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Version plugged by Democratic-controlled Senate is still alive and kicking, though

The House Oversight Chairman, Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) has long been a stern critic of the Orwellian "Stop Online Piracy Act" (SOPA) (H.R. 3261).  The representative announced some huge news on Monday.  He reveals that Majority Leader Rep. Eric Cantor (R-Va.) promised to shelve any potential vote in the Republican-controlled House in terms of passing SOPA.

The bill was likened to a death penalty to the internet economy by DailyTech and other sites -- the bills looked to create a takedown system where any site found to be hosting user generated content pointing to infringing content (say a URL to a torrent) could be immediately taken down.  

This would have been a crippling blow to Amazon.com, Inc. (AMZN), Google Inc. (GOOG), online news, and any other site that allows user-generated content, as a malicious user (e.g. a prankster or competitor) could intentionally plant an offending URL and then contact the regulators to take down the site for weeks at a time.  The measure would essentially have ended all American online commerce, online searching, and online news ,if enforced.

The "death" of SOPA comes just hours after President Barack Obama made headlines when his close advisors came out against SOPA.  Some heralded the opposition as a hint that the President might veto the bill to prevent catastrophic economic damage.

The stalling of SOPA is only a partial victory, as the similar "PROTECT IP Act" (PIPA) (S.968) is moving towards a vote in the Senate.  

Big media paid approximately 10 percent of active U.S. Senators' total combined election costs in the last election cycle.  Many of these same big media companies who are looking to imprison file sharing Americans recently plead guilty to stealing tens of millions of dollars in work in Canada alone, from independent artists.

Rep. Issa who has also recently made a name for himself -- in part -- by opposing President Obama's strict fuel economy mandates, says he will continue to work with advocacies and with America's tech luminaries like Google to fight PIPA in the Senate.

He remarks, "Right now, the focus of protecting the Internet needs to be on the Senate where Majority Leader Reid has announced his intention to try to move similar legislation in less than two weeks."

Source: The Hill



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So Republican Bashers..
By Reclaimer77 on 1/16/2012 11:24:09 AM , Rating: -1
How are you going to spin this one? SOPA died in the House before it could start, but the good old Senate is still fighting for it of course.




RE: So Republican Bashers..
By tastyratz on 1/16/2012 11:56:18 AM , Rating: 5
Does it really matter? republicans have sopa democrats have pipa... in the end they are the SAME... corrupt politicians working on behalf of big business.

In reality the bill was not shut down, the hearing was shelved until the bill was re-written. Declaring it dead is a bit premature if you ask me as they can always pork barrel it a little, line a few more pockets, and cross a few T's/dot a few i's before pushing it again. Delayed and delayed indefinitely are very different things. Let's not order the pizza party quite yet...


RE: So Republican Bashers..
RE: So Republican Bashers..
By superstition on 1/16/2012 7:12:21 PM , Rating: 2
Let's also not forget who really pays for the politicians.

The finance "industry". Good luck caring about American business as long as they run things.


RE: So Republican Bashers..
By The Raven on 1/16/2012 12:16:29 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
http://projects.propublica.org/sopa/

So third party bashers...
How are you going to spin this one?


RE: So Republican Bashers..
By Reclaimer77 on 1/16/12, Rating: -1
RE: So Republican Bashers..
By Iaiken on 1/16/2012 5:06:42 PM , Rating: 2
I'm afraid Reclaimer is right on this count.

The overwhelming support for the bill correlates directly to the overwhelming amount of campaign funding provided to the bills supporters. You could put another group of people in there if you like, but you will wind up with the same result because the people who paid to help win the vote expect a return on that investment. So it is safe to expect this sort of behaviour from everyone for as long as political Political Action Committees and Special Interest Lobby groups are allowed to essentially overrule the voters.


RE: So Republican Bashers..
By The Raven on 1/16/2012 6:46:01 PM , Rating: 2
You guys don't get what I am saying here. It is not about the morals of particular people. It is about the fact that both the reps and the dems want larger gov't...just of different flavors. The libertarian, constitution or other parties have a completely different approach to what the gov't should be doing.

And you guys act like the PACs cast votes. They can only try to sway us. So far they have been successful because of people who continue to vote believing that there truly is a two party system here in the US (as opposed to the de facto one we have) when in fact we can elect anyone we want.

If we have a defeatist attitude that there are a few people here controlling everything, then there will always be that de facto system. I guess you could say, there is nothing to fear...but ourselves.

