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RIM finally grabs ahold of its future, dumps its past... sorta

The writing has been on the wall for months, but the co-CEO's of Research in Motion (RIM) are getting the boot. Jim Balsillie and Mike Lazaridis have shared power at RIM for over twenty years and oversaw the company's dominance at the start of the smartphone revolution. In their place will be a new, solitary President and CEO: 54-year-old Thorsten Heins.


RIM's new CEO, Thorsten Heins, pictured on the left [Source: Getty Images]
 
Heins joined RIM in 2007 and was previously the Waterloo, Ontario-based company's Chief Operating Officer. Before landing at RIM, Heins' most prominent role was a Chief Technology Officer for the communications division of Siemens.

I. Rearranging the Deck Chairs?
 
For those expecting a big change for RIM now that someone new is in the driver’s seat, you’ll likely be disappointed. According to The Globe and Mail, Heins has been groomed by both Balsillie and Lazaridis over the past few years to slide into the role as CEO; so it’s not like the company is getting an injection of fresh blood.
 
Lazaridis and Balsillie, who both will remain on RIM's board, had kind words for their protégé. “There comes a time in the growth of every successful company when the founders recognize the need to pass the baton to new leadership,” said Lazaridis. “Jim and I went to the Board and told them that we thought that time was now.”
 
“I agree this is the right time to pass the baton to new leadership, and I have complete confidence in Thorsten, the management team and the company,” added Balsillie. “I remain a significant shareholder and a Director and, of course, they will have my full support.”

 
In addition, Heins has no plans to change RIM’s current course when it comes to its product development. “There’s no need for me to shake this company up or turn it upside down,” said Heins. “We are not at a point where we try to define a strategy, that’s done.”
 
Heins went on to tout RIM’s upcoming PlayBook 2.0 software and the delayed Blackberry 10 operating system. “BlackBerry 7 has been well received.  We are very excited about PlayBook 2.0 and BlackBerry 10.  The reception of our products at this year’s Consumer Electronics Show was encouraging.
 
“RIM earned its reputation by focusing relentlessly on the customer and delivering unique mobile communications solutions. We intend to build on this heritage to expand BlackBerry’s leadership position.”

II. From Prized Jewel to Falling Star 

Blackberry smartphones were the prized possessions of businessmen/businesswomen (and consumers) -- the smartphones were even lovingly referred to as Crackberries.

Former RIM Co-CEOs Jim Balsillie and Mike Lazaridis 

However, the company was not agile enough to stay ahead of the game when new competitors entered the fray; especially once Apple's iPhone hit the market in 2007. What once was a small Chihuahua nipping at the heels of RIM in the beginning turned into a snarling pit bull once the full onslaught of Android-based smartphones started flooding the market.
 
When it comes to its current U.S. market share, things look bleak for RIM. According to Nielsen, Android smartphones have 46.3 percent of the market, while Apple's iPhone family has 30 percent market share. RIM has fallen from its commanding lead in the sector just a few short years ago to a meager 14.9 percent.


 
The numbers are even more sobering when you look at a three-month snapshot of smartphone sales. Those number shows that 51.7 recent smartphone acquirers went for Android devices, 37 percent flocked to iPhones, and just 6 percent crawled to RIM's Blackberries.

Sources: The Wall Street Journal, RIM, The Globe and Mail



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RE: It's about time
By idiot77 on 1/22/2012 10:23:56 PM , Rating: 4
Unfortunately for them I think they have the same options that Kodak has.

This came too little too late.


RE: It's about time
By retrospooty on 1/22/2012 10:30:53 PM , Rating: 2
Yep if you live in denial for 5 year straight this is the boat u r in.


RE: It's about time
By Pirks on 1/22/2012 11:26:52 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, big deal, co-CEOs replaced with their intended successor groomed by them both and sharing their views. Nice bone to gnaw on for trolls like you for sure, but fortunately not a change of direction for RIM.

