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Bob Lutz has had enough of the Volt flaming

Bob Lutz has never been one to back down from a fight. The former Marine has served at a number of car companies over the decades including General Motors, BMW, Ford, and Chrysler. Most recently, Lutz served at GM's Vice Chairman for Special Advisor Design and Global Product Development.
 
When it comes to hardcore "car guys" in the auto industry, there aren't many as rabid as Lutz. In recent years, Lutz is responsible for spearheading the development of enthusiast-oriented vehicles like the fifth-generation Chevrolet Camaro, Pontiac G8, fourth generation Pontiac GTO, Pontiac Solstice/Saturn Sky, and the upcoming Cadillac Converj (now called the ELR).
 
One of Lutz's most famous "babies", however, has been the Chevrolet Volt. He has been an ardent supporter of the plug-in hybrid, so it should come as no surprise that Lutz is coming to the Volt's defense after a barrage of negative press has rained down on it.


[Source: Patrick Arena/VW Vortex]
 
Lutz, writing in a column for Forbes, went straight after those that have been most critical of the Volt. He rattled off six “truths” about the vehicle including the fact that the Volt was conceived before GM's federal bailout and that no Volt has caught fire on public roads during an accident. Lutz also asserted that 278,000 gasoline-engined vehicles caught fire between 2003 and 2007, but no one seemed to launch an attack campaign against those vehicles.
 
But Lutz saved his harshest criticism for the "right-wing media" which has gone after the Volt with many a hollow-point bullet:
 
But the Oscar for totally irresponsible journalism has to go to The O’Reilly Factor on Fox News, with, as its key guest, Lou Dobbs. Amid much jocular yukking, the Volt was depicted as a typical federal failure. In attempting to explain why Chevy has sold fewer than 8,000 Volts, Dobbs states, flatly, “It doesn’t work.” He elaborates, “It doesn’t go fast and go far on electricity. What happens is it catches fire."
 
Lutz then went on to try to clear up any confusion about who enabled the $7,500 tax credit that has been another sore point for people upset over the very existence of the Volt:
 
To top it off, these two media pros lamented the fact that the same government that had forced GM to produce the Volt was now extending $7,500 tax credits towards its purchase, thus squandering even more of “our taxpayer” dollars on this failed Socialist-collectivist flop. Truth? The $7,500 tax credit was enacted under the Bush administration!
 
Lutz’s column comes just days after GM CEO Dan Akerson testified before Congress to defend the Volt's safety record. "The Volt is safe. It's a marvelous machine. It represents so much of what is right at GM and, frankly, American ingenuity and manufacturing," said Akerson in his testimony last week. "The Volt seems, perhaps unfairly, to have become a surrogate for some to offer broader commentary on General Motors' business prospects and administration policy."
 
Late last week, GM introduced a new commercial to put the Volt in a more positive light.

Source: Forbes



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RE: Typical Fox Uninformation
By Reclaimer77 on 2/1/2012 11:58:38 AM , Rating: 2
LOL Retro, you have a gift. This was subtle humor right? Because you just posted something that uses grade school logic to attack "the right" on having a grade school point of view.

Bravo man :D

Seriously now, I would say the fault in the "both sides do it" point of view is that it assumes a morale relativism. If both sides can't be wrong, that means both can never be right. And visa versa.

Conservatism, the "right", what have you isn't just some point of view. In the larger context of politics and the impact on the country, it absolutely is the CORRECT point of view. It's what this country was founded on.

Liberals don't like hearing this because they view America as a critically flawed venture that breeds inequalities, prejudices, and has a Constitution which was written to keep "rich white men" in power. So we need to take as much freedom, personal responsibility, and wealth out of the people's hands and use it equally and favorably distribute it to fix these issues. Now, obviously, we know this cannot be the correct point of view. It's just not.


RE: Typical Fox Uninformation
By retrospooty on 2/1/2012 1:23:41 PM , Rating: 2
"Seriously now, I would say the fault in the "both sides do it" point of view is that it assumes a morale relativism. If both sides can't be wrong, that means both can never be right. And visa versa."

Can you see it ever working out with the current left vs. right, arguing and getting nowhere mentality? Both sides are wrong.