The OWS and tea party movements have given me hope that people are sick of the choices we have in our elections and that things will change. Also the rise of Dr. Paul.
Not everyone is united, but their thought processes are coming from a different mold.

Anyway, back to your comment.
http://projects.propublica.org/sopa/sopa#roll_call
Sort by donations and you will see that there is not a strong correlation one way or the other. Also party lines are well blurred. Surprisingly Pelosi is against this despite rather large contributions from MPAA & co. But then again, a stopped clock is right twice a day!


RE: So Republican Bashers..
By Regected on 1/16/12, Rating: 0
RE: So Republican Bashers..
By Reclaimer77 on 1/16/2012 6:17:11 PM , Rating: 2
Ron Paul the Republican? :)


RE: So Republican Bashers..
By The Raven on 1/16/2012 6:52:24 PM , Rating: 2
Well he would be better than anything else that is coming out of the tps. Except maybe Gary Johnson...who is now running as a libertarian as Paula did back in the day.

As I have said before, I am voting Ron Paul as a rep or I am voting Libertarian as usual. And I know a lot of people who feel that same way.

All the statists can kiss my shiny metal a$$.


RE: So Republican Bashers..
By Reclaimer77 on 1/16/2012 7:29:48 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
As I have said before, I am voting Ron Paul as a rep or I am voting Libertarian as usual. And I know a lot of people who feel that same way.


So you and lots of people want to give Obama a second term? Wonderful! Thanks.


RE: So Republican Bashers..
By BansheeX on 1/16/2012 8:39:33 PM , Rating: 3
The other repub candidates are Bush-like and just as much corporate puppets as Obama. The only candidate that will veto every spending bill tooth and nail is Paul. Though, to be honest, even that's farting in a hurricane at this point. Most people who suck at math don't really understand how deep we've dug ourselves. If interest rates rise to even 5%, interest payments alone eat up almost all of our tax revenue. Fed Reserve is in a huge box, not sure if we can expect the Chinese to keep trading exports for permanently vaulted paper.


RE: So Republican Bashers..
By FastEddieLB on 1/16/2012 11:43:58 PM , Rating: 2
Oh please, a corporate puppet would be better than Obama. Ron Paul would be great for America... but if he becomes president it'll result in a massive power vacuum globally. Take that how you will.


RE: So Republican Bashers..
By The Raven on 1/17/2012 4:02:20 PM , Rating: 2
You really see a difference between Romney, Gingrich and Obama?

Please tell me what is different about them.

Also keep in mind that Bush II ran and won on a non-interventionist, small gov't platform and won.
Did we get non-interventionism and small gov't? Hell no.
It was the same switchroo with with Reagan, etc.

So when I point out that Bush was on par with Obama don't dismiss him as not being a true conservative because that is what he ran on - being a conservative.

Tell me honestly why you think those statist shills will be any different?

If a conventional republican wins it is just another name for our school kids to memorize.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedd...

Romney et al = 4 more years of Obama
Ron Paul does not. So in fact it is vote 3rd party, or vote for 4 more years of Obama.


RE: So Republican Bashers..
By Reclaimer77 on 1/17/2012 4:40:51 PM , Rating: 1
Blindly saying everyone is the same as Obama but Paul is a terribly immature and petty point your trying to stand on. If you want to seriously discuss these things, you can't be that extreme. It's hard to take you serious.

It doesn't even sound like you know wtf you're talking about. Ron Paul is NOT third party anymore. He's Republican. Maybe not in spirit, but on paper.

I'll vote for whoever wins the nomination, straight up. You can't KNOW for a fact they will be just like Obama, but I know for a FACT that Obama will be Obama.

Sorry but burst your bubble, but Ron Paul won't win. Again. So this whole thing is academic.


RE: So Republican Bashers..
By The Raven on 1/18/2012 1:17:19 PM , Rating: 2
Blindly? I don't know where you get that. I specifically pointed out how the two parties have consistently put out big gov't candidates (despite saying they want to shrink gov't) for decades and you say that I am saying things blindly?
Now blindly saying that a republican is better than a democrat...?
quote:
It doesn't even sound like you know wtf you're talking about. Ron Paul is NOT third party anymore. He's Republican. Maybe not in spirit, but on paper.
You are way off base here. The other candidates are attacking Romney for being a capitalist and Romney is pushing Obamacare v2.0?! And you say that Paul is not a republican in spirit? He is the closest thing to a republican up there. The rest are a bunch of pro-life democrats as far as I see it.