This was done for a few dumb investors who are naive enough to think that changing CEO means radically changing company's course. Yeah keep hoping lamers. Retro trolls of the world salute you hehee


RE: It's about time
By retrospooty on 1/23/2012 7:13:16 AM , Rating: 4
Oh, I love it. I told you this would happen, and you were in denial. Now it happens and of course " "This was done for a few dumb investors "

Ya, all those dumb investors tires of these two yahoo's sitting by making stupid jokes while their stock drops from 150 down to 15 over the last 3 years. Dumb investors watching their retiremetns go down in flames becasue these 2 numbnuts coulnt see the writing on the wall that everyone else saw when the iPhone was released. 5 years after iPhone and still no competing OS. QNX looks good, but its 3 years too late.


RE: It's about time
By JasonMick (blog) on 1/23/2012 7:48:54 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
Yeah, big deal, co-CEOs replaced with their intended successor groomed by them both and sharing their views. Nice bone to gnaw on for trolls like you for sure, but fortunately not a change of direction for RIM.

This was done for a few dumb investors who are naive enough to think that changing CEO means radically changing company's course. Yeah keep hoping lamers. Retro trolls of the world salute you hehee

Man you're really living in denial. Do you really think a company breaks the status quo and replaces its co-CEOs on a whim??

RIM is in very bad trouble. It may be profitable still, but it is in very bad trouble, mark my words Pirks.

http://www.dailytech.com/A+Cupertino+Comeback+Appl...

In December RIM was just 4.5 percent of U.S. sales. 4.5 percent!!!

And you're telling me nothing is wrong?


RE: It's about time
By wordsworm on 1/23/2012 8:40:50 AM , Rating: 2
RIM is no where near in trouble. The fact that they're no longer the leader does not diminish the fact that they're still selling just as many phones today as they did 5 years ago. The market has expanded quickly, but they haven't increased their sales by much. However, their assets have doubled and their earnings per share are slightly better for 2011 than they were in 2008, despite having taken a big hit for their launch of a poorly received tablet.

They have a good product. They're not walking away from their tablet. Personally, I think there's good value in their product at the moment. They have their own network. Their new products can run Android apps. I'm personally considering getting one for my wife who has been whining about getting one for years.

RIM is not in trouble. You're just not really looking at the big picture.


RE: It's about time
By JasonMick (blog) on 1/23/2012 9:43:37 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
RIM is no where near in trouble. The fact that they're no longer the leader does not diminish the fact that they're still selling just as many phones today as they did 5 years ago. The market has expanded quickly, but they haven't increased their sales by much. However, their assets have doubled and their earnings per share are slightly better for 2011 than they were in 2008, despite having taken a big hit for their launch of a poorly received tablet.

They have a good product. They're not walking away from their tablet. Personally, I think there's good value in their product at the moment. They have their own network. Their new products can run Android apps. I'm personally considering getting one for my wife who has been whining about getting one for years.

RIM is not in trouble. You're just not really looking at the big picture.

And I suppose Palm was "not in trouble" when their market share sunk to 4 percent?

And don't toss out the profitability excuse. Yes, RIM is profitable for now. But profitability requires sales. And RIM's sales are dropping like a rock. U.S. sales may have dropped first, but overseas sales will follow.

I would love to see RIM succeed as more competitors = better product, but you and Pirks are simply willfully ignorant of reality.

It's like the warning sirens are sounding, the ship is sinking, but you're still, dancing on the deck.


RE: It's about time
By Pirks on 1/23/2012 4:27:58 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
U.S. sales may have dropped first, but overseas sales will follow
Says who? The great never miscalculating predictor of the future? Say, is Mike Dell your relative by any chance? That guy also predicted demise of a certaing Californian company a while ago. I'd suggest you to saty away form him (first), and try to be more objective toward RIM (second). You troll RIM constantly, and you ignore ANY positive news about them on purpose. There's no other plausible explanation on why you would ignore all the great stuff RIM shown at CES. Stop being Android whore, 'cause if you are not, you certainly look like one. Your assurance that international sales or RIM devices must follow the fate of the US sales is laughable. You can't predict the future, you can only troll about it, unfortunately.

Once you stop ignoring positive news about RIM I'll stop accusing you of being an Android whore.


RE: It's about time
By Pirks on 1/23/2012 4:38:08 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
the warning sirens are sounding, the ship is sinking, but you're still, dancing on the deck
I'm watching from the sides how the ship's crew is fixing the hole in the hull and trying to pump the water out to save the ship while you run around yelling "ABANDON THE SHIP!!! US SALES IS THE ONLY INDICATOR!!! INTERNATIONAL MARKETS DON'T MATTER!!! BLAH BLAH BLAH!!!"

