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Sony Exec agrees with Microsoft Exec regarding Nintendo's Wii

In strange turn of events after E3 ended this week, Sony Computer Entertainment executive Phil Harrison agrees with Microsoft’s Corporate Vice President Peter Moore regarding Nintendo’s Wii. A few days ago Peter Moore was quoted saying that consumers could purchase a Microsoft XBOX 360 and a Nintendo Wii for the same price as a single PlayStation 3. According to GamePro, Harrison said console buyers should buy a Nintendo Wii in addition to a next generation system, whether it is the XBOX 360 or PlayStation 3. According to The Wire:

"I think Peter Moore is exactly right," Harrison said. "I think Nintendo will be the second system consumers purchase after PlayStation 3. I haven't had a chance to check out the Wii myself, but Nintendo has a great history of innovation and has always done great things for gaming and long may they do so."

If this is the case, several game publications anticipate the console war will only be between Sony and Microsoft in the high end while Nintendo sits back as the third wheel capturing the mainstream market with the cheaper Wii. Despite this, Nintendo could still very well end up with the number one selling console in its generation in the long run. The high cost of Sony's game console could leave it out of the hands of the average console gamer. Despite the high $500-600 price tag, Harrison is still defending the PlayStation 3’s value with the built in Blu-ray player. How Sony is going to market the feature is yet to be seen as Blu-ray has constantly been delayed.

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Everyone loves Wii

By NagoyaX on 5/15/06, Rating: 0

RE: Everyone loves Wii

By tuteja1986 on 5/15/06, Rating: 0

RE: Everyone loves Wii

By tuteja1986 on 5/15/2006 2:17:32 AM , Rating: 2

When Peter More said buy an xbox 360 and Wii because its the same price as the PS3 non-R#$@rd pack it did make sense.

Wii* correction

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RE: Everyone loves Wii

By AndreasM on 5/15/2006 2:46:21 AM , Rating: 3

quote:
When Peter More said buy an xbox 360 and Wii because its the same price as the PS3 non-R#$@rd pack it did make sense.

Wii* correction

Am I the only one who has no clue as to wth "non-R#$@rd" means?

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RE: Everyone loves Wii

By mxzrider2 on 5/15/2006 2:49:11 AM , Rating: 2

after looking at it i think it means non-retard, didnt know it had to be censored now

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RE: Everyone loves Wii

By fungry on 5/15/2006 4:30:45 AM , Rating: 2

lol don't worry, i too had trouble figuring what that stood for..

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RE: Everyone loves Wii

By rushfan2006 on 5/15/2006 8:30:52 AM , Rating: 2

Thank you guys...for a moment there I was thinking I was totally out of it -- because for the life I mean I couldn't understand wth that guy was talking about. Come to think of it, even if you re-read his post with the word "non-retard" in it -- it still is a bit strange to grasp what he means.

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RE: Everyone loves Wii

By AnnihilatorX on 5/15/2006 3:45:35 AM , Rating: 1

It's a conspiracy!
Nintendos are paying them to do this!

Just a speculation :P

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RE: Everyone loves Wii

By Plasmoid on 5/15/2006 7:42:05 AM , Rating: 2

quote:
Till then i will be happy with Blue dragon , Lost planet , Forza 2 , Gears of war , Mass effect and halo 3.

Speaking of things not going to be out until 2007 or maybe even 2008....

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RE: Everyone loves Wii

By epsilonparadox on 5/15/2006 1:22:12 PM , Rating: 2

Forza 2 and Gears of War will be out this year.

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RE: Everyone loves Wii

By Samus on 5/15/2006 2:49:38 PM , Rating: 2

Halo 3 releases on the day the ps3 does, supposedly. ouch for sony.

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RE: Everyone loves Wii

By neba on 5/15/2006 3:06:37 PM , Rating: 2

Halo 3 in early to mid 2007, PS3 in 11/06, Samus...