And you really care what letter is attached to his name? They could be an R, D or L and I would vote for someone like Paul. You on the other hand, sound like you would only ever vote for an R. My point is that I will not vote for am R when they are practically a D; both for increasing the scope of the federal gov't.

It seems you think that even if the R would be slightly better than Obama you would vote for them. Well I don't and I don't care if someone who is slightly worse is still in office for 4 more years. What I do care about is our would-be free country going down the tubes in the name of safety. I'm voting minimum gov't, maximum freedom no matter what party they belong to.


RE: So Republican Bashers..
By The Raven on 1/18/2012 1:18:02 PM , Rating: 2
Blindly? I don't know where you get that. I specifically pointed out how the two parties have consistently put out big gov't candidates (despite saying they want to shrink gov't) for decades and you say that I am saying things blindly?
Now blindly saying that a republican is better than a democrat...?
quote:
It doesn't even sound like you know wtf you're talking about. Ron Paul is NOT third party anymore. He's Republican. Maybe not in spirit, but on paper.
You are way off base here. The other candidates are attacking Romney for being a capitalist and Romney is pushing Obamacare v2.0?! And you say that Paul is not a republican in spirit? He is the closest thing to a republican up there. The rest are a bunch of pro-life democrats as far as I see it.

And you really care what letter is attached to his name? They could be an R, D or L and I would vote for someone like Paul. You on the other hand, sound like you would only ever vote for an R. My point is that I will not vote for am R when they are practically a D; both for increasing the scope of the federal gov't.

It seems you think that even if the R would be slightly better than Obama you would vote for them. Well I don't and I don't care if someone who is slightly worse is still in office for 4 more years. What I do care about is our would-be free country going down the tubes in the name of safety. I'm voting minimum gov't, maximum freedom no matter what party they belong to.


RE: So Republican Bashers..
By Etsp on 1/16/2012 12:18:39 PM , Rating: 2
Probably something like: A stopped watch is right twice a day, etc.

But in all seriousness, I've got the funny feeling that they knew PIPA was going to be controversial so they threw in a red herring called SOPA so that PIPA would look like a reasonable compromise.

If you look at the sponsors in the House and the Senate for both of these bills, you would see that they both have bipartisan support.


RE: So Republican Bashers..
By espaghetti on 1/16/2012 1:48:55 PM , Rating: 2
The problem rests in the size of the group of lobbyists sent from MPPIA and RIAA. Not a lot we can do unless we by more lobbyists.


RE: So Republican Bashers..
By espaghetti on 1/16/2012 1:49:39 PM , Rating: 2
**buy**
Grrr, no edit.


RE: So Republican Bashers..
By jRaskell on 1/16/2012 2:40:24 PM , Rating: 2
Or alternatively, shoot all lobbyists.

Just saying.


RE: So Republican Bashers..
By espaghetti on 1/17/2012 1:19:23 AM , Rating: 3
Why the violence?
Clear your mind must be, if you are to find the villains behind this plot.


RE: So Republican Bashers..
By Ryrod on 1/16/2012 11:55:34 PM , Rating: 2
Reclaimer77, this isn't a partisan issue. And just so you are aware, a Republican introduced the SOPA in the House, and a Democrat introduced PIPA in the Senate.

SOPA is a highly complex piece of legislation to deal with an issue that is considered important given our shift to an IP and service-based economy. Change does need to come about with regard to copyright laws and their enforcement mechanisms, just not through SOPA and the unintended consequences that would derive from this legislation. While I have not read PIPA, I highly doubt that would solve the problem either. This issue has come about because businesses feel the need to protect their interests from threats both at home and abroad, and they believe the usual methods have not secured compliance with copyright law. This is simply Congress attempting to heed the calls of business and be responsive to the needs of the "job creators".

In this case, it's not as though either party gets to claim the victory flag for killing the legislation because this is a bipartisan issue. Members in both parties are for and against it, and it's not the hallmark of either party's platform. Both parties are trying to get legislation to protect business from illegal copyright infringement. So it's not as if we are dealing with Republicans being the heroes and Democrats being the villains, or vice versa.

Now, the Senate could just as easily kill the PIPA tomorrow, but I highly doubt you would post a comment saying "So Democrat Bashers..How are you going to spin this one?" In this case, all you are trying to do is to bait people, and it is really unnecessary.


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