You think your unobjective ignorance of any good RIM news looks smart? Think again Jason.


RE: It's about time
By wordsworm on 1/23/2012 7:31:28 PM , Rating: 2
Their sales haven't dropped. Why don't you do a little research before making false claims? There used to be few smart phone sales and many regular phone sales. Those few smart phone sales RIM dominated. Now there are many smart phone sales, and they don't dominate. But they're still selling just as many phones today as they did five years ago.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/316039-is-research...

You are just looking at the pie figure and coming to a baseless conclusion. A quarter billion dollar profit is nothing to sneeze at.


RE: It's about time
By Pirks on 1/23/2012 8:20:34 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
You are just looking at the pie figure and coming to a baseless conclusion
Exactly! I noticed this too, a long time ago but since Mick is on Google payroll or something... you know this kind of "objective" news reporting is typical for him. Do not expect an objective slice of news about RIM from this Android loving fanboy. He would post EVERY negative piece of news about RIM he could find on the net, and always ignore ANY positive news about them. Such as, for example, news of what RIM has shown at the CES a week ago. I guess such devotion to the cause must be nicely rewarded, by some extra $$$ he gets for doing this.


RE: It's about time
By retrospooty on 1/23/2012 10:27:52 AM , Rating: 2
"RIM is not in trouble. You're just not really looking at the big picture. "

I think you are missing the big picture. You look at total sales dropping in an industry that is growing rapidly and its a problem. Once you become obsolete, you are not getting it back. As any company does, RIM shows data that makes them look the best. Year over year the sales are OK, but you have to look at the chart above and see that Q4 sales are tanked... And this is AFTER the release of OS7 devices that RIM (and Pirks LOL) said would save their sales this year. It sold puny amounts. People just dont want it.

Also, there is talk all over the place of RIM just selling the whole thing off while it still has some value. Getting rid of these 2 yahoo's as CEO is the first step of that. They are living in denial and were an obstacle. Now that obstacle is clear. The end result is NOT to get RIM back to the top. Its too late for that. The end result is to sell the company and its IP before it loses too much more value. QNX could have had a chance 2-3 years ago, but its too late and its not even out yet on a phone and wont be until Q4 2012 IF they can release on schedule. At that point we will be close to IOS6 and Android 5. It would have to be a home run OS to succeed by then, and it just wont be. It will be lesser than the competition and years too late.

RIM's last stronghold is of course, corporate accounts. but now, even the IT firms that want the added security are being heavily pressured by end users to get rid of thier Blackberries, and they are caving... RIM is done, its just a matter of time.

I bet any amount of money that they dont survive the year as an independent company. They are already shopping buyers.


RE: It's about time
By x10Unit1 on 1/23/2012 10:47:13 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Once you become obsolete, you are not getting it back.


While I understand what you are getting at, can't agree with it. If I remember correctly, Motorola's mobile division was doing pretty bad in the dumb phone age and then came along the Razor. Also, the original Motorola Droid was amazing as well.

While it sucks to lose that market share, RIM had plenty of opportunities to continue to innovate and stay the leader. They failed to do that and paid the price.

I have had BBs before and I did enjoy them but I do enjoy android/iphones way more.


RE: It's about time
By retrospooty on 1/23/2012 11:07:28 AM , Rating: 2
"If I remember correctly, Motorola's mobile division was doing pretty bad in the dumb phone age and then came along the Razor."

Agreed, but hardware and software are different babies. It was meant as a comment on the current RIM situation. Android and IOS are so entrenched, that it will be next to impossible for RIM to come out with QNX 1 year from now and make much progress with it. Even if it is equal to the IOS and Android versions when it is released.


RE: It's about time
By Pirks on 1/23/2012 4:42:36 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Android and IOS are so entrenched, that it will be next to impossible for RIM to come out with QNX 1 year from now and make much progress with it
RIM has more time than just 1 year to make a significant progress with QNX, so your argument doesn't look valid at all.


RE: It's about time
By retrospooty on 1/23/2012 7:15:25 PM , Rating: 3
RIM wont be RIM in a year. It will be patents in another companies umbrella... But you go with that.