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RE: Everyone loves Wii

By blwest on 5/15/2006 9:05:22 AM , Rating: 3

lrn2english pls kkthxbye

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RE: Everyone loves Wii

By Scabies on 5/15/2006 11:12:33 AM , Rating: 2

likewise ;D

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So they agree with MS...

By Gatt on 5/15/2006 2:19:39 AM , Rating: 1

But they think that instead of getting a 360 and a Wii for $500-600, that everyone should shell out $700-900 for a PS3 and a Wii instead?

Bah. They really need to realize that their pricing guarantees PS3's early death. Do they honestly think that people will shell out nearly a grand for what they can purchase for the price of the PS3?

RE: So they agree with MS...

By toukale on 5/15/2006 8:10:09 AM , Rating: 2

This is where you and a lot of people in the media are wrong. Whether people realize this or not, ps3 is going to sell out. What most people are not taken into account is the fact that early adopters will not care about price and I am one of them. Is it expensive, sure, but when I look at the total package it has good value. I have a 42' HD television and plan to buy HD contents for it. Now, I spend $400 on a 360 and later will have to purchase an add on in order for me to play HD content on it. What do you think that will cost me? M$ is not going to give it for free now will they? Why do you think they did not announce the price for the HD-dvd price? I will be shock if its not between $150-$200 which will put it in the same price range as the ps3. Where is the value for people like me? Unless M$ plan to give this add-on for free, they are in the same boat as the ps3 as far as i am concern.

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RE: So they agree with MS...

By ogreslayer on 5/15/2006 9:28:46 AM , Rating: 2

Truthfully, I'm not sure you get it, the price expenditure on a PS3 is still more than that of a 360, exspecially when factoring in that 1-2 years later you are just gonna look to get a standalone Blu-Ray or HD-DVD player and that MS just to stick a knife in Sony's back will do a Christmas price drop of probably $50; Sony's only saving grace will be the fact that to some people Playstation is synonymous with console gaming. Their real problem is that their barebones system is still $100 more than their competitor. I can get a PS3 and depending on how the launch lineup seems to be forming I may fork out the $700-800 for the system a controller the tax and the insurance(cause you know its gonna break). And we all know how the average non-saavy parent buys stuff; " oh you're sold out of ps3's; but its tommy's birthday, oh you have the 360 for only 400 and the wii is 200, thats 2 for the price of 1... he'll be happier with that the playstation games look the same...". Hell those bastards at Gamestop, might do a 360/Wii bundle $700 for both with 2 xtra controllers and 2 games... just to counter act the lack of PS3 supplies

Note your big push for HD may be good for you but most people STILL don't have one... you are also probably better off waiting 6-9 months and getting a second gen player... I'm not buying a single movie until its decided, but thats me

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RE: So they agree with MS...

By neba on 5/15/2006 3:12:42 PM , Rating: 2

Let's not forget that all PS1 & PS2 games and for the gazzilion peeps that bought them wouldn't want their investment to go to waste. It's a next generation carry-over. This makes the PS3 almost essential...

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RE: So they agree with MS...

By Scabies on 5/15/2006 11:21:49 AM , Rating: 2

Pay extra to play HD content? What is 720p anyways?

HD-DVDs capacity wont be fully saturated for quite a while, seeing as less than half (probably less than a 1/4) of current/nearfuture '360 owners will be interested in an external HD-DVD player, thus software developers wont be interested in writing huge games that wont sell (or be able to be purchased.) The movie industry will probably keep doing standard DVDs for a long time as well, until HD-DVDs become mainstream in a year or two. By that time, a standalone HD-DVD player will be in an acceptably affordable range. though, I might back up thinking that I once had a computer with a whopping 400mb HDD.

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RE: So they agree with MS...

By Trisped on 5/15/2006 7:33:14 PM , Rating: 2

Games will not be released for the HD-DVD player. It is only for movies.

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RE: So they agree with MS...

