quote: (if you look up the meaning of liberalism, and the definition of it anywhere BUT the US)
quote: Most conservatives (which I would put in the Republican camp) are not even really that economically conservative, either. They tend to favor a large, empire-building state
quote: Sounds largely like the majority of the Democrat party.
quote: They want to be left alone in their bedroom
quote: The fuel economy is nice though if it's accurate. Hard to see why anyone would buy a Volt when you can get a Prius at these prices.
quote: Why talk about the Volt? This car doesn't even come close to competing with the Volt.
quote: I think its hard to honestly say someone with the money to buy a Volt will settle for a Prius
quote: 3. TCO is far more important than initial purchase price
quote: First you sound like a car person - c-segment, b-segment, who talks like that about car buying?
quote: Thrid - the Volt is over $40,000 - what world do you live in?
quote: Second, who cares what the price you'll get in 10 years, yes 10 years, after owning the car?
quote: If someone says the Volt is a 47,000+ car.. well that is just dishonest. To get 47,000 you must check every single option, including chrome wheels.
quote: Your saying "who cares what price I pay for using the car, I just want it to appear cheap." Really? You don't care how much it costs to use you car? Btw, I got this great wallet. Its free. But it destroys money. Its free though, so you can't get cheaper than free.
quote: How is it "dishonest"? Anyway this is really immature nitpicking and you know it.
quote: Also industry data compiled over years and years shows that most people who buy new cars, only keep that car around 5 years.
quote: So again, economically, the Volt makes no sense.
quote: Yes good value for your money is somewhat correct, but if I can get a car for even 1/2 the price of the Volt, that's the one for the majority of buyers.
quote: From your posting I can see you don't fit in with the cheap car crowd and probably could afford the Volt. Well go ahead and buy it. No one esle will - that's the point we are trying to get you to see! Most everyone can see that the Volt is NOT a good buy! What is there added on to it that makes it $20,000 better than the Prius? I didn't say better, I said $20,000 better!
quote: True, but that just doesn't matter!
quote: Thanks to a wholesale blitz by people mainly wanting to make a political statement the perceived value of the Volt has been reduced and the perceived cost increased. The end loser? The US taxpayer. Congrats everyone!
quote: If your statement is the Volt is garbage because its too expensive for the majority of US citizens... well I take exception.
quote: I never ONCE called the Volt garbage or said it was low quality or a poor value.
quote: But we know now that gas prices hurt SUV sales, NOT media coverage.
quote: Ah I knew it. That's your angle.
quote: Brevity is the soul of wit, after all :)
quote: Its the only Car made in AMERICA that is able to be run 100% on AMERICAN made fuel sources from AMERICAN raw materials
quote: AMERICAN made fuel sources
quote: If you two can explain why the most hyped vehicle in our countries history since the Ford Model T has totally flopped, besides an attempt to blame the media, I would love to hear it.
quote: I know about segments, nobody uses those when they buy a car. NOBODY.
quote: And I don't think the Volt was hyped more than any car in the past say 75 years
quote: And I don't think the Volt was hyped more than any car in the past say 75 years.
quote: Nor do I think the sales from one year where cars were not even available to purchase really count yet as a flop. (I was not until Nov. 2011 did cars even start arriving in most of the US. Gee, 3 months on the market and its a flop?!?)
quote: For some reason, it has become the poster child for the Auto Bailouts.
quote: People should be furious that UAW's significantly higher than market wages and benefits were maintained on the back of the general US taxpayer
quote: GM since its "Bailout" has made the Sonic, Cruze, etc. Yet these cars do not receive the same type of smear campaign.
quote: Is the Volt a car for everyone? No clearly not.
quote: It's unethical and straight up un-American to constantly troll those of us exercising our First Amendment rights to speak out about the Volt and this situation to keep us quiet.
quote: Because it's the car GM demoed to the taxpayers when the Government asked GM for evidence that they should get bailed out. Did you forget that?
quote: The Volt is on the road purely because of politics, BAD politics
quote: But feel free to drive GM into the ground again by not even attempting to provide vision concepts and cars.
quote: The Government was going to bail out GM regardless and to pretend otherwise is burying you head in the sand.
quote: If I have the money to buy a Volt I don't know why in the hell I would and if I don't have the money to buy a Volt, well, I'm not going to buy a Volt.
quote: And I believe, just like reclaimer, that you are somehow connectd with the Volt. You have to much of the car talk. Like I said before no person going in to buy a car says where are your "c-segment" cars?