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GM is looking to pull in all 8,000 Volts off the road as well as the 4,400 for sale

General Motors (GM) is launching a customer service campaign, which is similar to a recall, on 8,000 Chevrolet Volts running on U.S. roads in an effort to address possible battery fire issues.

In May 2011, Chevrolet's plug-in hybrid electric vehicle (EV), the Volt, caught fire three weeks after a side-impact crash test conducted by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA). The Volt was parked in a NHTSA testing facility in Wisconsin. The fire provoked an investigation into the safety of lithium batteries.

Later in November 2011, NHTSA conducted three more side-impact crash tests on three separate Volts. Two out of three ended up sparking or catching fire while the third remained normal.

GM took action right away, saying it will make any changes necessary to keep drivers safe. The automaker even offered loaner vehicles to Volt drivers that didn't feel safe in their vehicles, and said it'd buy Volts back from owners that requested to sell.

Now, GM is advising Volt owners to bring their EVs to the dealerships for a customer service campaign, which is like a recall but without the bad publicity attached. There are currently 8,000 Volts on U.S. roads and another 4,400 in showrooms for sale.



Dealers will address the battery issues by adding steel to the plate that protects the EV's T-shaped, 400-pound battery. This will prevent penetration into the battery in case of an auto accident, which will ultimately stop coolant from leaking. It will also evenly distribute the force of a crash.

NHTSA already tested Volts with the new added steel around the battery in December, and found that it was the right fix for the problem. However, it will continue to monitor the car for another week to make sure that it doesn't catch fire later on like the Volt back in May managed to do.

"The preliminary results of the crash test indicate the remedy proposed by General Motors today should address the issue," said NHTSA.

"We have tested the Volt's battery systems through [the equivalent of] 25 years of operation," said Mary Barra, GM's vice president for global product development. "We're taking these steps to provide peace of mind to our customers."

Sources: InsideBayArea, CNN



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RE: Volt Outsells the Prius
By The Raven on 1/6/2012 10:14:47 AM , Rating: 2
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the Volt has a $7500 Federal tax credit vs. the lame $2000 Federal tax deduction available on hybrids.
Funny, I thought they were both lame.


RE: Volt Outsells the Prius
By V-Money on 1/6/2012 12:29:29 PM , Rating: 5
Tell me about it, I had to pay a $1300 gas guzzler tax for my car because apparently it was supposed to discourage me from buying it,funny, I always thought that was what the $80,000 price tag was for. But hey, its all good, Phryguy is so much better for wanting to drive a hybrid that a $2000 deduction isn't good enough for him, maybe the government can just double my taxes and pay for his whole car...end rant.


RE: Volt Outsells the Prius
By Sahrin on 1/6/12, Rating: -1
RE: Volt Outsells the Prius
By The Raven on 1/6/2012 2:56:11 PM , Rating: 2
Yes he is talking about having to pay more for using more fuel. So yes, he is already paying for any effects of the used fuel. The subsidized person essentially gets rewarded for burning the same amount of fuel. The point of the subsidy is that you would burn less of it.

But when it just makes it easier (cheaper) to drive everywhere? We do not know yet the behavioral effects of these more efficient cars. I constantly volunteer my Corolla as a passenger carrier because it gets good mileage. If it did not, I'm not sure what I would do but I wouldn't be as liberal with it, that is for sure. So in my case the effect of me having a Corolla equates to more miles driven.

The subsidies don't directly "reverse-tax" people who use a lot of fuel. If it was then he would get a subsidy on his 10 mpg truck that he drives 10 miles a day, while the guy who drives a 40 mpg car 80 miles a day would not.

The sure way to decrease emissions while steering clear of gas taxes that hurt the poor, is to actually discourage burning of fuel (petrol or coal). How do we do that? How about we don't subsidize suburban housing and reform zoning laws so people could more easily live close to their offices, etc. More freedom would help us out here. But unfortunately the two-party system in the US just wants to buy votes.


RE: Volt Outsells the Prius
By The Raven on 1/6/2012 2:57:55 PM , Rating: 2
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The point of the subsidy is that you would burn less of it.
Sorry I meant The HOPE of the subsidy is that you would burn less of it.


RE: Volt Outsells the Prius
By Jedi2155 on 1/8/2012 1:13:11 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
Yes he is talking about having to pay more for using more fuel. So yes, he is already paying for any effects of the used fuel. The subsidized person essentially gets rewarded for burning the same amount of fuel. The point of the subsidy is that you would burn less of it.


While this makes sense if the true cost of fuel is the amount we pay at the pump, it does not take into account the cost of subsidizing policy decisions made to secure foreign oil maintaining the natural environment.


RE: Volt Outsells the Prius
By The Raven on 1/9/2012 10:57:59 AM , Rating: 2
I'm having trouble following you here. Regardless of other cost to use oil, it is included if you drive a Hummer or a Prius.

And if you are talking about the Volt specifically know that it is largely powered by another fossil fuel...coal. So instead of "No Blood for Oil" protestors would chant "No Blood for Coal" if everyone drove a Volt. Reason being that there is not enough coal in the US to power all of our vehicles. So where is the difference there?

How exactly do we subsidize policy decisions? You mean with our two-party votes? Yeah I guess you would have a point there. Those are subsudizing our crappy FP. Vote Libertarian/Ron Paul or any other small gov't 3rd party if you want to change that.

