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Leaked roadmap shows two major Windows Phone releases coming shortly

It looks like 2012 will be an interesting year for Windows Phone.  A leaked slide deck offers the first tidbits about Microsoft Corp's (MSFT) launch plans for 2012 -- a year some are billing as a make it or break it year for Microsoft.

Windows Phone (WP) 7.5 Mango is still relatively new on the market, but Microsoft is already cooking up its successor (or perhaps counterpart) dubbed Tango.  Set to launch in Q2 2011, Tango will bring the Mango experience to lower-priced budget smartphones.  

Microsoft has been pretty strict thus far about its hardware specifications (e.g. requiring a 1 GHz CPU), so it should be interesting to see if lower end hardware can keep pace.  Windows Phone is perhaps the most fluid operating system on the market today, in terms of animations, when navigating the core menus interface.  If the budget hardware indeed makes the WP experience clunkier, it should be interesting how much that cripples the UI experience.

Windows Phone roadmap
[Image Source: WMPoweruser.com]

Tango is likely heavily crafted with Microsoft's premium partner Nokia Oyj. (HEL:NOK1V) in mind.  While Nokia has struggled in the U.S., it has flourished with budget handsets in other very large markets like China.  Nokia has promised to transition all of its smartphone lineup to the Windows Phone platform.  In order to get its budget handsets onboard with that plan, WP Tango will be necessary.

For WP fans, the more exciting launch will likely be the Q4 2012 "Apollo".  Perhaps the rumored Windows Phone 8, Apollo will bring support for "super phones" (think LTE, large HD screens, dual-core CPUs, and more).  While some Windows Phones (think the HTC Titan) have offered more of a premium hardware experience, they still trail Android models in CPU speed (less noticeable) and screen resolution (more noticeable).

Samsung Galaxy S II
Next year Windows Phone will finally get the kind of gorgeous HD, super-smartphones that Android users have long enjoyed.

The slide also indicates it will improve the business experience.

Microsoft's slide also indicates that a key objective of Apollo is to "increase overall volume".  Well, duh -- even the typically enthusiastic Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer has said that Windows Phone sales have been "very low".  With Nokia's transition to WP, Microsoft will instantly gain a large international market share, but it will need to push hard to win over the U.S. market, which is currently being dominated by a Google Inc. (GOOG) Android and Apple, Inc. (AAPL) iPhone duopoly.

While its success is uncertain, Microsoft continues to pour money into the mobile space and cook up novel product -- from an operating system perspective, if not yet from a hardware perspective.  Thus it seems inevitable that sooner or later its effort will see at least modest success.  2012 will verily be an exciting year for WP fans.

Source: WMPoweruser



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RE: "Superphones" is an odd statement
By sprockkets on 12/28/2011 10:18:11 PM , Rating: 0
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No, they don't and they don't care. They go with the Android because that's what salespeople push and the commercials are cool. They go with Apple because it's Apple and they think it's automatically awesome.


So if by your viewpoint no one buys phones for rational reasons, WP7 is already doomed.

I'm also sure the iphone4S didn't need dual core processors either, but it has it, and it makes a difference in the ability to take video, photos, share wifi and browser performance. You claiming it is only there for eye candy is quite a tired misconception.


By Labotomizer on 12/29/2011 8:39:31 AM , Rating: 2
I think you underestimate the power that salespeople have. That is the absolute number one problem WP7 has currently. If you go in and try to buy a Windows Phone the salespeople will try to steer you into something else. If you go in looking for a smart phone without naming a specific brand they won't even bother showing you a Windows Phone. They'll show you Android and iPhone. That's it. Until salespeople actually try to sell the platform then the rest of their marketing campaign won't do any good.

If I'm your average consumer and I walk into a phone store where I believe the salespeople are experts and I say "Hey, that Windows Phone looked cool, can I check it out?" and I get "Oh, you should check out the iPhone or this Android over here instead" I'm just going to go along with what they guide me to. After all, they're the "experts". MS needs to target the people in the stores first and foremost.


RE: "Superphones" is an odd statement
By Arsynic on 12/29/2011 2:59:44 PM , Rating: 1
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I'm also sure the iphone4S didn't need dual core processors either, but it has it, and it makes a difference in the ability to take video, photos, share wifi and browser performance.


*Scratches head*

Damn, DT has some of the thickest users I've ever seen who contradict themselves within the same sentence. If the 4S didn't need a dual core processor then Apple wouldn't have included one. If adding a dual core processor "makes a difference" in the things you stated, then by fuck, it was needed all along.

Explain to me why a WP7 single-core phone would need a dual core processor if it's just as fast as a 4S or Android phone? It's like saying a Ferrari needs to get a 600 HP engine to match the Mack truck's 600 HP engine even though a Ferrari smokes the Mack truck. The Mack truck needs the 600 HP engine to pull a trailer full of shit. The Android OS is basically a trailer full of shit.


By sprockkets on 12/30/2011 9:23:16 PM , Rating: 2
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*Scratches head* Damn, DT has some of the thickest users I've ever seen who contradict themselves within the same sentence. If the 4S didn't need a dual core processor then Apple wouldn't have included one. If adding a dual core processor "makes a difference" in the things you stated, then by fck, it was needed all along.


It was sarcasm for the OP, duh.

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Explain to me why a WP7 single-core phone would need a dual core processor if it's just as fast as a 4S or Android phone?


One reason why wp7 is so fluid is because they made the ui animations so slow. Ars states that as such on their review of the latest wp7 phone - android runs the gui at a higher rate.

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It's like saying a Ferrari needs to get a 600 HP engine to match the Mack truck's 600 HP engine even though a Ferrari smokes the Mack truck. The Mack truck needs the 600 HP engine to pull a trailer full of sht. The Android OS is basically a trailer full of


Here's the problem with your analysis. I've already stated how a dual core processor helps with multi-tasking, the ability to and background operations, or stuff like taking fast photos, real time voice to text, something that WP7 didn't do from the outset(does it even do it now, can't remember). Having 2 cores do work at a lower freq is more efficient than a fast single core. It's like saying I'd rather have a good inline 6 cyl engine than a high reving honda s2000 that puts out 240 hp but at such a ridiculous rpm.

Btw, both iOS and wp7 get their smoothness from the gpu, something that was not fully implemented until android version 3.0, and then 4.0 for phones. You or I can spin this anyway you want - it either means both iOS and Wp7 are crap because they need to use both a GPU and CPU just to be useable and Android sucks for not doing that via the GPU but the CPU.


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