By Trisped on 5/15/2006 7:35:47 PM , Rating: 2

Oh, and the HD DVD player is the perfect stop gap. Right now HD DVD players only out put in 1080i, as does the 360. In a while (1-2 years maybe?) newer HD DVD players will be released that will out put 1080p.

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By Danthemanz007 on 5/15/2006 2:40:27 AM , Rating: 2

"I think Nintendo will be the second system consumers purchase after PlayStation 3"

Haha, i think everyone will get a Wii, maybe end up getting a PS3 or Xbox360 later down the line (except the hardcore gamers and ppl who already have them).
This guy is seriously messed up if he thinks most people will spend $1000AUS on a console for a BR drive that you can even get content for when you can get more fun out of a console for 1/3rd of the price...

RE: HA

By kelmon on 5/15/2006 2:49:45 AM , Rating: 2

This was pretty much my reaction. I would buy a Wii BEFORE a PS3 because it appears to offer much better value for money. If Sony thinks that I'm goiing to fork over the kind of money they are asking for then they are very much mistaken. I have nothing much against the PS3 in terms of its features and expected position with the exception of its price and, as much as I hate to break this to Sony, the price is damned important (the arrogance of Sony that I'll pay whatever they like for a PlayStation is breathtaking). Microsoft stands a much better chance now of being a second console if only for the fact that their console will be cheaper than the PS3 and should come down in price much sooner than the PS3 will.

In the end I bought the original PlayStation and a PS2 but this time there will not be a third, and that's pretty sad.

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RE: HA

By Scabies on 5/15/2006 11:25:42 AM , Rating: 2

Agreed, the Wii is the only console that we cant complain about content for. Megaman 2? Marble Madness? Final Fantasy III? Zombies ate my Neighbors? Super Metroid? Chrono Trigger? All Sonics ever? All Mario's ever? (oohh mariopaint with the wiimote)
For $250, I can re-hash my childhood. Granted, a nominal fee will apply for each "arcade" (old) game purchased, but shoot I would do it anyways.

Oh wait, new console. So even more games will be released. 2 points.

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RE: HA

By Demonhitman on 5/15/2006 11:33:28 PM , Rating: 2

I agree as well. I think most of us have forgotten about one thing, the price of the games. I mean Xbox 360 are 59.99 and they are just DVD’s. What is a PS3 games going to cost?!? We all know that’s how M$ and Sony make their money. Look at the PSP’s games are just old PS2 games for the most part and they cost 39.99 or more. At less with the Wii I may get am old school classics for 9.99 or less I hope.

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RE: HA

By kelmon on 5/16/2006 2:48:08 AM , Rating: 2

Actually, that aspect of the equation hadn't even entered into my argument. But, now that you mention it...

...hmmm...Secret of Mana...

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Um, Yeah.

By Kilim on 5/15/2006 2:09:27 AM , Rating: 2

Sony's all about innovation, Baby.

RE: Um, Yeah.

By Kromis on 5/15/2006 3:17:03 AM , Rating: 1

LOL? Innovation? You sure about that?

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RE: Um, Yeah.

By tayhimself on 5/15/2006 8:18:00 AM , Rating: 2

Its called sarcasm.

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RE: Um, Yeah.

By Trisped on 5/15/2006 7:29:06 PM , Rating: 2

With all the stupid people around maybe you should off set your sarcasm with some sort of comment so that everyone knows what it is like </sarcasm>

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RE: Um, Yeah.

By BladeVenom on 5/15/2006 5:11:22 AM , Rating: 2

The biggest innovation is its high price. Who else would have thought to charge as much for a console as a PC.

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Rofl

By Griswold on 5/15/2006 4:01:46 AM , Rating: 2

Too late, MS said it first! :P

RE: Rofl

By BladeVenom on 5/15/2006 5:10:02 AM , Rating: 3

If Sony can do a bad job copying the Wii's controller, then they can do a bad job of copying Xbox's marketing.

