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It's too early in the investigation to know if changes are needed

The Chevrolet Volt is the first and only extended range EV on the U.S. market today. The Volt has been in the spotlight recently after the NHTSA found that two of three vehicles caught fire after side impact testing. One of the vehicles that caught fire didn’t burst into flames until three weeks after the crash test. The other started sparking and smoking immediately after the test.

 
Understandably, GM is eager to get to the root of the problem with the Volt fires. GM's Mary Barra, VP of global product development for GM said, "I have engineers working shoulder-to-shoulder with the NHTSA engineers right now," said Mary Barra, vice president of global product development for GM. "We are looking to say, 'Are there some design changes that we can make — something more robust in this location or that location or this component?'"
 
However, the automaker does note that any changes would need to be rigorously tested both at GM and with outside sources.
 
GM also says that if the investigation determines that changes need to be made to the design of the battery packs, it will make those changes as quickly as possible. She also points out that there still isn't any indication of just how long the investigation into the fires will last.
 
GM's Mary Barra with a Chevrolet Cruze [Source: GM] 

GM is taking the concerns of the roughly 6,000 Volt owners in the U.S. seriously and has offered to loan Volt owners a different vehicle until the investigating is completed. GM has also noted that if a Volt owner wanted to sell their Volt back to GM, it would buy the car back. Originally, it sounded like all the Volt owner had to do was ask and GM would buy their car back. Some statements that Barra made make it sound as though a buyback isn't a given in each case. Barra said, "First, we're going to have a conversation and understand their specific concern."
 
She added, "But if, as we go through that process, we get to a point where we think it's the right thing to do for that customer to protect the customer's satisfaction and show that General Motors puts the customers first, then that's what we'll do."

Source: Detroit News



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RE: This car was complete fail...
By Reclaimer77 on 12/6/2011 12:53:55 PM , Rating: 2
Combined efficiency is a crock because it swings wildly based on trip distance. For example when GM arrived at their 200+ MPG test numbers, they drove the Volt 50 miles so that it barely burned any fuel, then proclaimed a "combined" MPG of 230! Do you really think that's a fair and honest way to relate efficiency to the consumer?

The REAL combined MPG of the Volt in "charge sustaining mode" is 36MPG. Sorry but that's it. I guess you're going to argue with popular mechanics. So where's the better combined efficiency over hybrid technology?

http://gm-volt.com/2010/10/10/popular-mechanics-fi...

Maybe you need to hear this from someone else. I'm tired of pointing out to you the fallacy and dishonest premise you insist and debating from.

http://gas2.org/2010/10/14/motor-trend-claims-volt...


By Reclaimer77 on 12/6/2011 12:56:29 PM , Rating: 1
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And yet, you can't produce a single non-hybrid vehicle


The Volt is obviously competing with hybrids though. Why do I have to provide a NON-hybrid example again? Just trying to understand your reasoning here, besides moving the goalposts.


RE: This car was complete fail...
By Masospaghetti on 12/6/2011 2:35:42 PM , Rating: 1
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...and it's MPG is pretty shitty compared to ALL "economy" vehicles.

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The Volt is obviously competing with hybrids though. Why do I have to provide a NON-hybrid example again?

You compared the Volt with "economy" vehicles and claimed its efficiency is "shitty" compared to all of them. That's why I challenged you to come up with another "economy" vehicle with better fuel economy, and you still cannot.
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...the Volt doesn't hold much appeal because it's ICE mileage is really bad

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We're talking the MPG of JUST the ICE engine. Which is horrible

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Combined efficiency is a crock because it swings wildly based on trip distance. For example when GM arrived at their 200+ MPG test numbers

You were complaining about the Volt's ICE-only fuel economy, which does not vary with trip distance. Hence why I said previously:

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Masospaghetti: Name one "economy" vehicle that has a combined cycle EPA number higher than the Volt.

Volt: 35/40/37 MPG


I'm still waiting.


RE: This car was complete fail...
By Reclaimer77 on 12/6/2011 3:00:50 PM , Rating: 2
Sorry, still waiting for you to read the links. You obviously haven't or you're just THAT obtuse and stubborn on this thing.

To be honest you're moving the goalposts so much I don't even care anymore. First we're talking the ICE economy, then you throw in "combined cycle", then dare me to find a car that beats the Volt on MPG on the gas engine but you refer, again, to combined cycle!

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I'm still waiting.


You're serious? I thought that was a joke, because not even someone as ignorant as you could actually think the Volt is THE most efficient car out there. You can KEEP waiting, because I'm not going to waste my time answering a question that any sane human being would view as rhetorical.


RE: This car was complete fail...
By Masospaghetti on 12/6/2011 3:15:24 PM , Rating: 2
"Combined cycle" means city+highway driving on the ICE alone, and had nothing to do with the battery, hence why I wrote (for the third time now)
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Masospaghetti: Name one "economy" vehicle that has a combined cycle EPA number higher than the Volt.

Volt: 35/40/37 MPG

If I was including electric operation, that number would have been almost double that. Straight from www.fueleconomy.gov, using their wording, not mine.

So Reclaimer: what "economy" car gets better fuel economy than 35/40 mpg? Did I ask that straightforward enough?

I've completely lost track of what your gripe is about this car. The goalpost hasn't moved.


By Reclaimer77 on 12/6/2011 3:52:32 PM , Rating: 1
My main gripe is the tax rebate. I don't give a fuck if you want to drive a Volt, just don't ask me to help foot the bill for you!


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