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EU regulators grow tired of Samsung and Apple bickering in court

Europe has been a focal battleground in the international patent dispute between Samsung Electronics Comp., Ltd. (KS:005930) and Apple, Inc. (AAPL).  Of late, justices in EU member states seem to be growing tired of the discourse and have been throwing the cases out of court.  Samsung has seen this happen several times [1][2][3] and Apple has also been on the receiving end [1][2][3].

Further evidence of European regulators' growing frustration came today when Samsung was slapped with a formal antitrust investigation.  The investigation follows an information-gathering phase, in which EU officials reached out to both Samsung and Apple.

An EU executive commented to Reuters, "The (European) Commission will investigate, in particular, whether in doing so (seeking injunctions on patent infringements in 2011) Samsung has failed to honor its irrevocable commitment given in 1998 to the European Telecommunications Standards."

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Samsung is getting probed. [Image Source: South Park Studios/Comedy Central]

The sticky mess Samsung finds itself in comes courtesy of the "fair, reasonable, and non-discriminatory" (FRAND) rules, which the EU -- like the U.S. -- uses to govern patents on vital technology standards, such as 3G wireless communication technologies.    The FRAND rules mandate that the filer show willingness to license the patent.

The EU investigation will probe into whether Samsung broke the law by refusing to license these patents to Apple and suing it with them.  A key point of debate will perhaps be whether it is "fair" to deny a company that is trying to sue a firm out of business licensing.  Samsung may have a hard time making that case, given the offensive nature it took in the EU campaign, being the first to file in several regions.

The EU is fond of fines; it recently hit Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) and Intel Corp. (INTC) with fines of over a billion dollars [1][2].

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Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer knows the pain of EU antitrust fines.
[Image Source: OReilly Media]

Apple may relish its rival's misfortune, but it has cause for concern as well.  The initial EU probe also targeted it.  Given Apple's serial filings in Europe, and overly broad claims ("Samsung says Galaxy Tab 10.1, we say any tablet device" -- Apple counsel) there may be cause for the EU to pursue a formal intellectual abuse investigation against Apple as well.

The EU tends to practice a stricter brand of antitrust law than the U.S.  However, the U.S. has increasingly followed in the EU's line, which may spell trouble for both Apple and Samsung.

Samsung's smartphone operating system partner Google Inc. (GOOG) was recently the subject of an EU antitrust probe.  Shortly thereafter U.S. regulators opened a similar probe into its dominant positions (although its U.S. Android position has weakened of late in the face of unexpectedly strong iPhone 4S sales).

Apple vs Samsung
Apple and Samsung have been warring for market dominance, both in stores and in court. [Image Source: PhoneBuff]

Like Google and Apple, Samsung and Apple enjoy an awkward relationship as business partners-turned-business rivals.  Samsung continues to manufacture chips that are used in Apple's smartphone, which is by far the best selling smartphone globally, in terms of single-model sales.

Samsung has targeted Apple with a taste of its own medicine of late -- airing commercials mocking Apple "fanboys" (extreme fans).  The two companies were in a dead heat in terms of smartphone sales in Q4 2012, with Samsung moving 36.5m units and Apple moving 37m.

Source: EU [press release]



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long-term prognosis
By jwcalla on 1/31/2012 10:12:02 AM , Rating: 2
Aren't there far more pressing matters for the EU to deal with than this silliness?




RE: long-term prognosis
By JasonMick (blog) on 1/31/2012 10:20:17 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Aren't there far more pressing matters for the EU to deal with than this silliness?

Maybe they can fine Apple and Samsung to pay of Greece's debt!

/sort of joking....


RE: long-term prognosis
By Motoman on 1/31/2012 11:13:42 AM , Rating: 3
I'm pretty sure either of those companies could buy Greece right about now.


RE: long-term prognosis
By JasonMick (blog) on 1/31/2012 11:17:05 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
I'm pretty sure either of those companies could buy Greece right about now.

Could be the latest tax holiday scheme. :)

We've had "Double Irish" and "Dutch Sandwich"... they could call it "Greek Salad".


RE: long-term prognosis
By A11 on 1/31/2012 11:25:47 AM , Rating: 2
I must say I find it a bit ironic when Americans bring up EU fining corporations to finance itself seeing how your own justice department is doing the exact same thing, case in point the LCD cartel.

For the record my view on the EU fines is that the Intel one was perfectly valid but MS shouldn't have been fined or forced to create a browser choice in their OS.