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RE: Rofl

By Griswold on 5/15/2006 6:32:55 AM , Rating: 2

Wise words!

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RE: Rofl

By neba on 5/15/06, Rating: 0

RE: Rofl

By Trisped on 5/15/2006 7:41:15 PM , Rating: 2

Um, YES! It doesn't take that long to pull the rumble from your controller and stick in a few gyroscopes. I wouldn't be surprised if all the back ground work took less then 2 weeks (Make molds, test to see if new hardware fits, update circuitry - well maybe the circuitry update would take a few weeks longer but...). Remember, they don't have to have an actual commercial product for another 6 months.

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I think you are all missing the point.

By SilthDraeth on 5/15/2006 7:44:40 AM , Rating: 3

I didn't see this as a Sony vs MS debate.

It appeared to me, that not only is Nintendo advertising its new system, but MS, and Sony are as well.

You can't beat free marketting.
If MS says buy Wii, and Sony says buy Wii, then you will buy Wii, one way or the other, if you are influenced by the advertising.
A) You buy XBox360 and Wii
B) You buy PS3 and Wii
C) You buy all three
D) You can't afford PS3, or XBox360 so you buy Wii
E) You only buy one system, and it could by any of the three...

Yes, I know that it's pure speculation, but if 4/5 buy Wii, then it will be the #1 System sold.

RE: I think you are all missing the point.

By rushfan2006 on 5/15/2006 8:36:35 AM , Rating: 2

I think wii will be number one sold anyway -- at least in pure sales worldwide...it doesn't take a genius to figure out if a system costs $200 (plus has an emulator on it to play past system games as well - ie. it has "value")....and the two other systems are in price from $400-600, double to triple the cost, more folks are gonna opt to pay less. Despite what we think on these boards -- really the folks who have "heated debates" about buying PS3 ($600) and the Xbox360 with the HD-DVD, we are the minority gamers...the so called "hard core" who'll drop tons of money to game -- I firmly believe that the vast population of the world that has an interest in gaming, want to do it as cheap as possible.

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RE: I think you are all missing the point.

By BenSkywalker on 5/15/2006 9:00:00 AM , Rating: 1

Unless there is an enormous shift that there is no indication of yet, Wii will end up finishing close to tied for second in global installed base.

It seems like almost everyone here has missed the real point of the console market- Sony dominates it. Their fan base is staggering in comparison to the other two. Sony would have to do something terribly wrong to lost that edge- and the $600 price point end up for me being about $200 less then a 360 in real world dollars(MS creates a shortage of premium, ships a bunch of 'Core' and lets all those people who won't compromise for garbage spend an extra ~$300 in accesories to make a properly functioning system) including the HD-DVD add on(although I won't pick that up until games start shipping that require it).

I already own my 360, and I'll have a Wii on launch day(several of them actually, I have five kids) but there isn't really much doubt of who is going to win this generation. When all is said and done we should be looking at an installed base of ~210Million systems this gen, MS has sold about 2% of that so far- their head start means next to nothing.

This has nothing to do with how I want to see things nor which company I prefer(Sony is one of if not the poorest in every industry they are in IMO) just marketplace reality.

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RE: I think you are all missing the point.

By SilthDraeth on 5/15/2006 9:47:32 AM , Rating: 2

I know by your last statement you are not a Sony fan, and I agree with you about the staggering size of the Sony fan base.

But, you stated that you own A XBox360, not several, even though you have the reported 5 children, And you plan to purchase several Nintendo Wii(s).

You admission alone lends credence to the system. Whether it is first, or second, it will most definately be huge.

But again, I think the amazing thing is, that Nintendo has two juggernauts advertising for them, apparently for free at that.

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RE: I think you are all missing the point.

By bunnyfubbles on 5/15/2006 9:09:56 AM , Rating: 1

There's also the fact that this hardcore gamer is more interested in what Wii has to offer because it looks like a wildly different experience...I've been experiencing the same old game play with minor evolutionary changes for the past 10 years...the difference between Quake 1 and Quake 4 other than graphics isn't overly impressive.