"Conservatism, the "right", what have you isn't just some point of view. In the larger context of politics and the impact on the country, it absolutely is the CORRECT point of view. It's what this country was founded on."

Who are you to say what is "correct" ? There are many opionions, I think we both agree our country is in a bad way right now, well, the reps have had most of the control in recent history, so how "correct can it be?

Also, this country was not founded by conservatives. This country was founded by people getting on boats and sailing the hell away from the conservatives of their day (The king of englands etc.)


RE: Typical Fox Uninformation
By Reclaimer77 on 2/1/2012 2:45:25 PM , Rating: 2
You really needed to bring it, and you didn't. Really weak reply. Republicans might have been in power, but that doesn't mean they were CONSERVATIVE Republicans. And we could debate all day long over which party is responsible for what, regardless of voting "power".

Modern-day Conservatives embrace the ideology of our Founders. I didn't say America was settled by modern day Conservatives. Talk about grade school logic! It seems to be all you have.

Liberals, on the other hand, believe in NONE of our founding principles or the Constitution in general.

quote:
Who are you to say what is "correct" ?


Who are you to say I'm not? I'll err on the side of liberty and personal freedom and smaller government.


RE: Typical Fox Uninformation
By retrospooty on 2/1/2012 3:31:29 PM , Rating: 2
"Republicans might have been in power, but that doesn't mean they were CONSERVATIVE Republicans."

OK, so when your conservative party fails miserably, then the claim is "they weren't REAL conservatives" LOL... OK. thanks for the laugh. Its a cop-out answer and a great way to remove all responsibility for actions. LOL.

"Liberals, on the other hand, believe in NONE of our founding principles or the Constitution in general."

Now you are generalizing and totally incorrect. Just ridiculous. Just because the liberal half of the USA disagrees with you doesn't at all mean they don't believe in the constitution. That is a total load of crap.

"You really needed to bring it, and you didn't. Really weak reply."

Right back at ya. Your arguments are totally baseless, and DONT assume to think you know what "liberals" think about the constitution, because you have no clue.

"Who are you to say I'm not?"

I am no-one to say that... But I didn't make the claimdid I? You came out and said conservatism is the "correct" way to govern. I pointed out that reps have had all the power in the modern ERA and have made a mess. You have no answer for that other than "oh, well, they werent REAL conservatives. If the reps aren't the conservative party who the hell is?

I am not touting the greatness of the dems by any means, but you really have to get over this "blame everything that is wrong in this country on liberals" thing. Its just narrow, one sided, ill-though out and plain wrong.


RE: Typical Fox Uninformation
By Reclaimer77 on 2/1/12, Rating: 0
RE: Typical Fox Uninformation
By retrospooty on 2/1/2012 4:28:49 PM , Rating: 3
"you're on ignore too. Come back when you grow up, start paying taxes, and have more of a clue about realities instead of just idealistic platitudes."

Nice... clearly I disagree with you, so I must be immature and pay no taxes... Just like all "librals". Your so imbalanced and prejudiced that its not even funny.

You have no argument, no comeback and no grounds to stand on, so yes, put me on ignore so you can claim the high road. Really classy. I am the immature one.


RE: Typical Fox Uninformation
By YashBudini on 2/1/2012 4:29:15 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
put me on ignore so you can claim the high road.

Why would he treat you different than anyone else?


RE: Typical Fox Uninformation
By retrospooty on 2/1/2012 4:40:07 PM , Rating: 3
"Why would he treat you different than anyone else?"

I guess thats how it is... Attack the librals at all cost, its ALL their fault, its all their fault!!! . Then, when confronted with irreputiatable logic (/Palin LOL),like the fact that the reps have had nearly all the power in the past 30 years, run like a coward and insult me. He cant admit he is wrong and that the reps screwed this pooch. Clearly you and I must be nutty liberals and pay no taxes.

I live in AZ, am married with 2 kids, one going to ASU now, and own 2 homes, but clearly, I pay no taxes and am immature because I dont blame all our issues on the liberals.


RE: Typical Fox Uninformation
By Reclaimer77 on 2/1/12, Rating: 0
RE: Typical Fox Uninformation
By retrospooty on 2/1/2012 5:08:46 PM , Rating: 3
"and still defend Liberalism."

