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Firefox drops to third place
Chrome is the second most used browser behind Internet Explorer globally

The browser wars have raged for years. Generally, the winner in the market has been Internet Explorer thanks to the overwhelming number of computers worldwide that run the Windows operating system (and don’t bother to change their default browser). For a while now the second most popular web browser has been Firefox, but there have been some changes in the market according to the latest stats.
StatCounter's latest numbers for the browser market show that Google Chrome has passed Firefox to take the second place spot. Firefox is still in a very close third place. Firefox had been kicked back to the third place spot in the UK in July of 2011 reports TechCrunch, so a global second place win isn’t that surprising for Chrome.
Chrome now has 25.7% of the worldwide market as of last month and Firefox has 25.23% of the market. Internet Explorer is still dominating the market with 40.63% of the global share.
In the U.S., Internet Explorer has even more of the market with 50.66% share.
In September, Firefox released version 7 of the browser specifically to address memory issues that plagued older versions of the browser. 

Source: TechCrunch

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RE: Android browser == chrome??
By Reclaimer77 on 12/1/2011 3:19:28 PM , Rating: -1
My main drive is an SSD so I really don't understand all this "Chrome is faster" unsubstantiated claptrap. There's simply no appreciable difference in speed between Firefox and Chrome for me. At all, whatsoever.

I guess if you have a crappy machine and the slow old hard drive is all bogged down, Chrome is "faster". For those with modern hardware and an SSD (which everyone should have at this point), it's a non issue. We get to pick the best browser for us, not a stripped down one that we can then claim is "faster".

Then again I'm probably wasting my time, seeing as how you admittedly use Chromium on your laptop. An OS that truly has no purpose or redeeming qualities.

RE: Android browser == chrome??
By phatboye on 12/1/2011 3:48:41 PM , Rating: 4
I have a modern computer without an SSD. But I do have to agree that the difference in page loading times is irrelevant when comparing web browsers. One may load a page in 50ms the other in 60ms who the hell cares it's all the same. This isn't a fast paced FPS shooter we are talking about, this is a web browser loading a mostly static HTML page. So when I hear people bragging about how one browser loads pages faster than another I just ignore them.

That being said, I do like competition in the browser market. Ever since Chrome came out Mozilla has been working on decreasing Firefox's memory requirements and working even harder to comply with web standards. Overall this is a good thing and hopefully Mozilla will produce a better browser because of the competition.

RE: Android browser == chrome??
By TakinYourPoints on 12/1/2011 4:28:22 PM , Rating: 5
I've been using SSDs for over two years now and Chrome is certainly faster. Sorry you can't tell the difference.

RE: Android browser == chrome??
By Reclaimer77 on 12/2/2011 6:50:26 PM , Rating: 1
I've been using SSDs for over two years now and Chrome is certainly faster. Sorry you can't tell the difference.

Okay you're funny. The latest version of Firefox is dead even with Chrome in page load tests. You're dealing with outdated information, all of you. Chrome is no longer faster than Firefox. I'm not sure what "difference" you're noticing, but it's all in your heads.

In fact Firefox 9 is looking pretty awesome and promises to be even FASTER. The best browser out there just get's better and better.

RE: Android browser == chrome??
By rs1 on 12/2/2011 7:36:46 PM , Rating: 3
It's not just about page load time. It's about how long it takes to switch between tabs, or open a new tab, or close an existing one. I agree with you that page load time is essentially identically between *every* major browser.

But the subjective experience of using Chrome compared to using Firefox or using IE *feels* significantly quicker. And it has nothing to do with the page-load times that you are harping on. It's about the responsiveness of the application itself, not how fast it parses and renders HTML.

RE: Android browser == chrome??
By Reclaimer77 on 12/2/2011 7:40:54 PM , Rating: 1
But the tabs are already loaded, you're just switching from viewing one to the other. It happens instantly. If there's a delay in this process, that's a local issue, not a browser one.

RE: Android browser == chrome??
By tastyratz on 12/5/2011 11:45:18 AM , Rating: 2
I want to like chrome, but I am a tab hoarder sometimes having hundreds open at a time. I know I shouldn't, but it is how I operate. I would love to see "workspaces" which would be ideal to me. I open tons of pages on a subject and do lots of research, then leave them in a window for when I am prepared (for example, before doin a specific job on my car or home). many pages are not worth bookmarking, nor taking the cumbersome steps to do so. They are 1 time use important but disposable tabs.
Chrome is minimalistic and good for the minimalistic browser. Firefox seems to be the only one powerful enough to do what I need on that scale and still remain relatively stable. I also find myself with a SLEW of specific plugins for firefox I simply could not live without in chrome...