I'm definitely ready for a change of pace.

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Nintendo the underdogs/darkhorse...

By clementlim on 5/15/06, Rating: 0

RE: Nintendo the underdogs/darkhorse...

By randomlinh on 5/15/2006 8:41:17 AM , Rating: 2

care to explain how an xbox360 is like a PC? both the 360 and ps3 are based off powerpc/cell? hell, so is the wii... they all are IBM inside... so how can you say the 360 is the same as a PC...

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RE: Nintendo the underdogs/darkhorse...

By ninjit on 5/15/2006 12:23:32 PM , Rating: 3

He can say that because he's an idiot

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RE: Nintendo the underdogs/darkhorse...

By epsilonparadox on 5/15/2006 1:24:28 PM , Rating: 2

because they both have the letters PC in it. PowerPC hello?? Do we have to explain everything?

End sarcasm.

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Looks like people don't want me to buy a PS3

By Kamus on 5/15/2006 10:41:02 AM , Rating: 3

Evryone here wants the PS3 to flop, and don't want people to buy a PS3 cause it's too expensive... ok, so it's expensive not even gonna try to argue that, but i'm planing to buy one anyway.
I don't mind paying extra for blu-ray, the standalone players will cost 1000 bucks, sounds like a pretty sweet deal to me, i'll get blu-ray AND a console that has _GOOD_ games in the works for it.
I bought an Xbox 360 in february, and untlil now there's not a SINGLE game out that has the same polish of the top PS2 games. (it's a good thing i have media center 2005 on my PC or the xbox 360 would be very lonley)
I was expecting to see games that were actually good showed at E3 2006, but for the most part we get the same stuff the xbox always gets:
either not so good exclusive games, or PC ports which obviously aren't made with the xbox 360 hardware in mind. thanks, but i'll pass on those games.
where's the xbox 360 okami? where's a game that's half as inovative as shadow of the colossus?
when is forza going to be half as good as Gran Turismo?
where is metal gear, final fantasy, tekken, virtua fighter?

hmm, i guess they have GTA comming, which a LOT of people love and that'll be good for them. (too bad i'm not one of them.)
Untill MS can fix the third party suport, which they OBVIOUSLY have been unable to do.(please don't bring up the games from the companies i mentioned earlier for the xbox 360, it's obviously NOT their top games, i mean... FFXI? for god's sake, that's a PS2 game!)
I can't see how spending 600 bucks on a console that's actually getting good software eventually is worse than spending 400 bucks on a console that doesn't have but 1 or 2 games that i'm actually intrested in. (and sadly for MS, i'm not alone.)

There's halo 3, which aparently managed to impress people with a teaser that shows that it's basicly Halo 2 on steroids. i can't, for the life of me figure out why people came out impressed with that teaser, there's a LOT of PC FPS out that look far better than that, not to say it will be a terrible game, it might actually be better than halo 2, which IMO was the most monotonus single player experience i've had since... halo 1, but multiplayer saved halo 2, will it save halo 3?
It just might, afterall if the rumours are true the game is being developed with 4 player coop in mind, which should instantly add to the fun factor even if the levels are monotonus.

People here want sony to fail because of multiple reasons (the main one being is that they are, for some reason fan of the one monopoly that's far bigger than sony, beats the hell out of me why they'd think that way.)

Well, i got bad news for those people... but untill MS can get the third party support it NEEDS to become a mainstream force, it's gonna be second best, people can ignore the fact that the xbox 360 is lacking in the one department that happens to matter the most when people that aren't early adopters go buy a console. And that is, better than avarage games.
I sure as hell didn't buy an xbox 360 so i could play PC ports that are made with legacy PC hardware in mind, and i sure as hell didn't buy it so i can't play the top japanese games on it.
Sure fanboys can argue that american developers will come out with good software, and they will, but guess what? most of those games are comming to PS3 also.
So the real question here is why shouldn't i buy a PS3? When it has the best deveopers working on it?
Fanboys can pretend that the lack of japanese support is not a big deal, but i got news for them:

IT IS A BIG DEAL! and MS is well aware of this.