RE: It's about time
By Warwulf on 1/28/2012 9:55:44 AM , Rating: 2
That's the same line the co-CEOs were toting as their stocks continued sliding.

The evidence is clear by any metric you want to use. Stock price. Market Share. Gross earnings. They're following in the exact footsteps of Palm. Before you know it, RIM too will be a failed division of HP. I personally knew RIM was sunk when their new "flagship" Blackberry Torch shipped with the same 624 MHz processor as my two year old Blackberry Bold 9000.

They need a radical overhaul. The need cutting edge phones that they can come to market with TODAY, instead of waiting for some future chipset development. They need a shorter product rollout cycle and more differentiation in their product line. They also need more developer support... either by running emulation and virtualization to allow native Android apps to run or by dumping their OS altogether and shipping a custom fork of Android ICS.


RE: It's about time
By jtesoro on 1/23/2012 7:56:51 AM , Rating: 2
Yes, because of who the new CEO is, there's little chance of a change in direction for RIM. By the way, this direction happens to be "down".


RE: It's about time
By Mitch101 on 1/23/2012 10:32:14 AM , Rating: 2
In a lot of cases its a publicity stunt to appease shareholders. The losing CEO gets a vacation from coming into the office and walks out the door with a golden umbrella or payout.

The replacement staff in most cases drives in the same poor direction for a long time because its difficult to turn the ship. In order to turn the ship they have to spend a lot of money because change isn't cheap so the company loses more of what its not making that's why they are changing directions. Its not they can do it on a dime they need a new design and new software two things that don't happen instantly. Rim might as well keep steering in the direction they are heading with their updated OS and see if it sticks. If it doesn't it will take the new CEO 1.5 years at least of development to have changed direction.

If this is based solely on the Blackberry Tablet not doing well you can point to a number of other tablets that failed to deliver as well. What they should do instead of abandoning it is learn from the one that managed to make a dent in Apple and see if its financially viable to compete with the only segment able to compete with Apple.


RE: It's about time
By retrospooty on 1/23/2012 1:05:07 PM , Rating: 2
"Yeah, big deal, co-CEOs replaced with their intended successor groomed by them both and sharing their views. Nice bone to gnaw on for trolls like you for sure, but fortunately not a change of direction for RIM."

Well, I gotta say, you look right on that one. The guy seems to be more of the same. Too bad, because "the same" is kind a little bit of a major problem LOL. RIP RIM. You wont last the year as an independent company. The only question is who will buy it. Samsung, HTC, Maybe even Google or MS, but RIM is done for. If QNX phones released today and were decent, they would still struggle. QNX phones in 1 year? LOL. And RIM's track record is so great lately, what are the odd that it will work decent at launch?

http://www.thestreet.com/story/11382145/1/rim-inve...

The really funny thing to me is, that you Pirks, insisted that OS7 would drive sales and it would increase. Now, not only are global sales dropping, but at an increasing rate. the Q4 sales (after OS7 released) are the worst, not the best. Its just sad to watch, and you still insist its all good. I guess these board of directors are just liars and trolls, just like all the rest of planet Earth that says RIM is dying a slow painful, comical death.


RE: It's about time
By Pirks on 1/23/2012 5:13:29 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
The really funny thing to me is, that you Pirks, insisted that OS7 would drive sales and it would increase
It increased indeed, see below from their latest quarter report:

1. Revenue of $5.2 billion, up 24% from last quarter
2. BlackBerry smartphone shipments of 14.1 million, up 33% from Q2
3. Subscribers up 35% year-over-year to almost 75 million

Well, so revenue is up, BB sales are up and subscriber numbers are up too. How about you munch on this unpleasant info for a while, stubborn troll? :)))


RE: It's about time
By retrospooty on 1/23/2012 7:16:57 PM , Rating: 2
Hmm... Lets see, every financial site all over the web says its down, RIM says its down, and planned to go down further... Please show me this magic link that gives you such info on the latest quarter.


