is why you only hear the same 20 or so songs on the radio now.


RE: FTW
By JediJeb on 2/14/2012 6:36:43 PM , Rating: 2
How often does the radio station play all the tracks from a CD instead of only one or maybe two? You can't preview an entire CD by listening to only two tracks.


RE: FTW
By nafhan on 2/14/2012 4:20:22 PM , Rating: 2
I think the real problem is that most people don't intuitively understand how to deal with non-consumable goods. Some try to equate it to stealing, which it's not, and this just confuses the issue further.
I've found that the best thing to do is:
A) look at it from a legal perspective. The law's say "this" so base your decisions on the legality of what you're doing.
B) patron of the arts perspective. Do you feel like this "work of art" (i.e. a product of the mind) is good enough that you would like it's creators to continue producing similar works?

Looking at those two questions, I feel that "B" is more important, and that I feel obligated to ensure that the creators of the work get at least some money if the work is worth my time in the first place.


RE: FTW
By thatmikeguy on 2/14/2012 4:37:39 PM , Rating: 2
I do not pirate anything at all these days, because I can simply rent whatever I want for far cheaper than I can buy it, or in less time than finding/downloading/paring/extracting/scanning/conv erting/testing/re-sizing/saving it, all on top of hardware costs. I'll never have enough time to watch/play everything I'd like anyway, and that's without watching or playing something more than once.


RE: FTW
By someguy123 on 2/14/2012 10:28:04 PM , Rating: 2
i don't really think it's fair to say that people pirate because of lack of availability on stream. I'd say the majority of pirates are simply people not interested in buying the product in the first place, then you have another category created by the insanely intrusive DRM and advertising schemes movie studios have been implementing and looking for an easier solution, and to a certain degree people who just don't feel like paying even if they want the actual product.

I personally agree that there should be better methods of preview, but it's hard to do with video games. Games rely heavily on the launch sales, since that's when they get the most attention and subsequent shelf space. Games are also created using a lot of redundant information distributed throughout the disc. To get a demo you'd either need an entirely separate demo build or a slice of the actual game (which would require most, if not all of the game's assets to be installed). It's much easier said than done. You can't really resale a game multiple times like you can with a movie, going from theaters to blu-ray to PPV to licensing etc.


RE: FTW
By kmmatney on 2/15/2012 1:31:59 PM , Rating: 1
WHile I would never take back a bad box of cereal, my wife returns stuff like that all the time to the store. They always take it back - no problem.

At least you can test drive a Ford Focus. I travel a lot so I get to rent potential cars I might buy (Just rented a chevy Traverse and really liked it).


RE: FTW
By priusone on 2/14/2012 2:30:59 PM , Rating: 5
Back when I was a kid, I would take apart our VHS tapes and literally cut out the 10 minutes of commercials from the beginning. I rip the DVD's now, remove the bloat, and burn the vobs onto DVD's, put those in the DVD case, and then put the originals in my room. This way, when I want to watch a DVD that I have purchased, I don't have to sit there and keep pressing the menu button just to get to the title screen. It is the MPAA's fault for making .avi files so much easier to deal with than DVD's.


RE: FTW
By The Raven on 2/14/2012 5:13:30 PM , Rating: 3
Yeah and they keep holding back features so that you have to keep buying 12 different versions of the same damn movie. It makes me want to break into the damn Disney Vault and spread the contents to the masses lol. I think this is one the reasons why people stop buying crap. They have to upgrade their collection every 5 years because of the next big thing. Well unfortunately for the studios, I think the 3D fad isn't cutting it and everyone is happy with DVDs and/or BDs. Their revenue stream will dry up fast (the disc sales portion of it I mean). So I would expect other portions of their sales to experience a price increase (e.g. theatre tickets, online rentals/Netflix, etc.).

If I am right, I think piracy will decrease due to the increased satisfaction people have by buying discs. But piracy will increase when they raise prices in other areas. Whatever... I have Netflix (ironically something the studios want to kill) and have not had the inclination to pirate ever since I first subscribed. I have so much stuff to watch via Netflix that I don't have time to watch anything else (e.g. pirated movies).


RE: FTW
By priusone on 2/14/2012 2:32:28 PM , Rating: 2
Back when I was a kid, I would take apart our VHS tapes and literally cut out the 10 minutes of commercials from the beginning. I rip the DVD's now, remove the bloat, burn the vobs onto DVD's, put enhanced DVDs into the original case, and then put the originals in my room. This way, when I want to watch a DVD that I have purchased, I don't have to sit there and keep pressing the menu button just to get to the title screen. It is the MPAA's fault for making .avi files so much easier to deal with than DVD's.


RE: FTW
By priusone on 2/14/2012 2:38:51 PM , Rating: 2
My apologies for the double post; I received a server error from Dailytech, pressed the back button... pressed the submit button again... received another server error from Dailytech (mind you, I was also talking with someone through my gmail, so I know the problem wasn't on my end. I really need to just block this site so that I'm not tempted to return, only to get pissed because the site likes to error out and the admins are too stupid to fix it. I'm having flashbacks to how MySpace was back in 2005-2006.


RE: FTW
By Gondor on 2/15/2012 11:05:42 AM , Rating: 2
Never owned a NES so I looked it up. It turned out somebody has made a review of this "game" (and its sequel) and posted it on Youtube. You can check it out, the video is interesting to watch if you're unfamiliar with the game as I was :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y306cWw98a4


RE: FTW
By superstition on 2/15/2012 4:28:35 PM , Rating: 2
Nintendo kept far better games from being sold in the US because it felt:

a) Americans are too stupid to play them (the actual sequel to Super Mario Bros., which was released much later in the US on the SNES as "The Lost Levels" as part of Super Mario All Stars)

b) Americans are too stupid to deal with choice (the sequels to Final Fantasy I)

But, don't try to post anything about that on the NES Wikipedia page.


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