RE: Looks like people don't want me to buy a PS3

By tenguman on 5/15/2006 11:07:40 AM , Rating: 2

I would really like to believe that when November 17th comes around, I can buy a PS3 for $600 bu we all know that isn't going to happen. GameStop and EBGames are going to bundle the crap outta these things and the prices are easily go to reach upwards of $800-$1000. I would rather buy a Wii bundle at the same time for $400 and get more games/accessories/VALUE.

I have had a 360 since launch and I love it. It is the center of my entertainment experience and I agree with Peter Moore about have a Wii to compliment it. I will pick up a PS3, eventually but not at launch. The price tag and the games have yet to entice me to invest in such a hype machine.

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RE: Looks like people don't want me to buy a PS3

By wallijonn on 5/15/2006 12:08:54 PM , Rating: 2

The GameCube has been last because of so few games. Meanwhile Halo3 will not play on an older gen XBOX; PS3 may "only" play PS2 games without increased visuals. If the older games were re-written to take advantage of the newer video codecs, then maybe a PS3 would make sense. But the plain fact is that very few games will be released with the unit.

I'd like to say that I'll buy an X360 when Halo3 comes out, but the fact that Halo 2 still hasn't come out for the PC basically means that I won't be playing Halo3 on my PC (Vista be damned.)

It's all about the games. Nintendo will probably keep making kiddie games (the vast majority of games are for kids, no?) Me - I want the newest Zelda. That's really all I want. Now, if they can clean up the visuals for Final Fantasy so that it actually looks good, instead of blocky, then people will flock to the Wii.

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Clever marketing boys

By lemonadesoda on 5/15/2006 6:32:58 AM , Rating: 2

Marketing Wizards.

SONY doesnt have a product out. M$ does. Winner: M$. Unless you can persuade people that M$ console is rubbish or that your solution is technically far superior.

However, if it isnt rubbish, or your product isnt far superior, then you have to use every trick in the book to try and persuade people NOT to buy M$ so they will still have cash in their pockets and an inclination to buy the PS3 later in the year.

Funny how it goes, but because the Wii is so interesting, it might actually SAVE the PS3 by canabalising M$ sales in 2006, and then when the games are ready, people will dig into their pockets again in 2007 for the PS3.

RE: Clever marketing boys

By neba on 5/15/2006 3:22:40 PM , Rating: 2

Wow dude; great assessment there...:/
Yep MS has a console out and it's doing well. But how is MS the winner when PS3 is not out yet? I assume you mean that MS "won" cause it was released 1st?? Or should we instead, WAIT till all consoles are out and THEN we look at the sales. Duh. More importantly, sales will persuade developers to switch teams- and yet MGS 4 is on the PS3 lineup. No one lost yet...

But I agree that the Wii will pull sales from the big 2...

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Complement != compliment

By McTwist on 5/15/2006 1:14:20 PM , Rating: 2

I hate to be one of those grammar nazis but I think the title is meant to be "Sony Executive Recommends Wii as Complement to PS3"

From Merriam-Webster (http://www.m-w.com):
complement:
1a: something that fills up, completes , or makes perfect
1b: the quantity or number required to make a thing complete; especially : the whole force or personnel of a ship
1c: one of two mutually completing parts

versus

compliment:
1a: an expression of esteem, respect, affection, or admiration; especially : an admiring remark
1b: formal and respectful recognition

RE: Complement != compliment

By KristopherKubicki

(blog) on 5/15/2006 2:56:32 PM , Rating: 2

Sorry, corrected.