RE: It's about time
By Pirks on 1/23/2012 8:13:19 PM , Rating: 2
RE: It's about time
By retrospooty on 1/23/2012 8:57:21 PM , Rating: 2
Bah, those are the same rosey colored "cooked numbers" we have already seen. They also announced that the current quarters sales are expected to be down, and next quarter projected even lower. You dont seem to know the definition of the word spin. If you only show the positive, it comes out different. See - "Hitler invaded Poland and France and controls most of Europe". If you leave it there, it sounds like he won.

here is a better picture. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/16/business/rims-qu...

- RIM signaled that the current quarter would bring further financial disappointment.

- Research in Motion’s third quarter net income fell 71 percent

- The company said Thursday that its net income was $265 million, or 51 cents a share, plunging from $911 million, or $1.74 a share, in the same time period last year.

- RIM signaled that the current quarter would bring further financial disappointment. Growing inventories of unsold BlackBerrys at wholesalers and retailers led the company to forecast that it would ship only 11 million to 12 million phones in the current period.

Mark my words, the same thing I have been telling you all along. By later this year, there will be no way to keep cooking the books nad mking it all appear like its OK. Its going to be bad. Not just lower, drmatically lower and RIM will be sold.

YOu can deny all you want though. I know, RIM is poised to excel, and the world is all just trolls and liars.

Good luck with that.


RE: It's about time
By Pirks on 1/23/2012 9:36:13 PM , Rating: 2
Hey I've never said BB7 will save them from all the trouble for good, it was necessary to get BB7 out the door, and now the sales from BB7 are keeping them afloat for a while. I always knew BB7 was a temporary boost and so far it kept 'em afloat but it won't forever. QNX is the major boost, if the sales of QNX handsets will fail so will RIM, but I don't see the reason why it should fail, given my excellent experience with PlayBook. Maybe the market in general will disagree with me, we'll see about that, but even then trusting your constant trolling is a naive thing too. Both you and Mick have no idea about what RIM has shown at CES, so why would anyone trust two trolls like you who don't even know their basics?


RE: It's about time
By retrospooty on 1/24/2012 6:57:39 AM , Rating: 2
"Hey I've never said BB7 will save them from all the trouble for good"

When we started debating this back in like August, I was telling you its the beginning of the end for RIM and I am quite you insisted that OS7 would show us a huge sales bump. That certainly wasn't what happened. Now that QNX has been delayed until at least Q4, we will see how disastrously wrong it was. Wait for the next 3 quarters. Its gonna be brutal.

In August, you railed against everything I said... Now everything I said would happen is happening and you are still railing against it. RIM marketshare dropping globally, overall global sales declining, revenue down, profits down, marketshare and more importantly mindset are nearly gone. By the end of 2012 it will be too late for RIM. Its too large of a company to do business as a medium/small company. They will have to sell it.

You can think what you want, I will stay here in reality. Hell, at this point, I am sure that you know you are wrong, you just wont admit it. You'd have to be daft to not see it, and I dont think you are that daft.


RE: It's about time
By Pirks on 1/24/2012 1:46:16 PM , Rating: 2
I don't remember saying that BB7 would be really huge bump in sales, I always said that it was a temporary sales boost to allow them to survive until QNX arrives. Until QNX handsets arrive you are free to troll and spell the doom and gloom.
quote:
marketshare and more importantly mindset are nearly gone
Is this why EA and other big game publishers keep posting new games for Playbook? Plants vs Zombies, Dead Space, Cut The Rope etc etc... LOL, your "reality" looks pretty funny to me :)))


RE: It's about time
By retrospooty on 1/24/2012 2:16:06 PM , Rating: 2
Wow... games. Thats.... impressive. LOL. They have games on WebOS too. That proves it, you must be right.

So I guess you are going to insist that the ship isn't sinking, right up until its fully underwater. When they sell off the company, what will you say? Spooty was right? No, you'll probably just call the board of directors trolls and liars, just like Mick and me huh? The Iraqi minister of communications position may open up someday, it is a good fit, you should go for it.


RE: It's about time
By Pirks on 1/24/2012 2:51:16 PM , Rating: 2
WebOS never had Dead Space, Cut The Rope or Plants vs Zombies. Not that these facts will stop your trolling. Just mentioning.


RE: It's about time
By retrospooty on 1/24/2012 3:09:31 PM , Rating: 2
"WebOS never had Dead Space, Cut The Rope or Plants vs Zombies"

Games Pirks, it had alot of games. That wont save RIM.