This is why a true conversation cannot be had with you. I am NOT defending liberalism. I am simply stating you cant blame it ALL on the liberals, when the reps have had all the power. You are so far to one side you cant even comprehend someone that disagrees with you and consider for just a minute that they arent a liberal nutjob. THINK about that statement for a minute. Where did I defend liberalism? All I ever do is point out how one sided and incorrect you are for blaming everything on the libs.


"I really hope you didn't think this discussion was about saying "everything" isn't the Liberals fault. In that case I'll be REALLY pissed for you wasting my time. Because you can't find me saying that here at all. Not once. "


Lets not mince words here reclaimer. Your name is littered all over any and every political article and Anandtech/Dailytech for YEARS blaming everything on the liberals. That's all you do. YOu cant fathom for a minute just maybe your side made most of the bad choices here. Not even a possibility is it. Its as if All Presidential legislation happened under Clinton, and in since Jan 2007 in Congress. Seriously, get some perspective.

If you truly arent going to "ignore" me, at least come up with a decent argument, becasue as of now you are failing.


RE: Typical Fox Uninformation
By Reclaimer77 on 2/1/2012 5:19:54 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
This is why a true conversation cannot be had with you. I am NOT defending liberalism. I am simply stating you cant blame it ALL on the liberals


So you aren't defending Liberals, you're just anti-me. That's MUCH better.

quote:
That's all you do.


That's not fair at all! I bash Apple too! Some of my best work has been in that field :)

Anyway you're just projecting. I never said "everything" bad is because of Liberals. Just that ALL of their ideas are.

quote:
Seriously, get some perspective.


Confidence and being self assured beats perspective any day. Ask your wife. It's damned sexy.


RE: Typical Fox Uninformation
By retrospooty on 2/1/2012 5:29:57 PM , Rating: 2
"So you aren't defending Liberals, you're just anti-me. That's MUCH better."

LOL, no, just anti-blame everything on the minority side. Its all of the govt, not 1/2, and defintely not the smaller 1/2

"That's not fair at all! I bash Apple too! Some of my best work has been in that field :)"

Hey, I am right there with you on that! =)


"Confidence and being self assured beats perspective any day. Ask your wife. It's damned sexy. "


Ah yes, but I have both and the wifey is lovin it! ;)


RE: Typical Fox Uninformation
By YashBudini on 2/1/2012 5:59:11 PM , Rating: 2
"That's not fair at all! I bash Apple too! Some of my best work has been in that field :)"

Anyone else doing the exact same thing would be called a troll.

Got double standards?


RE: Typical Fox Uninformation
By retrospooty on 2/1/2012 7:03:57 PM , Rating: 2
Apple does a lot of crappy things that are very bashable. From the bold face lies and skewed benchmarks of the 90's and early 2000's to todays frivolous lawsuits claiming other companies are copying Apple's copied tech... But that's another thread.


RE: Typical Fox Uninformation
By Black1969ta on 2/1/2012 11:11:04 PM , Rating: 3
Funny story!!
Google Whig party and look at the wiki for that party, replace Whig with modern Republican, newspapers with FOX and names for the person modern equivalent position IE... Obama for Jackson, Gingrich for Clay, and you have the same story we do now!
History repeats itself!

Reclaimer, you forget that the earliest party was the democrat-republican, and they focus on almost opposite what we consider to be the modern Republican Point of View


RE: Typical Fox Uninformation
By YashBudini on 2/1/2012 9:09:45 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
you're on ignore too

Which apparently is accomplished by replying to all my posts addressed to you or not.

That's pretty impressive, few people can raise hypocrisy to an art form. Oh, it was a Faux ignore. Me silly.


RE: Typical Fox Uninformation
By YashBudini on 2/1/2012 4:19:36 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
but you really have to get over this "blame everything that is wrong in this country on liberals" thing. Its just narrow, one sided, ill-though out and plain wrong.


"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis


RE: Typical Fox Uninformation
By YashBudini on 2/1/2012 4:41:11 PM , Rating: 2
All the pundits on Faux do the same thing, if information is forthcoming that is contrary to the goal then it's "LA LA LA LA LA I can't hear you time."

For a lot of people out there, this here is the truth.
Cause if it's on news channel it must be true:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News_Channel_cont...

Gotta love the Photoshopped images, what other stations do that?


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