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hahaha-

By Orpheus333 on 5/15/2006 2:18:33 AM , Rating: 1

BASICALLY both M$ and sony think Nintendo is going to flop and their trying to suck up into a position to buy them. Hahahaha...

joking.. a little. But with all that money M$ has, who knows. Obviously both companies aren't viewing the Wii as a serious competitor otherwise they wouldn't be recommending it IMO. It makes more since for M$ to recommed, having the lower priced system they are simply saying "buy us, and you can still get the Wii- two systems for the price of one sony"

I think Sony missed that memo...

RE: hahaha-

By Orpheus333 on 5/15/2006 2:19:41 AM , Rating: 2

makes more sense* not since >_<

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By hans007 on 5/15/2006 5:13:13 AM , Rating: 2

i think theres 2 things that will make the ps3 not quite as successful.

you only really need 1 super next generation game system. and a LOT of games are on both systems.

that said, the reason i won't buy a ps3 is simple. 1. its too expensive. and 2. i already have an xbox360.

i think there is amiddle ground of people who dont really want to just play party games and other games that the wii will have.

but they arent hardcore enough to buy a ps3 AND a 360. such as myself and basically all my friends. i mean had the ps3 come out reasonably close to when the xbox360 came out at lesat people woudl have waited and maybe picked one or the other. but seeing as the ps3 is barely better if at all than the 360 graphics wise (and really thats all you really want out of these "high end" consoles) then if you already have a 360 and don't have a money tree in your backyard you probably wont buy a ps3 anyway just because it came out SOOO much later that you already bought a 360 instead of waitin gto compare them.

i was able to walk into best buy and get my 360 sometime infebruary. i figure if the ps3 even launches on time, i wont realistically be able to buy one at say bestbuy until next april or so. and thats jus tway too long a period between 2 systems that are so similar in capability. and well i could care less about blue ray and i'm pretty sure its the same with 99.8% of the other people out there. hell i actually own a HDCP compliant 480p/1080i set and STILL dont care about blueray.

Wii will sell the most.

By Dev17 on 5/15/2006 6:13:39 AM , Rating: 2

I am getting a 360 and a Wii. I think Nintendos console will sell more than any other. Its so goddamn cheap in comparison.
Mario Galaxy and Smash Bros looks amazing.

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By sn1lloc on 5/15/2006 9:23:37 AM , Rating: 2

i think that wii is going to be my 2nd system right behind my computer with my ds

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By solvalou on 5/15/2006 10:06:07 AM , Rating: 2

SONY has 66% of the glopbal market, Microsoft 17% and Nintendo 17%. Nothing can stop SONY continuing to dominate the market with PS3 and thats a fact. By recommending everyone to buy Wii together with a super next generation console just have the opposite effect on peoples minds. This marketing should appeal to a new kind of consumer and not the usual average/hardcore gamer.

Wii Wiill Wiin

By FallenDeathAngel on 5/15/2006 12:29:14 PM , Rating: 1

The Wii will win, because many gamers are sick of the same thing over and over again. Stuck with a little piece of plastic that all they do is button mash on. We are looking for the next step in gaming and PS3 with their pathetic mockary of the Wiimote is sad. Microsoft alone with their Xbox Live, is a very large deterrant, seeing as Sony will offer their community database free of charge. Not sure about how the Wii will work with theirs, but its going to be innovative, because thats what Nintendo has always been, an innovation. Nintendo will strive to make sure that the customer is happy, which many of the Microsoft and Sony customers may be. Although, they lack the variety of gameplay that Nintendo may offer.

Seeing as many people have already hopped on with Microsoft and their 360, they seem to stay faithful, but everyone usually supports the product if they own it. I must admit that the 360 IS a great console, but it will fail eventually because it IS a Microsoft product. By fail I mean fall short of whatever the Wii and PS3 with throw out.

Personally speaking, I am going to wait until the last of the next-gen systems are released. These systems may show off what they can now, but I'm waiting until they show off their true colors, and I'm sure that the 360's are going to turn dark. I do not hold the 360 in high mind, because unless microsoft stops pussyfooting around, their systems are going to be shit.