"I don't remember saying that BB7 would be really huge bump in sales, I always said that it was a temporary sales boost to allow them to survive until QNX arrives."

Actually, I found what you said and its even funnier.

"The old RIM phones used to be weak in multimedia and used to have slow clunky UI, so back then there were some real/practical reasons for people to move to more multimedia friendly fancy/smooth UI toting platforms like iPhone.

Now with BB OS 7 these flaws are no more. There's HD video recording and all the multimedia/video/photo/etc bells and whistles one can wish (Playbook can shoot real high quality 1080p videos, watch this one about how movie directors/cinematographers use this Playbook's unique capability: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypRQhYuHI80 ), full social integration with Twitter/BBM/Facebook etc, app store with 3 million downloads every day, fancy great looking and smooth UI, real fast 1.2GHz CPUs, full OpenGL ES 2.0 support, hew 4G radios, big time 3D games like Dead Space on Playbook, unique super high quality hardware keyboards on some models("typing on Bold 99xx is like typing on clouds in heaven" - they say in reviews), unique very convenient optical trackpad (can't live without it, it's the best thing since the invention of multitouch screen and Apple does NOT have this , bebebe :P), microSD slot and removable battery (both are not present in iPhone either, bebebe :P) etc etc... So, as youc an see now, there's no pull to other platforms anymore, since other platforms do not offer any significant advantages over RIM's platform "


ROFLMAO! ... The underlined portion, extra ROFLMAO!, The bold part - The ultimate ROFLMAO@your delusions. Its like watching a dog chase its tail. Funny, because its so dumb.

Ya, its great to know now that BBOS7 is out there is no pull toward IOS and Android devices... LOL. too funny.

thanks man, you really gave me a good laugh.


RE: It's about time
By Pirks on 1/24/2012 3:21:09 PM , Rating: 2
If there were significant pull towards other platforms then BB7 wouldn't sell at all, but instead it still allows RIM to stay afloat which is success given their situation. The convenient track pad is still there and other users don't have it, you have to buy BB to get one. This one is still true, and no trolling can change that :) Playbook still keeps on top of quality tablets, only behind iPad in terms of amount of fart apps and some high-end 3D games. Which is a big deal for some Apple users, agreed on that.


RE: It's about time
By retrospooty on 1/24/2012 3:38:05 PM , Rating: 2
"If there were significant pull towards other platforms then BB7 wouldn't sell at all"

There is a significant pull and its not selling much.

" The convenient track pad is still there and other users don't have it, you have to buy BB to get one. This one is still true, and no trolling can change that "

Ya, you are correct. RIM has the market cornered on the trackpad. LOL. Nice feature in 2002. Unfortunately we all want to use touchscreens in the year 2012.

"Playbook still keeps on top of quality tablets"

Ya, when they took that $485 million hit for dumping the price becasue no-one wants it and they WAY overbuilt, i am sure that is exactly what Lazardis and Balsilie thought. " Its a top quality tablet" LOL.

Keep 'em coming LOL>


RE: It's about time
By Pirks on 1/24/2012 5:24:33 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
its not selling much
14 millions per quarter is not much? Are you drunk?
quote:
we all want to use touchscreens in the year 2012
You don't realize that trackpad on BB is IN ADDITION to touch screen so no one prevents you to use old style touch only interaction. That is if you don't want to use extra convenience and comfort of a trackpad. For ignorant Android and Apple users touch screen is all they know, why would they bother to learn more convenient forms of interaction with their phones? Learning is hard, bashing is easy.
quote:
when they took that $485 million hit for dumping the price becasue no-one wants it
Yeah tell that to Steve Jobs who dumped the price of iPhone form $600 to $200 because "no-one wants it".

Keep your dumb LOLs coming indeed, this is fun!


RE: It's about time
By retrospooty on 1/24/2012 5:33:30 PM , Rating: 2
"14 millions per quarter is not much? Are you drunk? "

That was last quarter, they are projecting lower this quarter, and without a decent OS replacemnt, it will be even lower next quarter. Keep hoping though.


"you don't realize that trackpad on BB is IN ADDITION"


Uh, yes, I know. I see and support Blackberries at work. Most of them come in and users request modern phones like Android and iPhone. The trackpoint is still NOT a feature. Its like selling an iPad with a mouse and calling it unique. LOL. Its old and shows Blackberries age and irrelevance.