RE: Android browser == chrome??
By jtemplin on 12/5/2011 10:01:52 PM , Rating: 2
Anyone worrying about browser performance clearly doesn't have a fast enough computer. My PC crushes through any browser no matter what. So its just a question of add-ons and features.

I use Ad-block plus, NoScript and BetterPrivacy. Keep my web content on the filtered tip. Pretty sure there is no chrome eqvuivalent.

Also, not sure why people are mentioning SSDs. Not relevant at all to page load speed. Its all CPU/RAM. Maybe loading a cached page...?

RE: Android browser == chrome??
By wordsworm on 12/1/2011 6:08:40 PM , Rating: 3
That's not true. I have an old slow machine, and FF is just as fast as Chrome. But, Chrome crashes more, and it's not as easy to modify as FF. So, I'll stick with FF.

I think the only reason Chrome is passing FF is because of the Android slates that are selling in massive quantities these days.

RE: Android browser == chrome??
By Lugaidster on 12/1/2011 8:12:24 PM , Rating: 2
I for one like Chrome better. I'm more used to it's minimalistic interface.

The "Chrome is faster" comment is probably more of a residual prejudice from the FF 3.x days. Back then, my "crappy" (by your standards) laptop certainly ran Chrome better. It's sort of like saying IE9 sucks because previous versions did, when IE9 is a pretty decent browser. It's a shame that it's already outdated because of the long release cycle, though.

BTW, not everyone has the money to go buying SSDs today, we are in a global recession FYI. Besides, SSDs are pretty expensive in international markets (add around a 50% on top of North American prices). When you take price into account you'll see why they aren't that widespread in spite of all their benefits. I myself have been eyeing out a Crucial M4 for quite a while for my laptop but decent capacities are just too expensive in my country (around 350 USD for a 128 GB version).

Everyone probably wants to have the greatest-and-latest in technology, but there are other things to consider besides that. BTW, there are better ways to showoff your new and shiny SSD.

RE: Android browser == chrome??
By wordsworm on 12/4/2011 7:29:02 AM , Rating: 2
The biggest things for me are the customizable nature of FF. It's just so easy. For example, I have a lock on FF at work so that I can store passwords on it without risking some coworker going onto my work computer and accessing my email. I have a ribbon of bookmarks that contains the 10 or so most visited sites that I go to. 95% of my surfing is from habit, and the icons on the ribbon make it really easy to access them with a single click. For my blog, I often use Zemanta. I'm using it less these days, but my point is that FF is extremely easy to customize to my own specific needs. Chrome has never managed to do that for me.

Speed wise, I've never really noticed a difference. However, when I want to go to isohunt, FF used to redirect me to a Yahoo 404 site. It doesn't do that any more (just looked), but it was the only reason I used Chrome. Also, one more thing - I do keep a separate Facebook page that I give to students and coworkers so that I can keep my private life and professional life separate. It's easier to store that email address and that Facebook IDs on a separate browser from FF. Maybe there's a better way (like another FF plugin) to achieve that end.

But even the idea that Chrome is better and more stable - well, FF does crash from time to time, but so does Chrome. I haven't seen a difference there. Thus, I find FF still to be much better suited to my needs than Chrome.

RE: Android browser == chrome??
By nocturne_81 on 12/4/2011 12:51:01 PM , Rating: 1
Well, I have an SSD also.. And I still notice quite a performance increase with Chrome vs all but a few nightly builds of FF. Though, what I consider performance in a browser has nothing to do with page load/rendering times -- it's all about ease-of-use.. Throughout thousands of pages, I might save a total of a few seconds in page loading times using one browser over another, while a simple and incredibly functional interface increases productivity much, much more.

Also, I doubt many browser benchmarks come close to the amount of abuse I put my system through.. At the moment, I have 5 windows open in Chrome, each with at least 20 tabs (don't ask, hehe). Trying the same is nearly impossible in ie9 without the shell crashing, and while it may work successfully in FF, performance of the browser as a whole is incredibly crippled.

I originally switched over to Chrome right after it's initial release purely for it's reliability. I had recently built a new system and had been unlucky enough to have received a bad memory module, and IE and my previously preferred FF refused to run for more than a few moments without crashing. Chrome ran great -- and after becoming accustomed to it's extremely intuitive user interface, I even convinced my 72yr old father to make the switch as well.

"I modded down, down, down, and the flames went higher." -- Sven Olsen
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