Seems to me right now, that I'm going to be purchasing a PS3 and a Wii though. Don't know about the rest of you though.

Thats my two cents.

-FallenDeathAngel

RE: Wii Wiill Wiin

By solvalou on 5/15/2006 3:14:53 PM , Rating: 1

Personally I think Wii will be a big failure. Hardware power is not on pair with both PS2 X360, majority of games are for kids, and the controler was ment to be used by people that are not used to consoles like house wifes and grandmas.

Parent

No.

By ck1500 on 5/15/2006 3:55:03 PM , Rating: 2

Everyones apparently forgetting the PSP. Despite it being the entry handheld for Sony, it still did EXTREMELY well, despite a price tag of 100+ from the DS. Yes, when you compare it to the DS it was a fairly mediocre launch, but it still did well in its own right. (the point here is that sony sold a expensive product in a new field simply on brand name.)

Now there a couple of differences, such as a there being a third wheel (Microsoft), and the fact that Nintendo's console is incredibly cheap for what it offers, but overall, I simply can't see Sony failing.

A large portion of people buy something simply for the brand name, regardless of price, and they have always done so. It applies to NIKE and basketball shoes, it applies to the Sony discman/walkman of the 80/90's, it applies to the iPod of today.

Sony's PS3 will be successful for two main reasons:

Brand name. Sony and Playstation is synomous to many people with "console gaming", similar to iPod being the definite choice for MP3 players despite there being much cheaper offerings.

Secondly, the majority of gamers are notpoor fifteen, sixteen, or seventeen year olds. Most are well off enough to afford the standard 500 dollar package. Those who have HDTV sets and all the connectivity can afford 600 dollars anyways, so the price is no issue to them

Will this mean they will buy a ps3 over a 360? Probably not, but there's a good chance they will, simply because of brand recognizability.

it's a marketing ploy...

By MDme on 5/15/2006 6:39:27 PM , Rating: 2

Sony obviously did this to offset the clever marketing attempt of microsoft. After all, the 2 consoles for 1 deal with the 360 + wii really sounds like a good combo. With it you get a high-power next gen system with good graphics (360) and an innovative, fun to play and cheap system (wii). In addition, the Games catalog of both systems will be good especially when combined....there will be good japanese games on the wii (which the 360 may not have as much of) and games with good graphics (which the wii may not have as much of).

Sony did this to confuse the people into thinking away from the 360+wii combo.

All that MS needs to do now is to release a BD add-on for the 360 for the package to really look good. You can buy a 360+wii for <600 then choose the HD format that you want.

Perhaps...

By Trisped on 5/15/2006 7:49:00 PM , Rating: 2

Perhaps Microsoft and Sony are trying to keep money moving to Nintendo because of all the cool ideas they can steal for the next gen systems (not the ones that will all be here by Christmas, but the ones after that).

Nintendo is the innovator, it is their business model and how they have survived until now.

And if this Ever Happens

By Pete84 on 5/16/2006 6:06:32 AM , Rating: 2

. . The universe will mutate into something more bizarre and unexplicable. Or perhaps it's already happened.

Seriously though, Sony and Microsoft just agreed on something. Who else just grew wings and was make regional comandant of a Frozen Hell quadrant?

maybe i will do this

By msva124 on 5/18/2006 4:21:24 PM , Rating: 2

I may end up buying both. Playstation III so I can play Final Fantasy XIII when it comes out, and maybe the Wii because I like the controller and it's a hassle to play NES games on my pc.

More Sony coping

By chud67bc on 5/15/2006 12:22:16 PM , Rating: 1

Will the Sony ripoffs ever end?
First, they copy MS on-line, then copy some aspets of their gamepad, then copy the wii controller, now they are repeating what Peter M has just said.

They can't even have an orginal idea.