RE: long-term prognosis
By JasonMick (blog) on 1/31/2012 2:07:39 PM , Rating: 2
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I must say I find it a bit ironic when Americans bring up EU fining corporations to finance itself seeing how your own justice department is doing the exact same thing, case in point the LCD cartel.

For the record my view on the EU fines is that the Intel one was perfectly valid but MS shouldn't have been fined or forced to create a browser choice in their OS.

True, I think it's more the magnitude (in informed readers' case, at least).

I.e. The latest fallout of the LCD cartel fines make it look like the total will be around $1.5B... but that's from seven companies.

The Intel and Microsoft fines were ~$1.5B EACH for a single company.

I generally agree that Intel's price fixing tactics made it impossible to compete, and if the situation is as it sounds make it a textbook abusive monopoly.

That said, I think that the size of the EU fines is a bit foreign to the American mind. But to be fair America is following closer in the EU's line today.


RE: long-term prognosis
By michael67 on 1/31/12, Rating: -1
RE: long-term prognosis
By Reclaimer77 on 1/31/2012 3:35:46 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
True, I think it's more the magnitude (in informed readers' case, at least).


Also the situations. How can you sue a company for offering a free browser you don't even have to use? It's absurd and there's just no way to rationalize that. The EU is so backwards that "bundling" something for the consumer is now made to be sinister?

p.s. check your mail man?


RE: long-term prognosis
By FaaR on 1/31/2012 7:37:48 PM , Rating: 2
The point of the large size of EU fines isn't to be NICE to abusive multinational corporations, but rather to hurt them.

...You know, to hammer home the idea that crime does not pay, because they obviously didn't get the point the first time around. A good ol' kick right in the wallet usually corrects that, at least for a while though until these companies figure they can get away with some new mischief and try again.


RE: long-term prognosis
By etikka on 1/31/2012 10:23:43 AM , Rating: 2
Perhaps they're sending a message that they have better things to do than waste time on Apple and Samsung bickering.


RE: long-term prognosis
By michael67 on 1/31/2012 2:29:16 PM , Rating: 2
I know that i have, also read some ware that average legal cost on a iPad/iPhone and Android device is now around 1.7%.

Think that only the lawyers are really happy about all this bickering. >_<


RE: long-term prognosis
By drycrust3 on 1/31/2012 12:18:45 PM , Rating: 2
The entire existence of the EU is at stake, so yes, you are right, they do have better things to argue over than the an American patent squabble.
Knowing that people love power, and especially power over a billion or so people, I'd say the EU won't disappear entirely, but it will have to change from its current format.
After all, if a country doesn't care about having a weak currency, then that is entirely a matter for that country and its people to deal with. The problem with Euro is that countries that don't care if they have a weak currency are detrimental to countries that do care.


RE: long-term prognosis
By name99 on 1/31/2012 2:36:31 PM , Rating: 2
"Aren't there far more pressing matters for the EU to deal with than this silliness?"

Amazing as it may seem, "the EU" is not one person but many many people, all of whom have different jobs. Merkel and Sarkozy are not worrying about antitrust law, just like some anti-trust judge is not worrying about the Greek bailout.

Use some damn common sense, Do you think the courts shut down in the US during WW2 because there were more pressing matters for the US to deal with?


RE: long-term prognosis
By name99 on 1/31/2012 2:36:41 PM , Rating: 2
"Aren't there far more pressing matters for the EU to deal with than this silliness?"

Amazing as it may seem, "the EU" is not one person but many many people, all of whom have different jobs. Merkel and Sarkozy are not worrying about antitrust law, just like some anti-trust judge is not worrying about the Greek bailout.

Use some damn common sense, Do you think the courts shut down in the US during WW2 because there were more pressing matters for the US to deal with?


RE: long-term prognosis
By name99 on 1/31/2012 2:36:51 PM , Rating: 2
"Aren't there far more pressing matters for the EU to deal with than this silliness?"

Amazing as it may seem, "the EU" is not one person but many many people, all of whom have different jobs. Merkel and Sarkozy are not worrying about antitrust law, just like some anti-trust judge is not worrying about the Greek bailout.

Use some damn common sense, Do you think the courts shut down in the US during WW2 because there were more pressing matters for the US to deal with?


RE: long-term prognosis
By FaaR on 1/31/2012 7:32:38 PM , Rating: 2
Yes of course there are more pressing matters for the EU to deal with right now (there are always more pressing matters in EVERY country), but the people that deal with these sort of matters aren't the same people that deal with the more pressing matters so one thing does not preclude the other.

In essence, the EU can both walk AND chew gum at the same time. Impressive, huh?


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