"Yeah tell that to Steve Jobs who dumped the price of iPhone form $600 to $200 because "no-one wants it"."

Apple made money on the iPhone... Tons of it. RIM lost $485 mil in ine quarter. Not quite the same thing.

You are hilarious. Only Pirks could spin a $465 million dollar loss on a failed product as good. Truly amazing.


RE: It's about time
By Pirks on 1/24/2012 7:35:11 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
without a decent OS replacemnt, it will be even lower next quarter
Who told you there will be no decent OS repalcement? The sales may go up after QNX phone is released, the fact that older OS doesn't sell well anymore is not a reason to bury RIM yet.
quote:
Its old and shows Blackberries age and irrelevance
I heard same phrases about single button MacBook trackpad, they also said single button is old and irrelevant etc etc. Funny trolls eh :)
quote:
spin a $465 million dollar loss on a failed product as good
I don't see the reason why other companies can sell products below the manufacturing price in order to grab market share quick, and RIM can't. This is normal practice to grab market share. MS and Sony did this with their consoles, RIM also uses the same trick. It's just your double standards at work here.


RE: It's about time
By retrospooty on 1/24/2012 9:08:10 PM , Rating: 2
everything you just said sounds like the iraqi communications minister. We have beaten the infidel americans back to the border. I'm done with your denial for now. Will see you next month at the next quarterly report when rim announces the sales are even lower than expected. Unless of course some additional piece of bad news comes up first for you to deny


RE: It's about time
By Pirks on 1/24/2012 9:33:43 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, see ya at the next biased post of Mick where he ignores positive RIM news and emphasizes the negative news again.


RE: It's about time
By LordSojar on 1/22/2012 11:26:19 PM , Rating: 2
Guess Pirks is getting his wish when he complained about not enough articles about RIM and Blackberry. There have been quite a few lately, eh buddy?

RIM: The cutting edge of the smartphone world*

*: Sharpened with stupid.


RE: It's about time
By Pirks on 1/22/2012 11:33:05 PM , Rating: 2
Guess LordSojar will never change from dumb to smarter, 'cause I never complained about the lack of RIM stories per se on this site. When you stop being dumb - drop by, have a chat eh


RE: It's about time
By Cheesew1z69 on 1/23/2012 10:13:01 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
When you stop being dumb
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Oh, the irony.


RE: It's about time
By LordSojar on 1/23/2012 1:14:58 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
cause I never complained about the lack of RIM stories per se on this site.


Just as one example, I didn't bother to dig for the others:

quote:
he ignores any good stuff people post about upcoming PlayBook OS 2.0 release, he ignores all the new BB7 devices but full screen Torch one, pretending two other major new models like Bold 99xx do not exist etc etc. What do you think about this suspicious bias from Mick?


Yep, that was you back in September of 2011. There was another example of this, where you mentioned how no one covered how Dead Space or some random game on BB didn't get noticed, blah blah ad nauseum.

Your faith in RIM disturbs me and is misplaced. RIM's finished, but you apparently have reading comprehension issues; the writing has been on the wall for many months.


RE: It's about time
By Pirks on 1/23/2012 4:21:48 PM , Rating: 2
So you still didn't notice that I demanded OBJECTIVE view of RIM, which means covering BOTH positive AND negative news? Not just MORE NEGATIVE news like Jason Troll posts here all the time? Well, you must be really dumb then. I thought my point was crystal clear.


RE: It's about time
By LordSojar on 1/23/2012 7:52:02 PM , Rating: 2
Clear as mud.


RE: It's about time
By Cheesew1z69 on 1/24/2012 8:48:58 PM , Rating: 2
I don't know why anyone bothers responding to him anymore, he is clearly mentally challenged.


RE: It's about time
By Pirks on 1/24/2012 8:55:36 PM , Rating: 2
Gee cheesy clown just can't stop farting here. Please cheesy don't forget to deodorize the air after yourself, thank you!


RE: It's about time
By Cheesew1z69 on 1/29/2012 10:15:50 AM , Rating: 2
What this has to do with your mental capacity, I don't....never mind, it actually shows your true mental capacity which is pretty low.


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