We don't need taxes and subsidies that might sway a few hundred people. We need a more free market that would naturally increase/decrease the cost of fuel (i.e. regulate fuel prices) and sway millions not to burn as much of it.


RE: Volt Outsells the Prius
By Mint on 1/9/2012 11:51:56 AM , Rating: 2
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Reason being that there is not enough coal in the US to power all of our vehicles
Where did you get that from?

140B gallons of gasoline per year would need maybe 1.5TWh of electricity to replace, and that would be 20+ years from now (we can't replace 200 million cars instantly). We'd probably only wind up replacing the imported part of it (roughly half). And who said we have to use coal? Why not nuclear? Even CCGT is almost as cheap as coal nowadays.

Adding 20% to electricity generation in 20 years is a piece of cake for the US. EVs will probably wind up bringing average electricity cost down, because they charge primarily at night, when we have surplus capacity anyway. We'd only need a few percent higher capacity, and existing plants would increase their capacity factor.


RE: Volt Outsells the Prius
By The Raven on 1/10/2012 11:21:12 AM , Rating: 2
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Where did you get that from?
To be honest it is just a guess based on the fact that gasoline has a higher energy content.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_content_of_bio...
It is roughly 50% more powerful.

On the other hand I would like to know where you got your numbers (not that I necessarily doubt them).
quote:
And who said we have to use coal? Why not nuclear? Even CCGT is almost as cheap as coal nowadays.

I didn't say that we had to use coal, but the fact remains that coal is the majority (link below) here in the US and I just read somewhere that in China (as an important global example) it is 80% of their power source.
http://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/index.cfm?page=...

And yes, I am all for nuclear power proliferation and especially research. Unfortunately it is more difficult to convince a Harvard educated man that nuclear is a great option than it is to convince Joe Sixpack to use a CFL.

But having said that, ideally I think that we should reduce our consumption of power regardless of the source. If we were beholden to the real price we would think twice before leaving our PCs on all day. And the real price doesn't include subsidies like this (and of course others like housing credits, etc.).

But to get back to my response to you, I fail to see what you think the power grid will be powered by in the future. You see nuclear as the majority source of power? Renewables only account for ~10% of generation now. What do you think it will rise to? Nat Gas will be gone by 2070 from what I have read, so that is what we would be looking at, something like 80% nuclear and 20% renewable.

Having said all of this, I am not against electric cars and may want to buy one myself one day, my point is that they should not be subsidized. Neither 'coal' nor 'oil' powered cars should be subsidized.

Anyway maybe I am wrong and we could use some subsidies. Subsidizing bikes would be a much better idea. Reduce carbon emissions, commute costs and solve the obesity epidemic in one fell swoop.


RE: Volt Outsells the Prius
By V-Money on 1/8/2012 3:49:36 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
...you are using more fuel to cover the same distance which means you are emitting more pollutants in the atmosphere than the average car would. The government is asking you to 'true up' for that.


That's the problem with assumptions. What you don't know about me is that my main vehicle is a small sport bike that averages 60MPG (my numbers are 59.6), and I never drive my Caddy around town so I average 17MPG (as logged by onstar). I drive my motorcycle 5x as much as my car (distance-wise)so my average MPG is ~52.5MPG, what does your Prius get. With that knowledge now, where is my rebate or tax incentive.


RE: Volt Outsells the Prius
By Skywalker123 on 1/7/2012 6:04:21 PM , Rating: 2
No,the $80,000 price tag is an idiot tax for paying that much for a car. Hey, its all good though, you're so much better than everyone who pays $30,000 for a car.


RE: Volt Outsells the Prius
By V-Money on 1/8/2012 3:43:31 PM , Rating: 2
Wow, you are completely right, wanting something nice must make me an idiot, wanting to have the latest in technology (V-series coupe, a lot of the tech is already trickling down the line) and helping pay for that technology to trickle down to those aforementioned 30k cars makes me a complete ass who is better than everyone else. Get over yourself man, it turns out I like having a nice car, I use 2 ply toilet paper, I spring the extra quarter for albacore tuna, and last time I checked I can spend my money how I want cause I went out and earned it, what are you a communist. I grew up in extreme poverty, I didn't much like it so I went out and changed my life and got everything I wanted, thats the American dream, quit trying to f*** it up.


RE: Volt Outsells the Prius
By Skywalker123 on 1/8/2012 10:07:40 PM , Rating: 2
Glad you agree you are an idiot, you CAN spend your money anyway you want, but it still makes you an idiot for spending 80g for a car.


RE: Volt Outsells the Prius
By V-Money on 1/8/2012 10:45:47 PM , Rating: 2
If you want to use that logic, my previous car was a 2007 Scion TC which cost me 17K, and I loved that car, so all of you must be idiots for spending 30k on a car. It sounds more like you're just a jealous douchebag who can't even imagine spending 80k on a car, but its okay, I realize I'm better than you and I respect your asinine opinion. By the way, you're welcome for helping the economy you cheap bastard :-)


RE: Volt Outsells the Prius
By petelobl on 1/7/12, Rating: 0
RE: Volt Outsells the Prius
By The Raven on 1/10/2012 10:19:03 AM , Rating: 2
OK let's do it your way. Tell me what one is the worst and I will focus only on that one.


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